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China Pledges To Step Up Internet Administration

angry tapir writes "China says it will step up administration of the Internet this year while continuing to build out the country's fiber-optic backbone and expand broadband access for consumers. Internet administration was mentioned in a keynote report on the work of the government to China's parliamentary session. It underlined the importance of culture and noted the need to 'strengthen the development of civic morality' and 'speed up the establishment of moral and behavioral norms that carry forward traditional Chinese virtues.' The pledge comes amid revelations that DDoS attacks against WordPress last week allegedly originated from China."

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  1. Authortarian Vomit by Microlith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It underlined the importance of culture and noted the need to 'strengthen the development of civic morality' and 'speed up the establishment of moral and behavioral norms that carry forward traditional Chinese virtues.'

    Or in other words: suppress the flow of information that might threaten CCP rule, and push more magical-thinking hogwash created by the CCP down the people's throat. Just like every other "morality" or "virtue" rule the CCP has pushed in the past 30+ years.

    1. Re:Authortarian Vomit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I thought when I read that. The internet shouldn't be "administered" at all, especially by any governmental body, and DEFINITELY not one that fears freedom of information, communication, speech and press.

    2. Re:Authortarian Vomit by corbettw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just like every other "morality" or "virtue" rule statists have pushed in the past 10,000+ years.

      FTFY. Not that the Chinese government isn't the ultimate example of this kind of thinking in the 21st century, but this kind of hogwash and claptrap has been the bread and butter for statist pigs for millenia. Anytime someone tells you they have the answer to what is just and moral, and all it takes is you giving up your free will to conform to it to make the world a better place, well, they can just go fuck themselves.

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    3. Re:Authortarian Vomit by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's called "socialist morality". Look it up.

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    4. Re:Authortarian Vomit by Ceriel+Nosforit · · Score: 1

      pigs

      This doesn't help your rhetoric.

      Returning to the topic, if you construct an evil straw man the opposition will rise up to fight it and as a consequence take some small degree of resemblance to it. If however you encourage their developments to fit your own, positive, expectations they will also rise to this challenge to some degree. Which one of this approaches you choose, positive or negative, speaks a lot about your own disposition.

      Do you want to be "knee-jerk", or "smart"? Slashdot has chewed the same nerd rage for the past 10 years without much development, and I think a lot of us would like to see improvement.

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    5. Re:Authortarian Vomit by ravenspear · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And the US is complicit, as long as China keeps paying.

      The infrastructure that powers China's firewall (interconnections, deep packet inspection routers, software filters, etc) was built and configured by US corporations.

      China is not the only place where economic considerations trump human rights for many people.

    6. Re:Authortarian Vomit by countertrolling · · Score: 1

      Eh, give them time to develop the 30 minute sit-com. Then these hamfisted methods won't be needed anymore. But I have to ask, who's making more noise about wikileaks?

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    7. Re:Authortarian Vomit by dimethylxanthine · · Score: 1

      If it's filtering things like child porn and mass produced soap operas - information shaping is fine by me...

    8. Re:Authortarian Vomit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and yet 9 out of 10 people (depending on your source) believe in some sort of religion... seems the pigs have plenty of sheep willing to drink whatever particular kool-aid being offered.

    9. Re:Authortarian Vomit by dimethylxanthine · · Score: 0

      I'm going to man up and assert that child pornography and videos portraying human and animal abuse - available in abundance, regardless of their legality - are unjust an immoral.

    10. Re:Authortarian Vomit by Jurily · · Score: 1

      and DEFINITELY not one that fears freedom of information, communication, speech and press.

      What else is there?

    11. Re:Authortarian Vomit by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      You sure about that exclusivity? Because last time I was in China, I found many more Asian and European products and services in at least Shanghai, Chongqing, and Chengdu. Also, ZTE supplies quite a bit of networking equipment. Not sure how much of their technology source is native vs pirated however.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZTE
      http://wwwen.zte.com.cn/en/products/vas/ict/information_security/201008/t20100811_188343.html

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    12. Re:Authortarian Vomit by ravenspear · · Score: 1

      Yeah I wasn't saying it was exclusively US companies, but I do know that companies like Cisco played a big part.

