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US House Subcommittee Votes To Kill Net Neutrality

angry tapir writes "A US House of Representatives subcommittee has voted in favor of a resolution to throw out the US Federal Communications Commission's recently adopted net neutrality rules. The communications subcommittee of the House Energy and Commerce Committee voted 15-8 along party lines for a resolution of disapproval that would overturn the FCC's rules."

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  1. It does what, now? by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Interesting
    FTA:

    Walden added. "These regulations will cost jobs," he said.

    I know, this is the standard-issue republican response to anything they don't like, but really could we have an explanation this time? Exactly how would net neutrality kill jobs?

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  2. Once you admit your an idiot... by goodgod43 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    FTA: "The FCC lacks legal authority to pass the rules, and government intervention would hurt the Internet, said Representative Greg Walden, the subcommittee's chairman and an Oregon Republican. "The Internet works pretty well -- it's the government that doesn't," he said." He's against government involvement. That I understand. But he's admitting that he, as a member of the government, doesn't really understand the problem. He's admitted to being the problem, so why should he have his way?

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    1. Re:Once you admit your an idiot... by XanC · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So... He shouldn't have his way, and you would make him be in charge of something he doesn't understand?

      Why in blazes would we expect people in government to be omniscient? It won't be. That's why we decided it shouldn't be omnipotent either, except that something like 50% of people have completely forgotten about that idea.

  3. Re:Enjoy. by C_amiga_fan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    >>>The left wing are in liberals, they're in favor of change

    You should not have been modded informative, since you're flat wrong. It is the "left wing" like Obama, Pelosi, and Reid who are bending over backwards to protect the "old guard" of record companies and hollywood from Downloaders and new Internet competition (like hulu). They've now made it crime even to search torrent sites (the FBI will suppeona your ISP records and investigate anybody they find suspicious). The left-wing government has also send-up a 1-800 number (advertised in walmart and on radio/tv), so you can report anyone you suspect of copying.

    Looks like the left wingers are as "sold out" to corporations as the right wing. Oh and it's also a mistake to think "conservative" means fear of change. I am a conservative, but I think we should legalize marijuana, make same-sex or multi-partner sex legal, and break-up the internet monopolies (Comcast, Verizon) to replace them with true competition. That's a heck of a lot of change!

    What we DO want is less nanny state. We don't think D.C. is qualified to tell us what lightbulbs to buy, where to send us to school, what minimum size our oranges should be (an idea imported from the EU), and so on. We prefer to make those choices ourselves.

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  4. Re:You overlooked something... by kaffiene · · Score: 5, Interesting

    His point was not that they have different party names, but that their policies are all but indistinguishable. Which is how it looks to me, too.

    As a New Zealander, I have to say that the Democrats are more right wing than our current ruling right wing party. You have nothing as left as our left wing Labour party, who are not especially leftist, by NZ or world standards. I'm not sure I that most Americans appreciate just how right wing, conservative, pretty, ill-educated, reactionary, selfish, jingoistic, partisan, anti-intellectual, anti-science and anti-reason US politics appears from the external point of view. I look to politics in the UK, Australia, France, Germany. I understand what's going on there, it looks similar to what's going on here. I look at US politics and I'm thinking "What the.,..."

    I really don't understand how a country that purports to be a democracy has allowed its political discourse to be so railroaded into one tiny spectrum of ideas. You have two parties which are largely indistinguishable. You change the name of the party in charge, but the ideas don't change. You guys really need to ditch first past the post elections - most of the rest of the world has already figured this out.

  5. Re:Enjoy. by khallow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually it would make for a statement that is accurate. His entire point is that American politicians and rhetoric are shifted far to the right relative to much of the western world overall.

    But he didn't say that. He made an absolute statement. Further, I find that a lot of statements about left versus right seem to be based on feeling rather than fact and in near complete ignorance of the tribulations and constraints that the politician faced. For example, someone might claim Obama is right wing because he triangulated to catch the center or didn't try to implement a single payer health care system. They didn't ask what a left wing politician, who wasn't a total waste of oxygen, would look like in context. Answer is that they probably wouldn't do anything differently.

    My view is that Obama would be a very left wing politician in an European country. But he's not in such a country so he can't act that way and get elected.

    As I see it, back in the 17th through 19th centuries, immigration to North America generated an ideological split that has lasted to this day between the US, my home country and Europe. Partly, it was that the more adventurous and criminal-minded ended up in the US and partly that the revolution that formed the US pretty much worked right the first time aside from notable, but temporary problems. We had the early failure of the Articles of Confederacy which was resolved within a decade with the current federation. And there was the conflict over slavery and North/South economic competition which ended with the "Late Unpleasantness". Since the end of the US Civil War, the US has been remarkably unified with a flexible society and democracy unlike those in most other countries. We didn't have to go through half a dozen republics.

    So it is with some bemusement that I consider the statements of many Europeans who might have a culture going back millennia, but a government going back at best half a century, perhaps even a mere 20 years in the case of the Eastern Bloc countries. So where does this great political wisdom come from?

    Wouldn't a European roll their eyes if am American were to boast about the 150 year old outhouse that his town has? How then are US citizens to take the similarly provincial claims of people from Europe who boast of their governments (particularly such things as services and cost of governance) given the extreme youthfulness of most of the governments in question? Sure, if you're from Switzerland or England, you can back that boast with some of the oldest governments in the world. But France? Germany? Italy? Spain? Greece? etc. There are a lot of braggarts who back young, untested governments.