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London Stock Exchange Finishes Switch To Linux

DMandPenfold writes "The London Stock Exchange has successfully set into live trading a new matching engine based on Novell SUSE Linux technology, following successful last-step setup procedures on Saturday. The move has been billed as one of the LSE's most significant technological developments since the increasing prevalence of electronic trading led to the closure of the traditional exchange floor in 1986. LSE chief executive Xavier Rolet has insisted that the exchange, once a monopoly, will deliver record speed and stable trading in order to fight back against the fast erosion of its dominant marketshare by specialist electronic rivals."

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  1. Should it be...? by c0lo · · Score: 2

    based on Novell SUSE Linux technology

    Should it be Attachmate (err... Microsoft...?) Linux Technology already?

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    1. Re:Should it be...? by nicholas22 · · Score: 2

      First of all, the link you provided leads to an opinion article. 'Nuff said.

      Even if Microsoft bought some rights from Novell via the Attachmate deal, the current stack is *not* Microsoft tech. The Accenture/MS solution (TradElec) was binned as it was problematic, it crashed for a whole day and it never reached its performance targets (using Server 2003 and SQL 2000). The CEO who had brought it in was apparently fired.

  2. London Linux by RooftopActivity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean the prompt will be a GBP (£) sign instead of a dollar ($) ?

    1. Re:London Linux by ggeens · · Score: 5, Funny

      Does this mean the prompt will be a GBP (£) sign instead of a dollar ($) ?

      No, but the root prompt will be £ instead of #.

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    2. Re:London Linux by nOw2 · · Score: 2

      Ha, talk about mental gears clicking into place. I'd grown so use to seeing the dollar sign as a prompt I'd completely separated it from the currency in my mind, as if there were two different symbols.

    3. Re:London Linux by mehemiah · · Score: 2

      I WANT that prompt ... I'm doing it.

    4. Re:London Linux by Linker3000 · · Score: 2

      Money is the root.....

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  3. the problem is algorithmic trading... by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the exchange, once a monopoly, will deliver record speed and stable trading in order to fight back against the fast erosion of its dominant marketshare by specialist electronic rivals

    The issue facing markets isn't that. It's algorithmic trading:

    https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Algorithmic_trading#Issues_and_developments

    https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/2010_Flash_Crash

    1. Re:the problem is algorithmic trading... by beelsebob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What makes you think there needs to be exactly 1 problem?

    2. Re:the problem is algorithmic trading... by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Funny

      The is only one problem: entropy, leading to the eventual heat death of the universe.

    3. Re:the problem is algorithmic trading... by dintech · · Score: 2

      The issue facing markets isn't that. It's algorithmic trading

      You couldn't be more wrong. The absolutely opposite is true. Algorithmic trading is exactly what the exchanges want and here's why:

      Increased trading means increased fees. Exchanges charge a fee for each and every order. MTFs such as Chi-X and Turquoise grabbed market share by having a clever pricing structure based on whether your order is sitting on the order book and filled (passive) or your order is immediately filled against something already at the top of the order book (aggresive). The MTFs actually reimbursed fees if you are passive and charged you less that the LSE in any case for being aggressive. This attracted huge amounts of liquidity from the primaries and encouraged market making behaviour. Throw in that they often had better technology since it was all brand new. This was all circa 2007.

      For some reason, whenever a subject about trading comes up on Slashdot, some of you love to find a way to fit in some algo bashing. Likely the same people that mindlessly bash Obama irrespective of the topic. Wouldn't you be happier over at 911truth?

    4. Re:the problem is algorithmic trading... by jo_ham · · Score: 2

      Dick Clark has been complaining about it since the original new year's eve.

  4. Impending Merger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    This likely means that the Toronto Stock exchange will soon be using Linux as well, if they aren't already.

    1. Re:Impending Merger by dolmen.fr · · Score: 3, Informative

      The trading engine of the Paris stock exchange (previously Euronext, now NYSE-Euronext) is already on Red Hat Linux since 2006.

