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A Spamming Attorney Gets Sentenced To 40 Months
www.sorehands.com writes "While one spammer, Robert Soloway, gets released on probation, the Feds send another, Robert Smoley, to the slammer for 40 months.
I know about Smoley because I tracked him down, and beat him in court. Not only was he an attorney, he still has not lost his license, yet. The IRS contacted me as a result of seeing my web site, and I gladly assisted the IRS in tracking his business. He not only bounced a check on me, but stiffed his local counsel and one of his ISPs."
What is it about Roberts?
And someone needs to teach the guy who wrote the website how to attach a .css
Just block "Robert S.*ol.*y".
it's (evile) not getting many more of us they inform confidently, although one can see/feel the pain of the mounting losses. ever the strategists, the bips have positioned themselves on almost every square foot of the populated areas of the planet. plus, they outnumber us 'groanups' (they say quipically) 4-5:1, or, by several billions, they politely remind us. aided by the total permanent cooperation of the League of Smelly Infants (another couple billion of them little bundles of peace&quiet), & the increasing support of the (cast adrift?) world+dog 'movement', a more formidable group of lifelovers has never been assembled, in order (cannot be stopped) to rescue us from ourselves.
so, although evile (life0cidal intentions?) has felt comfortably entrenched for about +- a few 1000 years, & even now has plans to 'extinct' many of us, the babys et al are absolutely certain that "they're not leavin' 'till it's even". they also like to remind us again; they have no (0) politics/religion. for most of them, reading & talking is for later, when things are safe for us. see you there?
Aren't you that Time Cube guy?
"Tell me doctor, with all of your defenses, are there any provisions for an attack by killer bees?"
"...Attorney... sentenced..."
Victory.
If you can read this, I forgot to post anonymously.
what is this i don't even
So you were doing work for a spammer and now you're suddenly all holier-than-thou because he didn't pay you?
I guess you've made a few calls to the BSA in your time, too.
According to the linked Miami Herald article, he got sentenced for running an online pharmacy, not for spamming. Big change in tone of the article. Spamming just lead to some one being annoyed enough at the guy to help the IRS track him down.
I am conflicted.
The owner of that website is either a drama queen or a troll. There's a space in the footer that links to this: http://barbieslapp.com/z-ads/trapper_1.htm
If I had had my morning coffee I could conjure the words to describe how ridiculous that is.
I'm amazed at the prison sentences for sending bulk e-mail in a country like the USA or any other western country. SPAM can easily be filtered, why should people be sent to prison? Does SPAM (such as viagra spam) harm people in any way? I do believe that speading viruses/malware/phishing through e-mail can cause damages but isn't a prison sentence exaggerated?
It had to be Florida, didn't it? I think the whole state economy must basically be scams, spam and other illegal activities.. I've had dealing with a few FL lawyers in my time too.. and a lot of them have been directly engaged in the criminal activities of their clients too.
And Ben Bernanke, et al, still walk free.
From Wikipedia, "Laurence A. Canter and Martha S. Siegel were partners in a husband-and-wife firm of lawyers who on April 12, 1994 posted the first massive commercial Usenet spam . . . Canter and Siegel were not the first Usenet spammers. The "Green Card" spam was, however, the first commercial Usenet spam, and its unrepentant authors are seen as having fired the starting gun for the legions of spammers that now occupy the Internet." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor_and_Seagal
But this case seems to be more about wire fraud, than spam.
But still, thanks a lot Cantor and Siegel! You should have patented it! "A Method and Process of Sending Unwanted Advertisements to Everyone on the Internet, Which They Don't Want, and Don't need."
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
When you wish to have patent trolls on spam, you don't get them.
So some guy who sent out spam was convicted and jailed for something not related to his spam. Really he might as well have been ticketed for jaywalking, it would be just as useful in regards to the spamming epidemic. In the end this kind of crap will never make one iota of difference in global spam volumes or the problems that come from them.
As long as there is money to be made from sending spam, spam will continue to be sent. The only way to end spam is to detach spammers from their revenue sources, period. This did not accomplish that so the spam will continue.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Anti-spam laws limit our ability as people to organize to action they limit our freedom of speech. Not only that, they just punish those of us in free countries even more.
Ever hear of Al Capone? They got him on tax evasion.
Last year, someone sent in a traffic ticket with a not guilty plea on it. The ticket had blood on it, and it led to a major drug bust. Or a
traffic stop for an open alchohol container lead to a
heroin-trafficking arrest
Many times, the investigation started as one thing, but led to others. From my read of the case docket is that the IRS was investigating Smoley for failing to file tax returns and Silverstein's web site and chat led them to the internet pharmacy.
