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Mozilla Aims To Release Four Firefox Versions In 2011

An anonymous reader writes "Mozilla is planning to release four new versions of its open source browser by the end of this year. That means Firefox 4, Firefox 5, Firefox 6, and Firefox 7 are all slated to ship in 2011. Mozilla was originally planning on having Firefox 4 out by the end of last year, but it had to delay the release. The last release was Beta 10 but there are still probably two more betas, at least one release candidate, and of course a final build. It's clear the company no longer thinks this model is a good one, and wants to accelerate its release cycle, much like Google did with Chrome." More detailed information on the accelerated development cycle and the major features intended for each new version are available on Mozilla's Firefox 2011 Roadmap.

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  1. Oh Great by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I always love when a browser company gives me more versions (and their individual idiosyncrasies) to test and support. At least Chrome back doors updates to their browser so anything out there should be the current version (like it or not).

  2. Magic version numbers by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Like accelerating the version number major releases suddenly makes the release cycle better. More bugs?

    1. Re:Magic version numbers by omnichad · · Score: 3, Informative

      Fewer features in each major release should mean more time spent fixing bugs. Would hope so, anyway. Firefox 4 beta 10 uses 100% of my CPU almost constantly (on Mac OS X 10.6) and I have no idea what new "feature" is responsible for this.

    2. Re:Magic version numbers by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Informative

      Like accelerating the version number major releases suddenly makes the release cycle better. More bugs?

      I don't think so, and I don't think they'll rush the features. To make that equation work, I assume each major release will be less major than before. Like with Google Chrome. Why do that? Marketing? No, I think it's to stay more current with the latest web standards. In today's web, waiting a year for each major release will lead you to hopelessly fall behind. This is the reasoning to why Google are now doing this anyway (and of course, I'm sure they don't mind catching up with IE's version numbers either).

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    3. Re:Magic version numbers by Americano · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. The change to calling each one of them "major" versions appears to be simply cosmetic - who cares what the number is, people will use the latest stable version, whichever that happens to be; if there is no stable version, they'll simply move to using Chrome or Safari.

      Basically, all Mozilla has done is said, "Everything we would have released in a big chunk next November will be delivered in 4 smaller chunks, one each quarter."

      In theory, the releases will be more tightly focused, with shorter durations, and fewer features to implement translating to more thorough bug testing and bug fixing. This is a good thing.

      In practice, as you noted... no guarantees. I expect at least 2 of them will be significantly late and / or significantly reduced in scope from their current roadmap.

    4. Re:Magic version numbers by StuartHankins · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm running Firefox 4b10 on Snow Leopard also, and other than spiking when I refresh I'm 70%+ idle. With Parallels and X11 running, I might add.

      Maybe it's one of your addons, try disabling them all and reenabling them one at a time until you find the culprit.

  3. Versions by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's clear the company no longer thinks this model is a good one, and wants to accelerate its release cycle

    It sort of sounds more like they want to remove minor version numbers, and make every update a new major version.

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    1. Re:Versions by crow · · Score: 4, Funny

      So users should respond by adding a "0." to the front of all the version numbers.

  4. That's just dumb by metrix007 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Stick with the point versions, and focus on getting 4.5 out by mid 2012.

    Releasing 4 major versions in one year is immature, and Mozilla should no better. What motivation do they have other than competing with the other browsers that have higher version numbers? Stupid.

    Hariyfeet, if you read this, I want to remind you once again that Firefox deciding not to make use of Windows Integrity Controls is not equivalent to running the browser as a root process. Sigh.

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  5. Wait, I recognize that cough... by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone has caught the chromoenza!

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  6. tl;dr from the roadmap by Warll · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a major reason why I use firefox, chrome may be open source but firefox extends that to open governance.

    1. Ship Firefox 4, 5, 6 and 7 in the 2011 calendar year
    2. Always respond to a user action within 50 ms
    3. Never lose user data or state
    4. Build Web Apps, Identity and Social into the Open Web Platform
    5. Support new operating systems and hardware
    6. Polish the user experience for common interaction tasks
    7. Plan and architect for a future of a common platform on which the desktop and mobile products will be built and run Web Apps

    I would encourage everyone to read through the full roadmap: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Roadmap you shouldn't be disapointed.

    Edit: Ugh, slashdot ol means ordered list, stop styling it like a ul.

  7. Synchronization with HTMLX by Syncerus · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mozilla should move the other direction. They should follow the W3C lead and dispense with versions altogether and simply release "Firefox" that displays "HTML".

    What could possibly go wrong?

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  8. The new Version Number War by rudy_wayne · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When Internet Explorer was at version 5, Netscape released version 6 of their browser. There never was a Netscape version 5. They jumped from v4 to v6 because they wanted to be newer than Microsoft. Apparently, Mozilla now feels they are "behind" Chrome which is currently at version 9, so instead of Firefox 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, etc., they will call them Firefox 5, 6, 11 and 23 so that they can be newer than Chrome.

    It is sad how far off the rails the Firefox development process has gone.

  9. Re:This just in: by Americano · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A version number increment is only as important as you want it to be. The difference between "3.6" and "4.0" is entirely subjective, as is the difference between "4.0" and "5.0".

    By convention, a "major" release increment signals significant changes, but what constitutes "significant"? Is expanding Windows support to 32-bit AND 64-bit versions "major"? Could be. Is implementing a new feature to support "identity," as the roadmap suggests? Could be. So is adding Windows 64-bit support worthy of a major revision number? If it is, do they have to increment again when they release "identity" support? Is one "more major" than the other?

    The answer is: who cares, really? The only thing that users really need to worry about:
    1) What version am I using presently?
    2) What is the latest stable version?
    3) What's changed between #1 and #2, and is it worth upgrading?

    Whether #1 and #2 are "3.6" and "3.9", respectively, or "4.0" and "7.0", it really doesn't matter. It's the delta, #3, that really matters - what's been added, removed, updated, fixed, and broken between the two?

  10. Re:FF4 is crap by supersloshy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, the latest nightlies have a statusbar-esque thing in the bottom left when you hover links or load a page, now. It's a bit like how Chrome does it.

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  11. Why not just... by rossdee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why not just express version numbers in binary?

    Thus version 4 would be released as version 100, and version 5 would be 101

    That should be enough for this year , and jump way ahead of the opposition.

  12. Re:Still problematic by yakatz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Firefox obviously won't install the addon if its specified "max version" is lower than the version you're using. So I have a couple of addons that I use in Firefox 4, where I've had to manually change the "max version" to FF4. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. More to the point, it's kind of annoying to deal with, and I don't expect your Average Joe user to go around editing XML files just to see if it's possible that their favorite addon works.

    That is what this extension is for: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/