  5. YES!!!! :) by youn · · Score: 2

    I know it's not my most sophisticated comment, but I like open source so I am happy :)

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    1. Re:YES!!!! :) by DrXym · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I didn't say cobble together. What I meant is Linux runs on big iron, it runs on PC architectures, it runs on racks. Multiple architectures, multiple roles, same OS. It makes it easier to put the system together when everything is running the same OS. I imagine that a system like a stock exchange would have embedded systems with honking amounts of memory for low latency streaming / quotes and large mainframe backends for recording trades. All tied together with the fastest network / backbone you could lay your hands on.

      My understanding is the previous system was .NET over windows which raises large question marks over performance (e.g. unexpected garbage collections) and the sort of hardware that it could be run on.

  6. ACN FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And so ends one more of an increasingly long line of Accenture / MSFT snafus.

    1. Re:ACN FTW by mangu · · Score: 2

      And so ends one more of an increasingly long line of Accenture / MSFT snafus.

      At $40 million / snafu they couldn't care less. Now let's see the people at LSE who proposed the Accenture / MSFT solution. Will they be fired? Will the $40 million be discounted from their bonuses? I doubt it. Because they are probably working at another victim by now. Where will the next snafu be? Stay tuned.

    2. Re:ACN FTW by nicholas22 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The CEO who brought in the TradElec joint Accenture / Microsoft solution has been fired. As for the TradElec platform itself, it was binned. The main rival of TradElec was selected. I'd call this a major SNAFU. Where are the self-indulgent comments from MCSEs that 'choosing Microsoft never got anyone fired' now?

  7. Re:Novell? by miffo.swe · · Score: 2

    Novell SUSE Linux is pretty good as long as you think before you do stuff. Its easier to get into dependency hell than with RedHat or Debian/Ubuntu but other than that its very stable and nice. Personally i prefer Debian but i do manage a couple of SUSE machines taking serious loads day and night on a slew of different serivces and they have been working flawlessly without any problems at all.

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  8. Re:Even Higher Speed! by JanneM · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because clearly, ever more HFT is exactly what everyone needs!

    If you are an automated trader then you do need any speed you can get. If you aren't - well, you probably don't have any business being on the stock exchange any more. A bit more or less speed is not going to make any difference; you're hopelessly outgunned either way.

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  9. Re:Even Higher Speed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe I'm not cynical enough, but all the low-latency trading and algorithmic competition in the world isn't really going to change the fact that I can sit here with delayed stock quotes, look at a company's financial statements, look at the company's P/E ratio and potential for growth and put a bid in at a price of my choosing.

  10. one problem by louic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is exactly one problem: greedy people

    1. Re:one problem by InterGuru · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Blaming an economic collapses on greed is like blaming a bridge collapse on gravity. Both are always there, you design your system around them.

    2. Re:one problem by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Blaming an economic collapses on greed is like blaming a bridge collapse on gravity. Both are always there, you design your system around them.

      Yes, and part of your system is not to encourage the greediest fuckers so much, and certainly not to let them escape oversight until it all goes tits up.

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  11. Re:Even Higher Speed! by Nursie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It sucks money out of the stock market.

    Fans of it will say it provides 'increased liquidity'.

    Me, I say, it sucks monkey out of the stock market. If it didn't the HFT people wouldn't bother doing it. The money comes from somewhere, and that somewhere is other investors. If it *doesn't* come from somewhere then creating it means there's more money and it comes from everyone via inflation.

    That's my take. May be wrong, may be dense, but that's my take. Me, I'd scale back the whole thing massively because I still haven't had anyone explain adequately to me how, after they've gone public, the company's stock market valuation matters (to the company) for anything at all, except for perhaps their ability to rack up debt.

