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How Your Username May Betray You

An anonymous reader writes "By creating a distinctive username—and reusing it on multiple websites—you may be giving online marketers and scammers a simple way to track you. Four researchers from the French National Institute of Computer Science (INRIA) studied over 10 million usernames—collected from public Google profiles, eBay accounts, and several other sources. They found that about half of the usernames used on one site could be linked to another online profile, potentially allowing marketers and scammers to build a more complex picture the users."

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  1. Uh... by Anrego · · Score: 4, Informative

    Couldn't they already do this with cookies?

    In other news.. the gentleman wielding the running chainsaw could probably kick you really hard with those steel toe bootsand maybe even poke you in the eye!

    1. Re:Uh... by Canazza · · Score: 2

      yes, but for those who activley disable cookies, this is potentially another way of tracking that few people would have thought about.

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    2. Re:Uh... by arth1 · · Score: 2

      Also, those who use one service from one machine, and a different service from a different machine, in which case cookies won't track you.

    3. Re:Uh... by by+(1706743) · · Score: 3, Informative

      There was an article on Slashdot a while back about a clever project to track your browser regardless of cookie settings / IP address. Neat stuff.

    4. Re:Uh... by Desler · · Score: 3, Informative

      this is potentially another way of tracking that few people would have thought about.

      Sure, if you're braindead. Did you really think that if you use a non-unique identifier across multiple sites that it couldn't be used to track you? That's about as 'duh' as it gets.

    5. Re:Uh... by drb226 · · Score: 2

      Can, for example, Slashdot see that I've been visiting eBay?

      If it couldn't before, it can now >xD

    6. Re:Uh... by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed at the histrionics here too. I'm not l33t enough to triple-route honeypot links shielded by a clandestine shadow router batched through a clandestine ISP installed behind the volcano damaged area of Monserrat and hooked through 7 false-positive generating mirrored proxies. (Your pointy headed bs may vary.) So I settled for a simple two level shield enough to stop the worst spam which has worked well enough for 7 years.

      But having a single net identity also lets fans follow my "net brand" across services. For the next x years that's more valuable than the farther-back risk of ad tracking. I am pretty tame. I garner I have under ten rated-R posts across a thousand on the brand.

      But 12-ish years from now (+/- 3 or something) we'll all be at Minority Report anyway and once that level kicks in you'll never get rid of it.

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    7. Re:Uh... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      slashdot could see if you were visiting ebay by exploiting the browser a bit -- they could make an invisible link to ebay, then pass back which color your browser made it. red link means you were there before. i dunno if they fixed this somehow, yet.

      Okay... Leaving browser exploits out of it for the moment, though, isn't cookie access restricted to the domain that set it?

      I mean, the whole point of the story is that people use the same username all over the place. This makes them trackable without any sort of exploit, and not in a way that has anything to do with cookies.

      Now, if that's just pointless fearmongering, well I understand that. But I did, however, stop using my more identifiable nickname on Slashdot because I didn't want my professional colleagues finding my petty (yet epic) squabbles here on Slashdot. Seems to me that there is some wisdom in the idea of using different names on different sites.

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    8. Re:Uh... by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes.

      Now, I have different usernames for a lot of different websites and IRL I don't have a beard. (I shaved it off in 2004.)

      I was looking for a yoga mat; the "community" ones at the gym were a little more... used that I preferred for an item that I touch with my face. I am using IE7 since that's what corporate IT imposes. I was getting ads on /. for yoga classes and cheap yoga equipment. I volunteer at the YMCA and look up the schedule so I know what classes are on on a given day. I got ads for meeting "fitness singles".

      I also, due to my work, look up a lot of military things. I was getting ads for martial arts training and "how to handle a handgun" and other things like that.

      Apparently the ads computers think that yoga + military + YMCA = gay. I was getting ads for "meet local singles" with pictures of men. It was really weird until I realized that the ad servers think that I'm a fan of sausage. Or maybe they think I'm a woman; I look up vegan and vegetarian recipes and I'll look at knitting patterns to give my wife feedback. Oh, yeah, that makes more sense. They think I'm a woman.

      (An ugly one...)

      I've also got a quirk whereby the computers at work all go through the servers back east, so it also thinks that I live on the West Coast but work on the East coast; a 7000 mile trip can be covered in 30 minutes with ease.

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    9. Re:Uh... by treeves · · Score: 2

      No, no. From "time-" to "-time". Not a big change, but maybe enough to throw off the trackers.

