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Cisco Linksys Routers Still Don't Support IPv6

Julie188 writes "It's 2011, IPv4 addresses are officially exhausted, and the world's largest router maker, Cisco, still doesn't support IPv6 in its best-selling line of Linksys wireless routers. This is true even for the new E4200 router released just last month (priced at $180). The company has promised to add IPv6 to the E4200 by the spring. But it has not been specific about if and how it will offer an IPv6 upgrade to the millions of other Linksys routers currently running in homes and small businesses."

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  1. ipv6 support on Cisco/Linksys routers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    dd-wrt FTW

    1. Re:ipv6 support on Cisco/Linksys routers by rrossman2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I second this. Plus every one I've installed DD-WRT on has ran multitudes more stable than the official firmwares have.

    2. Re:ipv6 support on Cisco/Linksys routers by jomcty · · Score: 5, Informative

      I find that TomatoUSB has the most polish of the mentioned firmwares. TomatoUSB is extremely stable, the QoS just works (tm) and IPv6 support is currently being integrated. I moved to it from dd-wrt over a year and a half ago and haven't looked back.

    3. Re:ipv6 support on Cisco/Linksys routers by hjf · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes. If you stick to the "stable" release, it's 2 years old and basically not really "stable" as it tries to be a one-size-fits-all release, usualy aimed at whatever 3 or 4 models the actual developers of the project have (thousands of people participate in forums but they are "testers").

      There's no "stable" release. There are hundreds of undocumented "builds" which fix some things and break others. I tried about 10 different versions until I found one that worked with my WRT600N and gave me 300mbps (the other ones didn't enable the 5GHz radio).

      Not only that. A buggy firmware screwed up my NVRAM and I had to take my router apart and reset it via serial port (which is fun and I enjoy doing when I have free time, just not to my main router RIGHT WHEN I NEED IT).

      For every DD-WRT release you want to try, you have to make a 30/30/30 reset (with the router ON, hold reset - 30 seconds, unplug the router, 30 seconds, plug it back in, 30 seconds, release reset). You CAN'T save the config file cause it's not compatible between different builds (did you say you didn't like reconfig?). Every tutorial out there Just Works for whoever wrote it - years ago on an unspecified build, which of course isn't the one you're running and it's not going to work with yours either.

      IPv6 is NOT supported out of the box (no, it doesn't matter if it comes built-in. The web config doesn't have a web page to set up the ipv6 stuff, and not even popular tunnel brokers, like HE and Sixxs Just Work. You have to make them work. Some things you do through web config, others through broken, ugly startup scripts.

      Don't get me wrong, I love DD-WRT. I use it, but it's not something I'd recommend to the average person. It goes way beyond "reset to factory defaults", it crosses the "keep your soldering iron ready" level.

  2. Comeon guys by Altus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Go easy on them, Cisco is such a small company and really there was no way they could have seen this coming.

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  3. Re:wow by icebike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its not like they need new hardware to achieve ipv6.

    They need only offer a firmware upgrade.

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  4. Re:Who cares? by LordNimon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Considering most OS's out there support IPv6 (Vista, 7, Linux, Mac OS X) and most have it defaulted ON out of the box, why not add the capability?

    Because it would cost Cisco money to do so, and they would get no financial benefit out of it. Those routers were never advertised with IPv6 support, so why should they be upgraded for free?

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  5. Irresponsible. by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is really irresponsible on Cisco's part. I don't care about their monetary considerations, adding IPv6 support into their Linux derived routers wouldn't have been all that hard or costly for them.

    Their refusal to enable IPv6 support is having a bad effect on IPv6 adoption. I don't think most people realise how bad IPv4 exhaustion can be. IPv4 exhaustion puts a cap on internet growth, which in turn retards economic growth.

    Seriously Cisco, fuck you, just fuck you.

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  6. Re:Who cares? by shish · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cheap gadgets not being future-proof I can understand, but this is a $180 gadget not being 10-years-ago-proof...