  12. get the fact by DUdsen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wasn't this the MS get the fact showcase as to how much better ms.net and sql server were compared to linux? Before the system came crashing down and latency became an issue?

    1. Re:get the fact by David+Off · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, it was one of them. I worked on another Reuters Intelligent Advisor which ran like a 3 legged dog, a very expensive dog, until someone did the decent thing and shot it through the head.

      I don't think RIA's expensive failure can be wholly blamed on .net. I think the technical team deceived management and probably themselves about what they could do. They had drunk the SOA/Web Services kool aid and the architecture was basically wrong. I suspect a number of devs saw the project as resume keyword fodder.

    2. Re:get the fact by miffo.swe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Still, Microsoft was heavily involved on every levels of the project. If Microsoft cant make .net / MSSQL work and design it right, who can?

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  13. Re:Even Higher Speed! by micheas · · Score: 3, Informative

    "increased liquidity" has a cost.

    If you want to buy now, or sell now, instead of spending a few days shopping for a willing partner on the other side of the trade you won't get as good of a price. But you also have the reduced risk of not spending a few days trying to unload your stock.

    The one thing that you will notice is that with the high frequency traders the spread is now very small, but the volitility is much higher, so in some ways this is a reaction to discount brokerages and the decimalization of stock prices, as the fees are not in the spread but in the volatility. I don't know which is more profitable to the house, but the reduced spread and the greatly reduced commissions had to be made up for someway. Banks are more profitable now, but there are many fewer banks, so direct comparisons with thirty years ago are not possible without correcting for industry consolidation.

    An example of the cost of liquidity is that, while exchanges are liquid, someone selling five to ten percent of a company in the open market in a few minutes can easily erase more than half of the companies market capitalization. But the stock is sold and the books are closed.

    One difference between specialists and high frequency traders is that specialists have to be the buyer and seller of last resort, while HFT's have no obligation to make a losing trade.

    I have not looked at the math behind technical trading recently, but in the nineties there were several papers published that suggested that technical trends could only see about 15 minutes into the future, and the predictive value more than five minutes into the future was murky, but not useless.

    As far as your question of how a companies market capitalization matters to the company, it depends on the company. Some companies carry a large number of authorized shares on the balance sheet, but do have not issued them. The company can give bonuses as stock options which if the options are deep in the money, the investors are essentially paying a substantial percentage of employee compensation, instead of the company paying it. A high market capitalization does not guarantee that people will loan you money, but it does tend to lower your interest rate, and allow you to issue really long term debt. (Disney and Coke issued 100 year bonds, Canadian Pacific issued 1000 year bonds.) One other thing that companies can do with an over inflated market cap is buy things with the stock, see aol buying time warner as a famous example of that. I am sure that there are uses that I am forgetting at the moment. But I hope that is somewhat illuminating.

  14. Re:Even Higher Speed! by mangu · · Score: 2

    I still haven't had anyone explain adequately to me how, after they've gone public, the company's stock market valuation matters (to the company) for anything at all, except for perhaps their ability to rack up debt.

    If the company's stock is highly valued they can finance growth by selling shares. Otherwise they would have to "rack up debt" in order to grow.

  15. LSE investigating potential IT problem at close by DMandPenfold · · Score: 3, Interesting

    London Stock Exchange investigating potential system problem on closing auction http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/3261177/london-stock-exchange-investigating-potential-system-problem-on-closing-auction/ The London Stock Exchange has said it is investigating an issue on its main cash market, which yesterday implemented a new matching engine based on Linux technology. The LSE declined to give details on what had happened until the investigation was complete, and it is not known whether the new system was responsible. The system, written in C++ language on Novell SUSE Linux-based datacentres, replaced a Microsoft .Net-based system that ran on Windows Server and SQL Server.... http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/3261177/london-stock-exchange-investigating-potential-system-problem-on-closing-auction/

  16. Hope not.. by ideaz · · Score: 2

    the next thing they install is WINE.