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The Uncertain Future of NYC's Last Arcade

HansonMB writes "At around nearly the same time every year, rumors start to crop up that Chinatown Fair, the last beloved vestige of New York City's video arcade golden age, will soon be facing its final days. It happened again last week when tweets and blog posts reignited talk of the legendary arcade's imminent foreclosure. Without even talking to anyone, you could feel a sense of looming dread as gamers of all ages partook of their usual button-pounding pastimes. But the Fair, which has stood in one form or another on Mott Street just off Canal since the 1950s, isn't going down without a fight."

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  1. The pics make it look like a filthy shithole by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Okay well, maybe that's just par for the course in Brooklyn. But it's sad to think that this hole-in-the-wall is all that's left of the videogame arcades. Is this seriously the only one left in all of NYC? Please tell me that's just hyperbole. I thought the Japanese were still turning out popular stuff like Dance Dance Revolution for arcades. Surely someone is still buying those machines, no?

    Come to think of it, the last remaining Chuck E. Cheese's in my city is starting to look pretty run-down too. And it's not exactly located in a neighborhood you would want to take your kids through, if you could avoid it. Not that I frequent it much anymore myself--who wants to be the creepy, single, older guy hanging out in a Chuck E. Cheese's paying the last worn-out videogames?

    I guess this is how it must have felt to pool players when the pool halls went into the shitter. It's probably a good preview what the last Vegas casinos are going to look like someday too.

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    1. Re:The pics make it look like a filthy shithole by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Informative

      Okay well, maybe that's just par for the course in Brooklyn.

      It's not in Brooklyn (yet). It's in Manhattan.

      And yes, that's what many of the old arcades used to look like (well, maybe not THAT bad).

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    2. Re:The pics make it look like a filthy shithole by xaxa · · Score: 2

      I associate arcade machines with being bored. Apart from a couple of exceptions (in London: Namco Station on the South Bank, and in the Trocadero at Piccadilly Circus) they're generally located where people would otherwise be bored: airports, bowling alleys and English seaside towns (for when it's raining and you already saw all the shops during yesterday's rain).

      But maybe I just don't notice them, since I don't really take any interest in them.

    3. Re:The pics make it look like a filthy shithole by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Heh. Let's just say, don't go to Chuck E. Cheese's after the first of the month. Why? Because that's when the welfare checks come in. Think I'm joking? The Wall Street Journal did a piece on the high number of police calls at Chuck E. Cheeses. Biker bars record fewer calls. Look at the Google search.

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    4. Re:The pics make it look like a filthy shithole by muindaur · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, with American culture it's focused on playing games at home with a few friends. The only difference from arcades is you don't have to compete with strangers for a turn, and eventually the cost of a DDR pad pays itself off(assuming you don't stomp it to death.)

      I think another reason U.S. arcades died out is because of cost. $1-$1.25 per game for some is beyond expensive, and it's even worse if they require tokens instead of quarters.

      Though, last time I made the pilgrimage, Fun Spot in the lakes region(it's the big honkin one though I heard JTs BBQ closed down across the street so no more good after fun eats) of N.H. still had some classics (a really old Star Wars game), and prices weren't too bad on the older machines.

  2. Arcades are important by Mprx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you care about quality you should care about arcades. Arcades force ruthless competition between games. Only the best earn enough to be worth their floor space. Developers are forced to innovate, and good ideas spread to the rest of the industry.

    This essay explains the greatness of arcades:
    http://insomnia.ac/commentary/arcade_culture/

    1. Re:Arcades are important by ae1294 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You get an invite after you've posted as AC on Slashdot for five years. Visit mine.

      My god IT'S A TRAP!

    2. Re:Arcades are important by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 2

      More importantly, games compete for my _time_. I only have a set amount of time to game, so I'm not going to buy anything that's not recommended or well reviewed. (Or that I can't get a demo for).

  3. Oh no! by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

    Now where will the drug dealers be able to market their products to kids?!?

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    1. Re:Oh no! by decipher_saint · · Score: 3, Funny

      Everywhere else?

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  4. Re:Last Arcade Last Great Arcade by KermodeBear · · Score: 2

    They used to be, perhaps. Used to be that every mall had a video game arcade, but they've all closed down. The closest thing I have available is a Dave and Buster's, more than an hour's drive away. Consequently, I only head there with a group of friends a few times a year. Even that is looking empty these days. This might be because they haven't changed any of their machines in well over three years though...

    But, at the same time, if you want to game with your friends then your PC/XBox/PS/etc. is right there in your home and you don't have to feed it quarters every time you want a little bit of joy. There's more variety. I think the sad reality is that arcades are too expensive for what they offer compared to what is available without ever leaving your house.