    13. Re:Authortarian Vomit by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      FTFY. Not that the Chinese government isn't the ultimate example of this kind of thinking in the 21st century, but this kind of hogwash and claptrap has been the bread and butter for statist pigs for millenia.

      Whatever about states and statists, this kind of press release is pretty typical of what has come out of corporate PR offices in the last decade or two.

      I digress by noting the cosy relationship between corporations and the Chinese state over the same period.

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    14. Re:Authortarian Vomit by Omniskio · · Score: 1

      ONLY thinks like child porn? ONLY things like mass produced soap operas? I take it you welcome porn for adults, "Return of the Condor Heroes", news of the Jasmine Revolution? BTW, the phrase "information shaping" is a bit revealing.

    15. Re:Authortarian Vomit by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Yeah I wasn't saying it was exclusively US companies, but I do know that companies like Cisco played a big part.

      They just got the ball rolling. I don't think China has any intention of being dependent upon Cisco (or any other foreign corporation) for critical infrastructure for any longer than necessary to develop their on in-house replacements.

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    16. Re:Authortarian Vomit by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      ONLY thinks like child porn? ONLY things like mass produced soap operas? I take it you welcome porn for adults, "Return of the Condor Heroes", news of the Jasmine Revolution? BTW, the phrase "information shaping" is a bit revealing.

      Yes. Synonymous with "filtering based upon identification of specific content."

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    17. Re:Authortarian Vomit by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      If the US is complicit in Chinese traffic filtering, then gun manufacturers are complicit in all bank robberies, knife manufacturers are complicit in muggings, and beer manufacturers are complicit in bar-brawls.

    18. Re:Authortarian Vomit by slick7 · · Score: 1

      If it's filtering things like child porn and mass produced soap operas - information shaping is fine by me...

      That's fine and all, however,I wouldn't trust the P(i)R(a)C(y) to administer anything. The P(i)R(a)C(y), for the last several thousand years has a checkered past of corruption at all levels of government. The only half credible government, IMHO was the Ming dynasty, and even that, I'm sure, had its problems too.

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    19. Re:Authortarian Vomit by iamhigh · · Score: 1

      MOD UP!!!!

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  2. Chinese virtues as in blocking and tracking by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 2

    Chinese virtues as in blocking and tracking what people post?

    1. Re:Chinese virtues as in blocking and tracking by c0lo · · Score: 1

      Chinese virtues as in blocking and tracking what people post?

      No, but rather on the line of "To win 100 victories in 100 battles is not the highest skill". Which translates to:

      "multiple Gigabits per second and tens of millions of packets per second" (2nd TFA) is still puny. We need a bigger bandwidth and better coordination.

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    2. Re:Chinese virtues as in blocking and tracking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chinese virtues as in blocking and tracking what people post?

      No, a virtue is something moral..... like harvesting organs.

  3. Government's fault by buchner.johannes · · Score: 0

    Why is it that when a attack originates in China, people immediately think it was ordered by the chinese government, but if it originates from Turkey -- not so much?
    Perhaps because we don't understand the Chinese too well?

    "Turkey says it will step up administration of the Internet this year while continuing to build out the country's fiber-optic backbone and expand broadband access for consumers. Internet administration was mentioned in a keynote report on the work of the government to Turkey's parliamentary session. It underlined the importance of culture and noted the need to 'strengthen the development of civic morality' and 'speed up the establishment of moral and behavioral norms that carry forward traditional Turkish virtues.' The pledge comes amid revelations that DDoS attacks against WordPress last week allegedly originated from Turkey."

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    1. Re:Government's fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Please. The Chinese "People" are ordinary people, much like the rest of us. They go to work, build friendships, try to get laid... imposing their control and world view in a global sense isn't much of a concern for them. But we're talking about someone that has these inclinations of imposing control.

      Now, the Chinese Government calls itself "The Ruling Party", and mobilizes their police force to prevent international news reporters from actually reporting anything that has to do with a certain inspirational flower. They censure the internet for their own citizens. I think your Spidey senses will help you figure out the rest.