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  2. Pretty sure by by+(1706743) · · Score: 4, Funny

    that my username won't betray me...

    1. Re:Pretty sure by Abstrackt · · Score: 4, Funny

      My username on every other site is hunter2, so it just comes up as asterisks anyway.

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    2. Re:Pretty sure by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Funny

      What a coincidence -- that's the combination on my luggage!

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  3. Slow news day much? by Toksyuryel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought this was the whole point of using a unique username. If I didn't want a unique identity, I wouldn't have created one for myself.

  4. No Shit by lordandmaker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, that's almost precisely why I've the same username all over place (amusingly, almost except /.) - so that people who know me on one might recognise me on another.

    I'd imagine that anyone with a desire to not let anyone know where else they go on the net already gets all their usernames out of pwgen or something.

  5. Who cares? by Berkyjay · · Score: 2

    I mean, we have to accept at some point that we are all in a public place. I for one don't want to have to live life online like a fugitive. Constantly changing my identity and browsing habits just to throw off marketers. And if you are smart you can easily avoid scammers by being more vigilant with your important information.

    1. Re:Who cares? by sulfur · · Score: 2

      I also don't bother hiding my real identity online; anyone with enough time on their hands and nothing better to do could correlate my accounts across different sites. It's much easier to assume that everything that you post online can be linked to you (similar to an assumption that everything you post on facebook is public). Just don't post anything that you don't want your boss to know, and you'll be fine. Maybe there will be fewer trolls on the Internet this way. Now, of course it is important to be able to post anonymously once in a while, but it shouldn't be a habit.

    2. Re:Who cares? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Constantly changing my identity and browsing habits just to throw off marketers.

      Marketers are the least of our worries. The problems come from those who would use the marketers' databases for purposes other than marketing. Things like blackmail - such as a "straight" married politician who frequents a lot of gay websites. Or barratry (which is generally not illegal) such as Sony trying to subpoena youtube's records of everybody who has viewed a video on how to crack the PS3. Or the police state gone awry where they use the data from those gps services that record your position to back-fit cases to people who have done nothing more suspicious than be within a few blocks of a crime.

      The list of potential abuses of this sort of information is practically infinite - you may never be personally bothered by it, but then again relatively few people are ever assaulted or robbed or had their car stolen, but we still take precautions against all of those too.

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  6. Do you really want to track by Ranger · · Score: 4, Funny

    someone down named Analintruder?

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    1. Re:Do you really want to track by Abstrackt · · Score: 4, Funny

      It shouldn't be that difficult. How many Analin Truders could there possibly be?

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  7. No problem by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    As long as they can't link my username to my real name, I don't care. They can collect information about "some dude who goes by GameboyRMH" all they like.

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    1. Re:No problem by georgesdev · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How about: they start creating a fake account with your user name on facebook, become friend with some of your linkedin contacts, post on your new friends walls a scam using distorted extracts of what you posted on slashdot. Ok, you did a decent job of hiding your true name with that GameboyRMH ID, but still, if you use the same ID on lots of sites, you're still vulnerable to the kind of scenario I mention above. Personally, any online account that is indexed by search engines, I use a fake ID, and move to another one every 2 years, and it's not the same as my email address, etc ...

  8. Ummm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hey slashdot, why don't you be ahead of the curve on this and let posters change their username associated with their comments once every few years. Also, being able to delete an occasional comment would be thoughtful too. It's not 1995 anymore on both accounts.

    1. Re:Ummm by martin-boundary · · Score: 2
      Actually deleting comments is a bad idea, because it destroys the meaning of threads, ie the replies that follow a deleted comment don't make sense.

      However, a good way of allowing users to "delete" their past comments would be to convert them to being anonymous. Of course that's far from foolproof, but it can be surprisingly effective for preventing casual searching by others.

  9. Oh, and then there are the cookies by Palestrina · · Score: 5, Informative

    And the installed fonts, and the screen resolution and color depth and the dozens of other factors that combined allow you to be tracked.

    Try this web site for an idea of how these factors can (in combination) uniquely identify you:

    https://panopticlick.eff.org/

    I see that my browser is unique among the 1.4 million tested, with 20 bits of identifying information. Knowing my user name isn't going to compromise my privacy all that much more, especially compared to how Facebook screws your privacy every day.

    1. Re:Oh, and then there are the cookies by wiredlogic · · Score: 2

      Fortunately NoScript protects me from those scumbags at eff.org.

