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Italian Police Seize Blog Over 'Kill Berlusconi' Satire

Giorgio Maone writes "Italian Police just seized the Savona e Ponente Blog because the 60-year-old journalist Valeria Rossi posted a satirical article titled 'I want to kill Berlusconi,' writing that 'you can't feel guilty of wishing him death, because he's not human: he's an alien, with incredible psychic powers.' Otherwise, how could such a clown, with multiple pending trials for corruption, tax offenses, abuse of power and even child prostitution, convince the majority of the other politicians and a consistent slice of Italian people to keep him as their prime minister for almost 20 years now? Here's a mirror of the incriminating text (Italian)." And here's a translation to English.

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  1. Re:What keeps him in power for 2 decades? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On the other hand, Roman emperors also had the habit of occasionally getting things done in grand style. That is what I find most baffling about Berlusconi's endurance: Not only is the guy a grossly corrupt sleazeball plutocrat, he hasn't achieved particularly thrilling results in economic, law-and-order, or quality of life metrics.

    He's like the decadent and incompetent version of Putin.

  2. Re:Alternative? by Aldenissin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Would YOU want to run against him? If you were to, remember, if something happened to you he'd automatically win...

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    Like a city whose walls are broken down is a man who lacks self-control.
  3. Re:Is the US any better? by durrr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your comment will lead to some militrary contractor getting the opportunity to sell gigantic fans for $500 million each to the white house. within two weeks you'll notice that the flags around the white house will always point in a offset from the actual wind direction.

  4. Re:What keeps him in power for 2 decades? by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He owns the media in Italy.

  5. well.. by EasyTarget · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What keeps him in power so long? You mean apart from owning the press, subverting due process and being beloved by the police?

    The funny thing is that put that way; he sounds just like most of our beloved leaders.

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    "Oops, I always forget the purpose of competition is to divide people into winners and losers." - Hobbes
  6. Re:Double dumbass on you by Jahava · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I see this a lot in politics these days: educated, intelligent journalists lashing out and saying anyone who doesn't agree with their political opinions must not be a member of the human race. And here's one who thinks that it's OK to call for deaths just because she's frustrated.

    There's a critical difference between a satirical call for death and an actual death threat. Death itself is a powerful subject, and it can be used quite aptly to evoke far more sentiment than straight murderous rampage. In this case, she wasn't stating her intent to kill Berlusconi, nor was she attempting to rally others to do the same. Rather, she was expressing her rage and frustration at him, which is well within (at least American) bounds of free speech.

    This seizure wasn't made out of fear and concern for Berlusconi's wellbeing. This is textbook abuse of law for the purpose of silencing opposition.

    America has the same thing, Sarah Palin's calls for violence incited her followers and real people died.

    This is a really stupid example. Maybe read a little into things before echoing the political impulse. As outrageous and annoying as Palin is, there is no good reason to suspect she had anything to do with the shootings.

  7. It's a strange situation by The+Second+Horseman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To an outside observer, it seems that Berlusconi has stayed in politics for one primary reason - to make sure that he can keep changing laws every time there's an attempt to prosecute him for some misdeed. With that tactic, he's rendered the judiciary largely irrelevant. He owns a vast media empire, and hasn't been forced to keep his media holdings at arm's length while in office, so he's used that to prop up his political empire. The Italian Parliament doesn't seem to be able to deal with the issue. The disconnect between those in power and a good chunk of the population is very high, according to some recent news reports.

    Given his personal behavior, you have to wonder just how corrupt his government actually is, and who may have been in a position to blackmail him for favors over the last twenty years. If he'd managed to avoid sexual misconduct that seemed deplorable to his core supporters, he wouldn't be in trouble now.

    If Italy was in another part of the world, there would probably be a lot of questions about how democratic it actually is.

  8. Re:Double dumbass on you by marcello_dl · · Score: 4, Informative

    > saying anyone who doesn't agree with their political opinions must not be a member of the human race

    Lemme translate some famous pearls of S. Berlusconi
    "Judges are mentally ill and antropologically different from the rest of human race"
    About his opposition: "I can't believe there are so many dumbasses ('coglioni') that vote against their interests"

    So, police, go seize his TV stations.

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  9. Re:Is the US any better? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Funny

    Perhaps we build this large, wooden Badger...

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    "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
    Never been known to fail..."
  10. Re:OK boys by Johann+Lau · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I was asked to make this address I wondered what I had to say to you boys who are graduating. And I think I have one thing to say. If you wish to be useful, never take a course that will silence you. Refuse to learn anything that implies collusion, whether it be a clerkship or a curacy, a legal fee or a post in a university. Retain the power of speech no matter what other power you may lose. If you can take this course, and in so far as you take it, you will bless this country. In so far as you depart from this course, you become dampers, mutes, and hooded executioners.

    As a practical matter, a mere failure to speak out upon occassions where no statement is asked or expect from you, and when the utterance of an uncalled for suspicion is odious, will often hold you to a concurrence in palpable iniquity. Try to raise a voice that will be heard from here to Albany and watch what comes forward to shut off the sound. It is not a German sergeant, nor a Russian officer of the precinct. It is a note from a friend of your father's, offering you a place at his office. This is your warning from the secret police. Why, if you any of young gentleman have a mind to make himself heard a mile off, you must make a bonfire of your reputations, and a close enemy of most men who would wish you well.

    I have seen ten years of young men who rush out into the world with their messages, and when they find how deaf the world is, they think they must save their strength and wait. They believe that after a while they will be able to get up on some little eminence from which they can make themselves heard. "In a few years," reasons one of them, "I shall have gained a standing, and then I shall use my powers for good." Next year comes and with it a strange discovery. The man has lost his horizon of thought, his ambition has evaporated; he has nothing to say. I give you this one rule of conduct. Do what you will, but speak out always. Be shunned, be hated, be ridiculed, be scared, be in doubt, but don't be gagged. The time of trial is always. Now is the appointed time.

    -- John J. Chapman, Commencement Address to the Graduating Class of Hobart College, 1900

  11. Re:In his favor by ComfortablyAmbiguous · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, the memories. I always believed that Bill should have been impeached, not for the silly 'crimes' he was accused of, but for a serious violation of aesthetics. Gees, he was the President, couldn't he do better than that? It reflected poorly on the whole country.

  12. Re:Is the US any better? by Khyber · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Did you know it is illegal to say: "I wish President Obama was killed by mortar fire on the White House. It could be set up across the park and use the flag on said White House to provide a rough wind measurement.""

    BZZT! Wrong! I've had several talks with the SS, in person, regarding a phone call I had with someone stating similar things.

    It is not illegal until you say "I plan to" or "I am going to."

    Saying "I wish" is an opinion and is protected speech.

    The whole thing revolves around INTENT. Wishing is not the same as saying you'll do it.

    This has been a PSA from someone that has dealt with the Secret Service on multiple occasions - in fact some of my own ./ postings have made the SS come to my house.

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    Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
  13. Re:Alternative? by Caraig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Burlusconi has been Prime Minister of Italy for a long time now, in part by owning most of the media -- he started with a radio station and a newspaper in the south, and pretty much came to control everything. When he wanted the job of PM, guess who every newspaper endorsed for the job? He's basically the William Randolph Hearst of Italy, except Hearst never managed to hold an office.

    Burlusconi is in it only for the power and will stomp on anyone to get his way. In a way, though, this is extremely instructive: This is what happens when you allow one person or a handful of people unrestricted control of the media.

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    "I am an Adept of Tantric VAX."