  4. yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >regulation
    >Internet

    The Internet is nothing but a collection of autonomous systems (AS), with China representing but a few such AS, with the Internet composed of all the AS of the world which all choose to exchange data in a mutually acceptable format, called the Internet Protocol. It works because the partners agree to work together towards these goals.

    When they don't, de-peering occurs, and people loose access to parts of the Internet. (Keep in mind most servers that most the world uses are in North America, Europe, and Japan...)

    So, China is limited in it's abilities, such as forking the DNS. Which would be AWESOME because hopefully DNS would die and be replaced with something better. Anything but this horribly centralized system we have now (ICANN), which is the most common reason people's Internet "goes down".

    Yeah, right....

    1. Re:yeah right by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

      ...replaced with something better.

      Do you have something specific in mind that will do the same job as DNS, work reliably, and not require any entity like ICANN?

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    2. Re:yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's only 4 bytes -- you can remember them.

      (This post brought to you by 2001 -- where 2^32 addresses are enough for anyone, nobody gives a damn about newfangled IPv6 thing, and the childrean are all above average.)

  5. A nation of administrators by Troll-Under-D'Bridge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    China says it will step up administration of the Internet this year

    If politically, the US is a nation of lawyers, then, as a single-party state, the PROC is effectively a nation of administrators. The US Congress might debate about network neutrality, but in China all issues pertaining to the Internet are viewed as problems of administration (management). China, Inc. makes more sense than the old Japan, Inc.

    The PC World article references a downloadable PDF translation of Premier Wen's report to the National People's Congress from the Wall Street Journal. The part about administering the Internet comes from a section titled "Vigorously enhancing cultural development".

    We will develop the press and publishing, radio and television, film, literature and art and archives. We will step up the use and administration of the Internet. We will deepen reform of the cultural management system and actively push forward the transformation of cultural institutions that are operating as commercial entities into real businesses.

    The word "administration" occurs at least 15 times throughout the document, chiefly in the construct "social administration" and goes well with an image of Wen as some sort of company president or CEO delivering his annual stockholders' (party) report.

    Geek note: The ~3 MB PDF appears to be a series of scanned pages overlaid upon the OCR'ed text version of the document. So you can actually cut and paste the text.

    1. Re:A nation of administrators by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      China's love for administrators runs far, far deeper than a difference between single-party rule and liberal democracy. China has been an authoritarian bureaucracy since at least the Qin Dynasty whereupon Shang Yang's legalist reforms were applied across the whole nation. For thousands of years it was the dream of most literate Chinese (and extensibly their families) to pass the civil service exams and become respected bureaucrats. After so many generations that has become inextricable from the Chinese culture and society.

      People in the West need to understand China's past before they can understand its present, let alone its future, but sadly aside from "Confucius" (I always wonder what Master Kong would think of the original romanization of his name) and Mao most Westerners don't even know any significant Chinese or their contributions. People need to know who Li Kui was before they can understand how fundamentally he shaped Chinese society.

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  6. Sad by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Isn't it funny that China's government recognizes the role the internet plays in culture? And wants to direct it in a positive way that benefits everyone in society? The entire idea is anathema to Westerners, isn't it? China does face some very real language problems and separatist tendencies, Mandarin is the common language that glues all of society together. Without a common language, the country would fragment along ethnic and regional lines and it would be back to the warlord civil war era from the 1920s. The government doesn't want this to happen and is enlightened enough to try to keep the country together in order to save millions of lives. Altruistic, eh? In China, the government really is made up of The Smart People. Not just anyone can join the CCP. It's rather like the US State Department or maybe Harvard, where you have to be really smart or have family connections to get in. If you're a redneck (laobaixing) who loves your country and wants to serve they'll just sneer at you, ridicule your hillbilly Mandarin accent that doesn't sound like a newscaster, slam the door in your face, and tell you to join the Army like all good peasants and hicks are supposed to do. Because if there is one cross-cultural idea that all The Smart People agree on worldwide, it's that lesser intellects (or those not from good families) should be ridiculed and rejected from having their ideas seriously considered in government.

