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UK Schools Consider Searching Pupils' Smartphones

An anonymous reader writes "What right to privacy do school pupils have on their mobile phones? UK education officials are considering ways to clamp down on cyber-bullying and classroom disruption by allowing teachers to search and delete content from student handsets if it is deemed unsuitable. However, questions remain whether such a move would give teachers too much power and infringe on student rights."

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  1. Re:Sigh by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That was when you were 9. Times have changed.

    Scenario 1:
    Johnny and Mark gets into a fight after school.
    1970 - Crowd gathers. Johnny wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best mates for life.
    2010 - Police called, arrests Johnny and Marko. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Mark started it. Both children go to anger management programs for 3 months. School board hold meeting to implement bullying prevention programs

    Scenario 2:
    Robbie won't Keep still in class, disrupts other students.
    1970 - Robbie sent to office and given 6 of the best by the headmasterl, Returns to class, sits stil and does not disrupt class again.
    2010 - Robbie given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. Robbie's parents get fortnightly disability payments and school gets extra funding from state because Robbie has a disability.

  2. Re:Sigh by BradleyUffner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The seeds of yet another encroachment on human rights by the UK

    Kids are not adults.

    It's a good thing they are called "Human Rights", not "Adult Rights" then, isn't it?

  3. apologists by epyT-R · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure there'll be plenty of apologists here who will say

    1. "I'm old and I don't like that young people have better times ahead of them so I am happy to hear about them being clamped down in some way."
    2. the legal apologist who says if the law allows/denies it, it must be ok/not ok. who cares that we're discussing, at least obliquely, the effects of this scenario that it creates.
    3. "when I was a kid" douchebags.
    4. the wannabe tyrant who props up his insecurities by always siding with big brother tyrants.

    How about just throwing out the kids who are disruptive in class? this way no property has to be ruined, no lawsuits filed, and the kids who want to be there to learn (or at least graduate) can do so. if it's the kind of thing where the kid's sitting there quietly with headphones on, leave him alone.. he's not bothering anyone else. the only reason teachers throw these kinds of 'offenders' out is because of their insecure feelings of being 'dissed.' Really, it's not necessary because the kid will fail the class...or pass it because he already knew the material. Remind him that paying attention is important and he'll need to take off the 'phones to do that. if he says 'no' just say 'remember there's a test next week, I hope you'll be prepared.' and leave it at that. if the kid keeps forgetting to turn off his cell phone ringer, then throw him out of the class until he starts remembering. none of this requires a panopticonic policy. of course such policies have a benefit for the emotional security challenged people out there who are more often than not in-charge.

    The 'cyber bullying 'excuse for this new 'power' is just another form of 'for the children.' searching/confiscating phones and deleting files on them is not going to stop bullying.. in fact, all this will do is enable yet another way for faculty to bully students.

  4. Re:Sigh by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That was when you were 9. Times have changed.

    Scenario 1:
    Johnny and Mark gets into a fight after school.
    1970 - Crowd gathers. Johnny wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best mates for life.
    2010 - Police called, arrests Johnny and Marko. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Mark started it. Both children go to anger management programs for 3 months. School board hold meeting to implement bullying prevention programs

    That's great. You've been watching The Bells of St Mary's where the bullied kid learns how to box and beats his opponent in a David and Goliath struggle and it all worked out beautifully. Congratulations.

    Now here's how it really happened in 1970. Mark picks a fight with Johnny who doesn't want to fight. Mark insists and instead of the good guy winning, Mark kicks the crap out of Johnny anyway. Johnny is left bleeding, bruised, dazed, stunned, crying and traumatised. Johnny goes on to have problems in later life because he was bullied in school.

    It wasn't all a bed of roses. God forbid if nostalgia for a non-existent golden age ever forms the basis of policy.

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    Drill baby drill - on Mars