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Chandrayaan-1 Spots Giant Underground Chamber On the Moon

siliconeyes writes "Scientists at the Indian Space Research Organization have discovered a giant underground chamber on the moon, which they feel could be used as a base by astronauts on future manned missions to moon. An analysis by an instrument on Chandrayaan-1 revealed a 1.7-km long and 120-metre wide cave near the moon's equator that is in the Oceanus Procellarum area of the moon that could be a suitable 'base station' for future human missions."

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  1. Re:Useless place by Graff · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This cace is "near the moon's equator". The only places where we could find water are on the poles.

    It's not that hard to move the water, especially in a low-g environment such as the moon. A pipeline from the pole to the equator would be about 1,700 miles, definitely possible considering that the longest pipeline on Earth is around 2,500 miles.

    You could also have largely autonomous vehicles which shuttle back and forth from both sites on a ballistic trajectory, it would take a relatively low amount of energy. Hell, I'd use something like a space fountain or launch loop because most of the energy of launch could be re-captured when the payload lands.

    Natural lava tubes this size are a great find for many reasons:

    • living quarters will need considerable shielding from:
      • high-energy particles
      • pressure differences
      • temperature swings
      • micro-meteor impacts
    • the best first-line of shielding will be the moon's regolith, it's dense and locally-available
    • excavation takes time and that means a lot of money supporting the crew and equipment doing the digging
    • you'll have to shield the crew during excavation, which means you need to bring shielding with you

    A large, stable lava tube greatly simplifies the entire process and saves a lot of time and money.

  2. Re:Useless place by subreality · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think the pipeline would work. 1700 miles is easy on earth, but a much tougher construction project in hard vacuum. Can you imagine welding though spacesuit gloves? Not to mention it'd be terribly expensive to lift 1700 miles of pipe. Even then you'll have to expend a lot of energy heating it so the water doesn't freeze.

    I'd think it'd be easier to dig another cave in a more convenient location.

    On the other hand, the words "Space fountain" gave me an awesome idea before I looked up what it really is. Here's what I thought: collect water at the poles, pressurize it, and squirt it through a nozzle on a ballistic trajectory toward the moon base. Lay out tarps all around the base. The water will freeze in flight and fall on the tarps. When you need more water, reel the tarps in and collect the ice.

    You could improve the aim by making a specialized nozzle. After initially launching the drops, have them go down a long barrel, perhaps tens of meters long, with some kind of noncontacting guidance mechanism inside. Induction coils? Little microdroplet sprayers? It'd be like aiming the electron beam down a CRT. Depending how tight you can dial in the convergence, you might be able to make due with a giant funnel on the receiving end.

    Keep in mind you don't need to bring back a lot of water. You only need enough to replenish what gets lost. Pipelines are great for big volume, but for these small amounts, I'd bet the "moon fountain" might cut it.

    Or just send out an RC moon buggy to pick up a few barrels from time to time.