It seems subby here is just using this to promote his personal agendas. The story isn't even about spam. It really looks like the submitter just wanted to get his site linked on slashdot so he could get crawled by more bots and generate more ridiculous lawsuits.
Grow up and get a job. Going through life entrapping spammers is no way to live son.
These anti-spam crusaders are getting annoying. Seriously, people have nothing better to do with their time. They fancy themselves nothing short of Nazi hunters. Get a spam filter or open a gmail account.
You bastard, now where am I gonna get my Viagra? There goes my prime tail.
Table-ized A.I.
Perhaps I am in the minority BUT...
Can someone explain to me why precisely spam is so serious an offense as it would appear to slashdot users? Why are there countless posts of slashdotters -- whether in jest or not -- calling for the death and conviction of "spammers"?
Last I checked, spam has never hurt me or any of my loved ones. Spam has annoyed me. Spam has brought my inbox closer to its quota, but it has never actually physically, materially or financially harmed me.
So I do not wish any spammer go to prison for ten years -- why would I wish such a fate upon someone whose crime against me has not diminished my livelihood at all?
Our prisons are over-populated and its because Americans have some seriously flawed values. I can understand slashdotters annoyance with spammers but I do not understand slashdotters apparent blood-thirst for them. Can any of you please explain to me why precisely spammers are so evil and deserving of punishment? Perhaps you can convince me -- please, I just want to know!
I don't care who wins, as long as the battle is long and bloody. Pass the popcorn....
What an obnoxious and offensive footer his web site has. Leaves a bad taste in the mouth that makes it all feel like he's being turned into an Attorney himself.
But still, thanks a lot Cantor and Siegel! You should have patented it! "A Method and Process of Sending Unwanted Advertisements to Everyone on the Internet, Which They Don't Want, and Don't need."
The PR industry (c. early 1900s) is way ahead of them. And if Bernays had patented the technique, it would have expired long ago. Except for the Internet part. So you're right, they could have patented it. Except the patent would expire in 3 years. Unless someone could figure out a slight modification, or an iApp, that was worthy of another patent. Except that couldn't happen.
Advertising is the art of convincing people to spend money they don't have for something they don't need. -- Will Rogers
Spammign is always bad, Internet pharmacys are a blessing.
“The Smoley drug trafficking organization fed the habits of drug seekers while its members chose profits over the health and well-being of those customers,” said DEA special agent Anthony
How does giving people meds they cant get cause they cant afford to go to the doctor hurt patients. Yes, some will overdose, Darwin takes care of that. People overdose on Ibuproifn all the time. As long as hes really shipping the medications requested I don't see a problem with it. Just more uneducated DEA saber rattling.
--- Always remember. 99.36% of all statistics are inaccurate.
It seems he has a beef against Mattel for some reason, but after 15 minutes skimming through all I could find was stuff about how they tried to silence him and his demands for an apology. I never found what exactly he has against them.
When you offer email service to someone else and they sign up for stuff don't get upset when they receive an email they asked for.
Huh? If someone signs up for an e-mail, then it is not spam.
However, if I sign up for one thing, it is does not authorize everyone else in the world to e-mail me. Buyig a list is not buying permission.
Inserting an '@' in my e-mail address does not indicate that I want marketing material from every insurance lead generator in the world.
If Charlie Sheen gives me Denise Richards telephone number and address, does that give me permission to spend the night with her?
attorney can't get himself out of a 40 month conviction for spamming.
find a new day job.
Of course, I would not hire him since he can't keep himself out of jail, even when he planned the crimes.
It seems to me like he was in a lot more trouble than justthe 2 charges he pled guilty to! When one pleads guilty to two crimes and gets 40 months getting $40M seized, one must wonder what other crimes that he bargained out of? Criminal spamming, tax evasion, conspiracy?
A member in good standing according to the Florida Bar. Which pretty much tells you everything you need to know about the Florida Bar..
Never email donotemail@WeAreSpammers.com
Charlie Sheen? Is that you?
Oh, so that's why I've been getting all those penis enlargement spam mails? The spammer is a lawyer, aka a big dick.
Aren't you that Time Cube guy?
No, it's not centred.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
The "history of the lawsuit" page was interesting reading, but while reading I followed a link and was told in no uncertain terms that I was to leave the site immediately... I take it he won in the end?
Paul "TBBle" Hampson
Paul.Hampson@Pobox.Com
I'd have thought an attorney would act as his own counsel.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Sounds like you are one of those spammers that got his little pee pee slapped by Silverstein.
Put an attorney AND a spammer in the clink, just makes my eyes all teary....
"What this country needs now is a drink." -FDR