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Study Calls Craigslist 'a Cesspool of Crime'
Bala4361 writes "Classifieds site Craigslist has been linked with 330 crimes, 12 murders and 105 robberies or assaults in the United States last year due to anonymous interactions on the site, says a new study. The report calls Craigslist 'a cesspool of crime,' citing murders, rapes, robberies, assault and rental rip-offs as some of the examples." Among the many Reefer Madness-style quotable stretchers from the originating consultancy: "The unfortunate fact is that Craigslist has become almost synonymous with crime." Update: 02/25 17:05 GMT by S : Craigslist has posted a response.
A lot of crime happens on the streets. What conclusion does that draw?
Out of how many millions of ads?
This is why many of us lament the death of math and science in this country. No sense of proportions or priorities.
What they're missing is that all of these criminals ingested significant quantities dihydrogen monoxide in the 48 hours before each of these crimes was committed. When will people learn?
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
"The unfortunate fact is that Craigslist has become almost synonymous with really great deals."
"The unfortunate fact is that Craigslist has become almost synonymous with bargains that don't get taxed."
"The unfortunate fact is that Craigslist has become almost synonymous with purchases that don't get tracked by advertisers."
Those are the first things that leap to MY mind.
Nostalgia's not what it used to be.
So, what's the ratio of criminals to honest ads? Craigslist claims 80 million classifieds are placed each month, that means that the odds of any one ad being linked to a crime is an amazing 1:2900000. Won't someone close down this cesspool of crime!? Granted, there's plenty of illegal stuff going on in craigslist ads; prostitution, drug selling, etc. I would imagine that is the odds of accidentally becoming the victim crime rather than participating in it.
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Which I'll bet includes all types of classifieds and advertising EXCEPT Craigslist.
Don't drink and craigslist!
Pretty much. They might as well have declared that the internet is a cesspool of crime, or that populated areas are cesspools of crime.
The study was published by "The AIM Group," of which there are two. One is a placement agency for the petro industry, the other is (can you guess yet?) "Consulting Services for Interactive Media and Classified Advertising"
Shorter version of TFA "Don't use the crime infested, but generally free Craigslist, pay our customers to place your classifieds safely, without the fear of VIOLENT RAPE!"
I just love screwing with marketing numbskulls who try to manipulate people into giving them free publicity. Where's your free publicity now, AIM Group?
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
The AIM Group has just completed a research project for Oodle, a Craigslist competitor, cataloging crimes that have been linked to Craigslist. And the results surprised even us.
Yeah. Screw you assholes and your manufactured FUD.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
Luke: You know, I think that R2 unit we bought may have been stolen.
Uncle Owen: What makes you think that?
Luke: Well, I stumbled across a recording while I was cleaning him. He says that he belongs to someone named Obi-Wan Kenobi. I thought he might have meant old Ben. Do you know what he's talking about?
Uncle Owen: Just a fucking Craigslist thing, you know how it is.
Luke: I wonder if he's related to Ben.
Uncle Owen: That wizard is just a crazy old internet pervert. Now, tomorrow I want you to take that R2 unit to Anchorhead and have it's memory erased. That'll be the end of it. It belongs to us now.
Report was done by a company called "AIM Group". Go ahead and click through to the site. Check the sponsors box on the right. Notice anything? (In case you didn't click through or have ad-blocking software, I'm referring to the eBay and Kijiji ads.)
Not to mention that they say right in the study that it was commissioned by a Craigslist competitor, Oodle. So they're being paid both directly and indirectly by competitors to Craigslist. Is any of this mentioned in the coverage of the study? Not a chance.
It's a smear paper in its finest and nothing else, especially not a "study".
It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
- E. Debs
They might as well have declared that the internet is a cesspool of crime, or that populated areas are cesspools of crime.
But they didn't. I'm starting to think that there's a semi-concerted effort going to put Craigslist out of business. First, there was the brouhaha over Craigslist's adult section, which came about because people complained that the personals section was basically a front for adult services. This resulted in much gnashing of teeth, big proclamations by various government and non-government entities that Craigslist was knowingly profiting from the sexual trafficking of minors. Now we get this hyperbolic hackjob of an article that essentially says that Craigslist is a front for criminal gangs.
Really? I'm guessing that there are two groups of people who won't stop before Craigslist just shuts down: corporations whose business model has been completely shot to pieces by Craigslist (any classified ad network), and people who think that it's satanic when two people communicate with each other without either the government or a large corporation listening in.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.
No, this is a report, funded by a Craigslist competitor, who specifically asked the AIM group to find a link between Craigslist and crime. It is a publicity piece, a smear job, it is not a scientific study. They started from the conclusion they wanted to reach, and worked backwards to find evidence to support that conclusion. They did not put the data into a larger context and compare the incidence of crime on Craigslist with incidence of crime against traditional classified users or other classified websites.
Note that I have no financial interest in any of the companies involved, and no particular love for Craigslist. If they tried the same sneaky, underhanded marketing tactics, I would call them out on it as well. I wonder how many people posting here attacking Craigslist like you are doing are employees of Oodle or the AIMgroup? I mean, if they would pay for a "study" like this, obviously they also would pay for astroturfers, right?
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
Dihydrogen monoxide? That stuff ought to be banned! It can cause death if it is inhaled, and is the chief component of acid rain!
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Bingo. The study was done by AIM Group, "Consulting services for interactive media and classified advertising". It's probably in their best interest to shut down craigslist, because craigslist doesn't employ their services. One way is to start spreading FUD about craigslist with fancy-sounding studies that aren't based on any kind of sound reasoning at all.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
I think it would be useful for somebody to figure out who commissioned the AIM Group for this "study."
Took all of 30 seconds.
The AIM Group has just completed a research project for Oodle, a Craigslist competitor, cataloging crimes that have been linked to Craigslist. And the results surprised even us.
Amazing. A competitor gets a 'research' project funded that says nasty things. The mind boggles.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
This is redundant, posted far downthread, but it's important here for scrollers: it's all BS--
See http://blog.craigslist.org/2011/02/more-pay-to-play-research-from-aim/
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I grew up on a farm, and we were constantly spraying that stuff on plants. It would radically change the way they grew, so you could clearly see a line in a field where it had been applied, and where it hadn't. We even had tanks of it in places, and animals like squirrels and mice would regularly get into it and die, and I'd have to clean out their little corpses as one of my chores. God knows if you tested my body today I'm probably still full of the stuff. Crazy what we used to do before organic farming came along.