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  10. Re:That's just what I want them to think by tudsworth · · Score: 2

    Or you don't see the advertisements in the first place because you use a proper browser with decent advertisement blocking. Either way, in this day and age, you can avoid pretty much every scam or advertisement with a little bit of common sense.

  11. . . . common sensical, it seems to me. by Ethereal.Visage · · Score: 3, Informative

    Umm . . . obvious, per chance? It seems to me that this is sort of . . . common sensical. Many people (myself included among that set) use a common username across multiple sites for that very reason mentioned in the article. To enable others to track us via our username. Of course, the intended audience is not the scammers -- oh, sorry, "marketers" -- but rather fellow hackers. But it's a double-edged sword. Perform an action, and the consequences will arrive, knocking on the door in the middle of the night. Welcome to the world, people.

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  12. Strong Usernames should - by genghisjahn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Be at least 8 characters long. Have at least one upper and one lower case letter, a number, a symbol and an RGB code for your favorite color. Oh and change it every 6 months too.

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  13. Re:That's just what I want them to think by mangu · · Score: 2

    And when they find me, how will I resist their clever and informative advertising?
    I'm sure there must be plenty of marketeers scratching their heads trying to understand what's this "Anonymous Coward" guy's preferences.

  14. Are we still beatin' that horse? by Ray · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Give it up. Privacy is gone.

  15. Identifiers may be used to identify you! by kwerle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Could we just move tautologies to idle? Or maybe we need a /. section called duh...

    1. Re:Identifiers may be used to identify you! by sconeu · · Score: 2

      No, you have to be a member of Tautology Club to do that.

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  16. I use unique usernames for background checks... by kamelkev · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I work for a growing software company and I have basically used this technique for doing basic background checks on job applicants.

    Back in about 2006 we had someone apply who had a distinctive username that returned a handful of results via a careful google search. Almost all of them were to "alt.drugs.bongmaking" or something similar.

    I didn't care whether the guy/girl had used drugs, but about the complete lack of discretion in the posts. He had actually used his full name and detailed personal information that positively identified him as our applicant. Really sad, and not the only time something like that has happened.

    1. Re:I use unique usernames for background checks... by radtea · · Score: 2

      That is why I rarely use my real name on the Internet

      Unfortunately there are a half a dozen other people using your real name. Better hope none of them is into stuff your prospective employers or whatever don't like!

      My last name is unexceptionable but not common and there are at least one or two people I can find on google with exact matches, including middle name. One of them is even in a vaguely-related technical field, albeit in a different country. A sufficiently lazy search--and really, what other kind is there likely to be, what with automated processing of results and all--could easily conflate us.

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    2. Re:I use unique usernames for background checks... by PitaBred · · Score: 2

      Sounds like the lesson should be that companies are overzealous in their "no drugs" stance. Because all they're ending up doing is only hiring the people that are better at hiding it and really... do you want to only hire the people that are good at hiding their discretions? Think that'll never end up biting you?

  17. If you don't want your actions tracked... by gstrickler · · Score: 2

    ...don't get online. Don't post more info about yourself than you want to have distributed. Don't assume your username or password gives you any anonymity. If you're concerned about tracking, use a password manager and use a unique username/password for every site. If you're not that concerned, use 3-5 different user names with different passwords, they may be able to link some of your info, but not all of it.

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  18. I'm not sure that's what 'Betray' means. by Minwee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You see, that's really THE WHOLE POINT of using the same username in multiple venues. In fact, it's the whole point of having a publicly visible username at all.

    It's there to promote continuity between your various posts. It builds a "brand identity", if that's a phrase that you can use without wanting to punch yourself. If that wasn't what you were trying to do then you shouldn't have registered a user name in the first place.

  19. DUH by jdharm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Its called 'online presence' and it kind of the point isn't it?

  20. Easily avoidable by Virtex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This kind of tracking is easy to avoid. Just do like me and never post on discussion forums like this one.

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  21. Re:Why would you care about marketers tracking you by 0123456 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    why would anyone wish to hide what brand of jeans they like to wear?

    Because it's none of their business?

    I for one would very much prefer that marketers and ad networks had a good picture of my product preferences so that instead of ads for mortgage refinancing and painfully unfunny t-shirts, I would get advertisements for things that I might actually be interested in.

    There are ads on the Internet?

  22. Re:So let them....! by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

    Don't look now but you just admitted to being a VB programmer on /.

