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Kids Who Skip School Get Tracked By GPS

suraj.sun writes with this excerpt from the Orange County Register: "Frustrated by students habitually skipping class, police and the Anaheim Union High School District are turning to GPS tracking to ensure they come to class. The six-week pilot program is the first in California to test GPS. Seventh- and eighth-graders with four unexcused absences or more this school year are assigned to carry a handheld GPS device, about the size of a cell phone. Five times a day, they are required to enter a code that tracks their locations – as they leave for school, when they arrive at school, at lunchtime, when they leave school and at 8 p.m."

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  1. Great plan there by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because kids who regularly skip school can be relied upon to willingly cooperate in keeping and activating their own personal tracking device.

    1. Re:Great plan there by veganboyjosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This was my first thought as well.

      1. make friends with truants.
      2. collect their GPS devices.
      3. enter codes when called to do so.
      4. profit.

    2. Re:Great plan there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why do they have to do it at 8:00pm? That seems like a really dumb time; its none of the school's business where the student is at 8:00pm.

      Four unexcused abscences seems a bit of a low bar; I know my daughter has they many just due to custody hearings this past fall when her mom tried to get her back.

    3. Re:Great plan there by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Excuse me sir, but all the GPS hoodlums are reporting from the same location, every day!"

      "Dear god, they've formed a GANG!"

    4. Re:Great plan there by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not about learning, it's about training kids to be profitable worker bees. High attendance rates in school train them to come to work on time every day. When company's can count on 100% attendance they can hire less employees because they don't have to worry about covering shifts.

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    5. Re:Great plan there by jeffmeden · · Score: 4, Informative

      I missed 40 days of school in 8th grade (a personal high point), and I didn't get much better about it during highschool. Now I'm working on a Ph.D. in Neurobiology at a translation research and teaching hospital. I credit my not-being-at-my-public-school for the level of success I've achieved.

          As a parent, it's my business where my kid is. I'll smash that damn device and hand it back to the truant officer on my kid's behalf. Schools have become the Juvenile Executive branch of the government, and it's not their responsibility. "We'll educate you with the information we want you to know, whether you like it or not!"

      Send your kids to private school, or home school them; there is no law that says you have to send them to public school (at least in my state). There are options besides teaching them that its OK to completely disregard authority...

    6. Re:Great plan there by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds autobiographical.

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    7. Re:Great plan there by glazener · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This may well be related to a funding issue. In my state, schools receive money based on the average daily attendance, not the actual enrollment. In any case, it seems that having a draconian excused absence policy only serves to teach both parents and kids to lie effectively. My son's high school had a fairly strict excused absence policy. When one of his friends was killed in an automobile accident the school told us that if he missed school to attend the funeral, the absence would have been unexcused. I had no problem at all telling the school that he was absent due to a scheduled doctors appointment. Had the school asked for proof that he had actually seen the doctor I would have had no problem mocking of the letter on official looking stationary stating that he had been seen on that day and scrawling a doctors name at the bottom. Even if the school were inclined to verify the excuse with the doctor, medical privacy laws in general prohibit medical practitioners from disclosing information about the patient so the risk of detection would be minimal. Even if we were found out, there were essentially no negative consequences to lying to the school. There were a couple of other instances when I felt it was reasonable and proper to keep my child out of school but the school would have defined the reason as an unexcused absence. I felt no obligation to be honest with the school under the circumstances. In some ways I guess that the schools are teaching a valuable lesson. Sometimes it's just best to tell the convenient lie rather than the truth. Honesty is not always the best policy.

    8. Re:Great plan there by khallow · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Overall, the high school I recall was more burdened with bureaucracy than any corporation I've worked at since.

      They have to be in order to evade any shred of responsibility for their actions. If they didn't have rigid rules on what counted as an excused absence or not, then they might have to make a decision and that could be inconvenient or even cause them trouble.

    9. Re:Great plan there by Push+Latency · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which means they're likely skipping class to play Dungeons & Dragons!

  2. Conditioning by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All this will do is to condition these children to accept invasive tracking and surveillance. This is not a question of children's rights, it is a question of what those children will think is normal or acceptable in a decade, when they are adults.

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    1. Re:Conditioning by tophermeyer · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...so it's not a bug, it's a feature?

    2. Re:Conditioning by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're joking right? Those students who do this are already truants. They have little interest in actually responding properly to authority and I'd be absolutely and utterly shocked if, in a decade when they're adults, if they have any more respect for the laws of society.

      I am not saying it's not an invasion of privacy, it is, but those outfitted with these tracking devices aren't exactly the types you're making them out to be.

  3. Training for the future by ATMAvatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This, like so many other school programs, is an egregious violation of the students' rights. Yet, we allow it under the all to used "think of the children" guise. What it really results in is a bunch of people who are trained from childhood that violating their rights is OK if the right circumstances present themselves.

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    1. Re:Training for the future by Eevee · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From the fine article

      Students and their parents volunteer for the monitoring as a way to avoid continuation school or prosecution with a potential stay in juvenile hall.

      So this is to keep children from getting in legal problems. It's not all kids, just those at risk of getting dragged into the court system.

      Police Investigator Armando Pardo reminded parents that letting kids skip school without a valid reason is, in fact, a crime.

      The entering of the codes isn't just to verify the child has the unit, but also to assist them in planning to get to school. (8PM code entry? Reminder to get stuff ready for the next school day.) In addition, it involves coaching the children to work on their attendance habits.

      So it's voluntary, has less impact on the students than the alternatives, and is designed to work with the students to improve their performance. Yep, that sounds like a violation of their rights.

  4. Re:Big Brother by Wolvenhaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Threatening someone with jail time or fines if they don't volunteer is like saying there is a mandatory donation required to attend a free event.

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  5. 8 PM? by dragonsomnolent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    WTF? If this is about them skipping school, what does their location at 8PM have anything to do with whether or not they are at school?

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  6. GPS isn't a solution by sheehaje · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe instead of treating students like cattle, schools should become more interesting and figure out why kids are actually skipping school.

    I did all the time, until I was old enough to drop out, get a GED and head to college. I never missed classes in College because I was able to determine for myself what interested me and what goals I wanted to achieve.

    This was because I had moved into a new school district that didn't really evaluate my needs, and instead stuck be in classes that were beneath the level of work I was doing in my previous school. I went from doing algebra and trigonometry to doing long division.

    I'm sure that's not why all students skip school. I sure some are getting bullied, some are on drugs, and others are overwhelmed with their homework. Whatever the case, GPS won't solve the problems.

  7. Re:Big Brother by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Threatening someone with jail time or fines if they don't volunteer is like saying there is a mandatory donation required to attend a free event.

    They're not picking random kids off the street for this. These kids are already facing juvenile hall. They a had a choice: go to school or get in trouble. Now they have another choice: go to school and be tracked or go to juvenile hall. These kids already made the first choice so now they (and their parents) are forced to make the second choice.

    I'm not thrilled with the program - I think they should just lock the kids up in reform school/juvenile hall/whatever. They have free will and they made their choice so let them live with the consequences. Maybe they'll learn from their mistakes, or maybe not.

  8. Re:8PM? by SecurityGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A better system would probably be to call their parents every evening and ask where their kids are.

    No, it wouldn't. This parent would respond "It's 8pm in the evening, not during school hours, and it's none of your business where my children are."