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  7. Re:wow by sexconker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yet another reason I'm glad I've always recommended against Linksys to friends and family. Shoddy equipment in the past, and no preparation for the future now.

    No preparation for the future now, but they'll be prepared for now in the future.
    Then they'll send that preparation back in time and everything will be hunky-dory.

    Haven't you seen the pointless brand awareness ads that CISCO runs, showing a classroom in China and one in the US teleconferencing?
    Or the giant out-side displays on opposite sides of the planet?

    Clearly these ads demonstrate CISCO's mastery of all things time and space. Not only is there 0 latency, the fucking sun is high in the sky in both places at the same fucking time. I wrote a detailed email to every public email address I could find for CISCO, but I only got one drone response. The drone asked me to clarify my concerns, to which I replied "YOUR FUCKING ADVERTISEMENTS SHOW A DISTURBING DISREGARD FOR THE FUNDAMENTAL LAWS OF PHYSICS". Still waiting for a response.

  8. Re:Who cares? by camperdave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When did people develop this sense of entitlement that every little cheap-ass consumer product they buy ought to be future-proof?

    IPv6 has been out a lot longer than my router. It's not about being future-proof. It's about being present-proof.

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  9. Re:wow by Cylix · · Score: 4, Funny

    It was one of the original routers from 203AD. (well 203ADish).

    Because at the time there was not nearly a large enough base for IP based data transmissions they relied more heavily on humans. This router utilizes various symbols that were popular among the time to indicate direction. With a bit of a wheel you can turn the directions to various paths and thereby facilitate the routing of information or rather people.

    All in all, it is more like a road sign which can be shifted this way or that.

    To answer the question, I'm afraid there is no update to this model because at the time of it's conception there was no implementation of IPV6 or IPV4.

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  10. WNR1000 ipV6 support hard to find by jcaplan · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was surprised that TFA stated that the Netgear WNR1000 supported IPv6 since I keep my firmware up to date and have not noticed support. Turns out that the version with IPv6 support, 1.1.2.28, does not appear in the router firmware update page but can be found in the knowledge base at: http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/18631/kw/ipv6%20wnr1000
    It is a new update as of Feb 3, 2011 and its listed as being for the WNR1000v2 - no mention of the more recent v3. IPv6 compatibility is not mentioned on the product page or the spec sheet.

  11. Too funny... by CAIMLAS · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is too funny: you realize this is Cisco we're talking about here, right? The company that still requires obscene steps and wads of cash to get security updates for a paid-for product?

    I don't mean to flamebait, but seriously. Cisco is one of the most frustrating (large) companies to deal with in this regard. Smaller companies try to do the same things, but ultimately those behaviors turn people off their products. Why is Cisco still bannered about as the end-all, be-all for networking equipment, given that:

    * feature for feature, their switches are inferior in many ways to their competetors
    * Cisco products have less fabric provisioning than, say, HP switches, which cost a fraction as much (off the top of my head, 30% less fabric at 4x the cost)
    * Less usability built into the devices themselves (limited interface feature set). This applies to the 'home' routers, too: the Buffalo home routers are comparable to the Linksys (in some cases, 'identical'), cost less, and have better firmware. And lately, the radios have been better, too (for wireless).
    * Getting upgrades for an old Cisco is difficult and costly. "Old" usually means "not a couple years new and doesn't have a current service contract".

    I mean, seriously: it still costs how much for a Cisco PIX 50x? We're not even talking about something recent; 501s still sell, new, for over $150. It's no small wonder that small businesses buy things like Sonicwall devices given the alternative in 'name brand networking equipment'.

    You can argue that it's worth the money due to comprehensive support, lifetime this or that, or what have you. For most people, upon careful examination, the truth is that Cisco isn't a good value decision.

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  12. Re:Who cares? by mysidia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When did people develop this sense of entitlement that every little cheap-ass consumer product they buy ought to be future-proof?

    We're not talking future-proof here. IPv6 is here, now, and yesterday.

    Usually consumers have a reasonable expectation their product be present-proof. If it claims to be a router, it should meet current versions of the internet standards, in regards to node requirements for routers.