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  5. Re:Consoles Killed the Arcade by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 2

    that's bullshit.

    Arcades are still doing well enough in Japan.

    What killed arcades were lousy games. Japan wasn't exporting the best games, and American companies gave up around the late 80's. There was also the impression that video games and thus arcades, were for kids. This drove serious gaming out of the arcade as well. Faced with shrinking profit margins, arcade operators turned to ticket redemption to drive their coin intake.

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  6. Re:Consoles Killed the Arcade by grapeape · · Score: 2

    And when was the last time you visited one? I have great memories of arcades when I was kid as well I used to go weekly often several times a week, but I can admit I haven't been in one in about 2 years...the last one I went to was a Dave & Busters and it was for a party. As for the sticky floors comment, the few remaining arcades in my area are run down, over priced and poorly maintained, maybe its different somewhere else but from people I have talked to its more then norm than the exception.

    No online gaming doesn't recreate the experience but with chat and video becoming more and more common its a common substitute that is far more accessible and convenient for many.

  7. Arcades are dying the same way theatres are dying by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Face it - they're both dying. Between home theatres and consoles, their days are numbered.

    We complain about bad movies, but movies are intended still to put asses in seats, not sell DVDs. Yet lots of people complain about the theatre experience - cellphones, rude people, expensive tickets, etc.

    Arcades have the same issue - the good game machine is always busy, why keep pumping in quarters, etc.

    And the biggest issue of all - if you have responsibilities, it's a lot easier ot sit one's butt on the couch for a movie or a game versus arranging a sitter, going out, playing a bit, returning home, etc. (And when the trip can be a half hour each way, it's a complete loss of an hour in one's day - an hour that oculd be spent watching the movie or gaming - important when most people are rushed and tired).

    Sure, arcades and theatres provide a more social experience and have their advantages (big screens, pinball). But the reality is, they're not big draws anymore given the inconvenience. Theatres have big screens and latest movies, arcades have pinball (whose experience can't be replicated virtually - you miss out of the feel from real balls hitting real objects), but the draw isn't there.

    I'd love to play pinball, but going out of my way to play it isn't appealing. And a movie has to be really good for me to see it, but even so I've only gone at most once a year.

  8. Re:`What a filthy looking place in Street View!' by ae1294 · · Score: 2

    . What about pickpockets in such place?

    Yea I work that place sometimes and let me tell you, quarters don't go very far when you're trying to buy meth...

  9. gotta reinvent by JohnnySlash · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's mostly for adults, due to the bar, but still Ground Kontrol in Portland (OR) is a fantastic example of how arcades can survive: http://groundkontrol.com/arcade/index.php

  10. Arcade cabinets no longer tied to arcades by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

    Just like going out to see a movie is no longer the only option with home theaters and huge screens, getting the real "arcade" feeling is no longer tied to a location if you can get the cabinet inside your home.

    A lot of people have been building their own arcade cabinets for the last decade or two with the help of community websites such as Arcade Controls. There's also plenty of companies who sell real arcade parts such Happ/Sanwa/Seimitsu buttons and joysticks, others sell "empty" cabinets in which you add your own game hardware (console or computer).

  11. Not in Portlandia! by Krater76 · · Score: 2

    There's always Ground Kontrol! It's Portland so it's really a bar with a lot of great arcade games. I haven't been there in a little while but they just finished remodeling. This thread reminded me to head down there again. My personal fave is Track & Field.

    Some might balk at the idea of it being 21 and over only, but realistically anyone less than 21 isn't going to know what a true arcade is. They are used to the mall 'arcades' that are mostly games of moderate skill that spit out tickets that they exchange for some crappy toys when they are done.

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  12. Waxing nostalgic by Itesh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was a kid in the 80s and I have such good memories of my dad taking me down to our local arcade after my getting my report cards. I wish that I could recapture the awe and have my son (only 5) be able to have a similar experience as I did. The games were phenomenal: Pac-Man, Joust, Asteroids, Space Invaders, Frogger, Donkey Kong, Mario Bros., Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, Mill/Centipede, Double Dragon, Gauntlet, Ghost Busters, Robocop, Saturday Night Slam Masters and Operation Wolf were some of the games I fondly remember. I have to give a special shout out to Pinbot as one of the best pin ball machines ever. There was nothing better than spending $20 and staying up past my bed time to play video games at an arcade.

  13. "bottom-pounding"? by wcrowe · · Score: 2

    partook of their usual button-pounding pastimes

    Perhaps arcades are no longer what I thought they were.

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