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Utah To Teach USA is a Republic, Not a Democracy

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the only-two-of-three-wives-agree dept.

0ryan0 writes "Utah lawmakers passed a bill today to force public school teachers to teach that the USA is a republic, not a democracy, because a 'Democracy' would have 'Democrat' in it." The good news must be that all issues of unemployment, finance and social service must be resolved in Utah for their legislature to spend time on this. It must be a utopia!

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  1. These are people who still believe Joseph Smith by elrous0 · · Score: -1, Troll

    Do you expect a real education in a state where almost everyone believes the state was founded by fucking angels visiting con men pedophiles in caves?

    And before all you Christians have a good laugh at these backwards Mormons, keep in mind that *you* dipshits believe that a first-century illiterate peasant was the "Son of God" (as evidenced somehow by the fact that a backwoods Roman prefect was able to crucify this "god"). So don't laugh too hard.

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    1. Re:These are people who still believe Joseph Smith by elrous0 · · Score: -1, Troll

      So says your religious text (the same one that calls him a god). The actual non-religious history says that 1st century carpenters from Galilee were an almost exclusively illiterate and uneducated crowd. But maybe his god powers gave him the innate ability to read and write. I'm sure he could fly and had x-ray vision as well.

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    2. Re:These are people who still believe Joseph Smith by Brett+Buck · · Score: -1, Troll

      Only on the liberal bastion of slashdot can you expect a intolerant quasi-psychotic diatribe against something that the vast majority of the human race believes to be tagged "Insightful"

    3. Re:These are people who still believe Joseph Smith by jmorris42 · · Score: 0, Troll

      > Yeah, it means job security in the face of shitty pay and very uneven budget situations.

      For certain values of shitty. Teachers in Madison WI (focus of the current fight) are pulling down $100K in wages and benefits. Teachers here in my state would kill their mother for that pay and these spoiled children are bitchin' and moaning about having to actually kick in something from their paycheck to their retirement account? Considering the lifetime promise of employement after three years I'd bet over half the slashdot crowd reading this would at least off a hobo or two to get get in on such a sweet deal. And if even FDR says collective bargaining for government workers is a stupid idea why are we even having the argument over getting rid of a bad idea that the unions got rammed through in better times when we could afford to be stupid?

      > Due to changes in insurance, teachers make less today than they have in at least 30 years.

      They aren't chained to those desks. If they can make more in the private sector they should consider changing jobs. Just like everyone else reevaluates their career path from time to time. But considering an education track at most colleges leaves one barely qualified to be a school teacher they might need to get some real course credits first.

      > and if you think gutting the educational system is going to do anything but destroy America's future,

      No, I think gutting the current education system is the only hope of saving the next generation. It is broken and probably can't be fixed so drastic measures are called for. Vouchers as a path toward total privatization.

      > who has no understanding whatsoever of Keynesian economics.

      I understand Keynesian economics. But I think it is wrong at best and wicked at worst.

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  2. Re:Technically... by commodore64_love · · Score: -1, Troll

    >>>We are a representative democracy

    No.
    A Democracy is run by a simple 51% majority.. i.e. no laws but simple 51-49 votes by the legislature..... which means there are no laws to protect your individual rights. (If you're still not understanding, see Ancient Athens and how the Demos killed Socrates, because he exercised free speech, and they didn't like his opinion, so the majority voted to kill him.)

    >>>or a democratic republic

    Correct.
    .

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  3. Re:Technically... by theaveng · · Score: -1, Troll

    A Democracy is run by a simple 51% majority.. i.e. no laws but simple 51-49 votes by the legislature..... which means there are no laws to protect your individual rights. (If you're still not understanding, see Ancient Athens and how the Demos killed Socrates, because he exercised free speech, and they didn't like his opinion, so the majority voted to kill him.)

    Hey Commode64 -

    stop talking and stop demoing how mind-frakingly stupid you are. You know nothing

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  4. Re:Technically... by Cheech+Wizard · · Score: -1, Troll

    Technically the US is *currently* a fascist country (if you believe Wkipedia's definition of fascism) with a bit of "democracy" and a bit of "republic" thrown in for show. That isn't how the US started, but it's what it has become.

  5. Re:Technically... by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1, Troll

    The ignorance displayed in this story is astounding. One, you're arguing that the morphing has not occurred, when immediately afterwards, you argue that there was an original meaning (which requires a later meaning). Two, no one but historians and paleolinguists care what the meaning of a word 3000 years ago was. The discussion is what a democracy means right now, and any fucking dictionary will tell you that. Have you opened one recently?

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