    Prepare yourself for heaps of abuse.

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  23. I'm pretty much pwned already.. big woop by rickb928 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Trying to hide from the marketers is almost a Hobson's choice. If I want to obscure my identity, I must:

    - Use multiple identities. Complexity and failure due to other means of tracking me make this fairly pointless.

    - Stop using cloud-based services. There goes Gmail and a bunch of other stuff. So I should be running my own webmail gizmo?

    - Opt-out of all marketing opportunities. Sure, and opting out is actually respected by how many? ESPN keeps turning video autoplay back on when I go there, as if they are going to respect my opting out of newsletters, sharing with other entities that have 'items of interest' to me.

    - Unsubscribe from services when I'm done with the business at hand. And re-enroll two weeks later. Nice, I get to play whack-a-userID as much as I do the thing I actually wanted to do.

    So I don't bother. I'm fairly immune to the sidebar ads I get, I never respond to spam ads, and I am now tending to avoid retailers that obviously use deceptive means to target me. Screw 'em.

    As an example of hilarity; I looked into getting a used shipping container a few months ago to use for storage. Turns out even old beatup ones are pretty expensive. For weeks after that, I would see sidebar ads for shipping containers 'everywhere'. Even today I coudl get one if I go to the 'wrong' site. I was never seriously in the market for containers, but it's a competitive market, and they are persistent.

    Another example; I made the rare mistake of going to a buy.com (or was it nextag.com?) link for an item. Aw, crap. Now I get those ads all the time. But I recognize them schlepping me ads for 'djebme strap' and ignore them.

    A final example; How often have I actually clicked a link to nextag.com to look for something specific, as a last resort, and find that they actually don't have ANY sources, but 'check back real soon'! Argh. And you can be sure I'll be peppered with ads for that item for a while. Grrr.

    It's a lot like old fashioned junk mail, except I don't even need to carry it to the dumpster. It could be worse.

    And it probably is. My only fear is that I will eventually get categorized, and red-lined so that I never see ads for what I actually want, but I see ads that are shoveling me something I don't want, but 'they' are trying to steer me to. This is entirely illegal in financing, but not quite yet in retailing. We'll see if it should be or not.

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    1. Re:I'm pretty much pwned already.. big woop by TheReaperD · · Score: 2

      See, I'm the kind of person marketers hate. I never click on any ads... ever. If I see something I want, I manually go to the web site and look it up, bypassing the ad entirely.

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  24. Re:Reverse Identity Problem by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 2

    Sure, if some jerk has it out for you and you get stuck in one of these nets you'll never escape.

    Big Picture, we're thrashing through a ton of social change with this here Net thingie.

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  25. Wow, just like real life by howardd21 · · Score: 2

    So my online user name may identify in multiple places just like my real name allows people to know who I am? Who would have imagined that?

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  26. Good luck with that! by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

    I use Yvan256 for Slashdot, Yvan257 for Twitter, Yvan258 for Facebook, etc. No criminal mastermind could ever crack my username pattern!

  27. Re:That's why I always use by John+Hasler · · Score: 2

    Exactly the same as it putting out 'MaskedS'. Or '1234567'. Or 'b5c2502'.

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  28. Real Men Browse The Internets by joeszilagyi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A Real Man who wants to visit websites will load each site in a separate browser instance with a unique agent string and a different browser vendor and build each time with all cookies and scripts (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 87th party, etc.) hard-blocked, and only from within a series of totally unique VM environments of no less than Windows XP (Home and Pro), Vista (all 4,556 varieties), Win 7 (all varieties) and no less than 1,396 versions and flavors of Linux or Unix derived operating systems, and each randomly selected for each site visit, which are only done from a Tor onion connection running inside of the VM, which is in turn routed through a Tor onion connection running from the top-level main desktop that you're doing all this from, and each VM is promptly rolled back to pre-website status after your visit is done--and that's for EVERY SINGLE VISIT. ANYTHING LESS THAN THIS LETS THE INTERNET RAYS PENETRATE YOUR TINFOIL THINKING CAP.

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  29. Go ahead and track by MoeDumb · · Score: 2

    So what if spammers track and profile me? I'm not buying their erection pills anyway.

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  30. neminem by neminem · · Score: 2

    I'm neminem here, there and everywhere (unless that name contains capitalization in a location where capitalization isn't forced, in which case I'm not. I'm not, for instance, NemineM.) Marketers: go ahead and do what you like, I'm ignoring you anyway. Why should I care?