    As opposed to, say, America, where the government's idea of benefiting everyone is running up a $223 billion deficit in March 2011 alone, more than all of 2007. The role the internet plays? The internet allows Americans to utterly and completely convince themselves that they live in a real-live functioning fascist police state. And then use that same internet to organize protests against their own government. Inconvenient truths are a bitch, ain't they?

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    1. Re:Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Possibly the most underrated post I've read all night.

    2. Re:Sad by Microlith · · Score: 1

      Inconvenient truths are a bitch, ain't they?

      I'm sorry, what was your rambling point about? Superiority of the CCP or something?

    3. Re:Sad by Mr.+Mikey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Chinese government has a tough problem... how do you transition a nation of over a billion people, mostly subsistence farmers, into the 21st century?

      Unfortunately, one of their chosen means is to attempt to maintain an authoritarian regime. Do the actions of the CCP qualify as "... direct [the internet] in a positive way that benefits everyone in society" ? No, they don't... they seek to maintain power by maintaining order, which they define as maintaining a stranglehold on the expression of ideas. This is done for the benefit of the CCP, not the benefit of the nation.

      I can't help but note that you started out as if you were claiming that the Chinese government was acting in such a way as to benefit the Chinese people... but then you describe the government as an elitist oligarchy based on factors as irrelevant to good governance as one's Mandarin accent. You then go on to reference the US debt as if that was somehow relevant to your assertions concerning the Chinese government.

      The reader is left wondering what you think you point might be, and what you think constitutes support for that point.

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    4. Re:Sad by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Isn't it funny that China's government recognizes the role the internet plays in culture? And wants to direct it in a positive way that benefits everyone in society? The entire idea is anathema to Westerners, isn't it?

      Hahahahaha. You're pretty hilarious. China is just like the US, which is to say, controlled by entrenched interests who have the nation by the balls. The fact that it's different in practically every other way (except, apparently, self-entitlement) is basically irrelevant as long as the country is in the control of capitalist interests.

      It's rather like the US State Department or maybe Harvard, where you have to be really smart or have family connections to get in.

      And where if you don't parlay intelligence into connections, you're going to find rapidly that you don't get to play.

      As opposed to, say, America, where the government's idea of benefiting everyone is running up a $223 billion deficit in March 2011 alone, more than all of 2007.

      I'm sure the Chinese people are going to look back on this time when their economic growth was founded on unlimited pollution and think "Gee, I sure am grateful my parents took a gigantic shit on our country for short-term financial gain for the moneyed elite." Because, you know, it benefits everyone.

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  7. SSL is the key by 0olong · · Score: 2

    Wait for the Chinese population to be as economically dependent on e-commerce as we are (which will happen very soon with widespread broadband availability). That will make it seem very unreasonable for the government to outlaw SSL without a major outcry from its populace. After that, the world should gradually move to make http over SSL the norm rather than the exception. Webmasters of the world, I'm looking at you. Let's see if the "great firewall" can handle that proficiently.

    1. Re:SSL is the key by 0olong · · Score: 2

      Uh, no. The Chinese government will just block everything but their own mandated and back-doored encryption alternative to SSL?

    2. Re:SSL is the key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was going to agree, but upon seeing your post, isn't it obvious that both roads would require some huge deployments at the router, server, firefox/ie/randomChineseBrowserOfChoice and finally that ancient and illegal single license they all pirated of Windows XP OS. On second though, it reeks of our own Western objections and failures with IPv6 in all points.

      They'll rouer-ban SSL and just keep the status quo; saves money, time, planning and deployment... a little like US corps' unanymous choice of zombifying IE6.

    3. Re:SSL is the key by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      China already has a "People's OS" based on Linux. I bet there's already a "People's Browser" packaged with it. The government could just mandate all Chinese e-commerce sites only support the special backdoored Chinese encryption standard, and block or DNS reroute the international sites to the Chinese copycat sites.

      The Chinese e-commerce revolution will become a walled-garden party for the Party.

    4. Re:SSL is the key by vlueboy · · Score: 3

      Even factoring in the People's OS, evidence shows that they have no OS chokehold over their supposedly oppressed citizens: By Microsoft's shamefaced anti-IE6 campaign figures, the Chinese are the kings of the IE6 holdout with 35% --a full 10% lead over the South Korean runner-ups. Other analysts placed China at 45% last November, when 15% was the world's average.

      An older article article stresses CCW Research's statement that 33% of new PC buyers uninstall that Linux derivative right off the bat, but the PC shop tends to do just prior to the sale that for them as a loyalty perk. More unsettling is that IE6 isn't the only IE... IE7 and IE8 numbers has to push the balance even further away from the People's OS --new pirated PC's don't easily get XP even in the USA, especially in the mobile form-factors. That counts for fewer Windows downupgrades to XP that would otherwise beef up IE6's numbers in China.

    5. Re:SSL is the key by vlueboy · · Score: 2

      Forgot to add this: back in 2007 MS had 90% OS share in China, which makes 'which Linux penetration do you have' just an exercise in futility.

      How much market share might MS have lost to Red Linux / People's OS supposing the govt mandate did take effect after that techrepublic article was written 3 years ago?

  8. American Corporations and Business Leaders in Bed by ItaloSuave · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What gets me, is how easily American international corporations and businesses - (think "big box" and "dollar stores" among other Importers) bed down with these totalitarian statist "one party rule" Chinese thugs. I cannot think of a single instance, whereby the Chinese Mandarin Rulers in Beijing have "lightened up" a little; not on Tibet; not on Hong Kong; not on Japan; not on Southeast Asia; not on the U.S. Navy in the Pacific Far East; and not on Taiwan, to name just a few concerns. Why we Americans do not treat Mainland China, like Fidel Castro's Cuba, or the Ayatollah's Iran, is beyond my ability to comprehend the "realpolitik" of our foreign policy and MBA business smarts. They have brand new Buick factories; we have Flint Michigan, Detroit, Michigan, and now, Madison, Wisconsin. When will the U.S. Dollar, and American political, financial, and business leaders "smarten up"? I hope it's not too late, when they do.

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  9. On a completely different note... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the excerpt:

    "China says [...] and expand broadband access for consumers."

    Am I the only idiot alarmed by the gradual replacement of "user" by "consumer" in current language about the Internet? Even on tech sites like Slashdot?

  10. We should all support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Falungong and a new revolution in China, shooting down the China Communist Party. Let's start a new protest in May, and let's call it Peony Revolution.

    * sit and watch how long /. is blocked *

    1. Re:We should all support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should know that if you have white skin and round eyes, the Chicoms don't give a hoot in hell what you have to say about Falungong in English.

      This is from personal experience.

  11. Digging their own grave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's next, they will print out revolutionary booklets and hand them out to the masses? The day the party falls I'm goign to have a party myself... a different kind of party of course.

  12. The Chinese govt may well be completely innocent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's absolutely no hard evidence that these attacks have been orchestrated by the Chinese government. As noted in the article, the actual source of DDOS attacks is very hard to pin down. The various hosts carrying out the attack may be based in one country, whilst the people directing it are in another country altogether. The article points out that those computers who get infected and become involuntary members of a bot-net are those which, among other things, might be running counterfeit software such as an operating system.Counterfeit software is very popular in China, and it is the most populous country on the planet, so it is fertile ground for recruiting members of a bot-net.

  13. Stop Up by anyaristow · · Score: 1

    I read that as "stop up internet administration". I think my version is more likely to come to pass.

  14. Good for them! by hallux.sinister · · Score: 1

    Soon they'll have Gb/s+ internet access to all those people, now if they could only figure out how to FEED THEM. But no, great job guys. Maybe if they're spending so much time online playing MMMMMORPG's, they won't notice they're starving to death. If only you could stream a bowl of rice...

  15. Wouldn't be surprised to see the same here... by ibsteve2u · · Score: 1

    After all, once they shut down NPR and PBS the only open and uncontrolled source of information that is readily accessible to all of the American people will be the 'net...and since the right doesn't like facts and the truth obscuring their message...their manipulation, that is...

    Well, if you're a gambling man I think you could call an eventual attempt by the Republicans to speed up the establishment of moral and behavioral norms that carry forward traditional American virtues ("virtues" which will be defined and redefined as required by that little cadre of wealthy conservatives who own the Republicans) a "sure thing".

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