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Why Men Don't Have Sensory Whiskers and Spiny Genitals

sciencehabit writes "Most male mammals wield a penis covered with spines made of keratin, the same material that forms fingernails, to sweep out competitors' sperm and irritate a female into ovulating. Even chimpanzees, our closest relatives, have penile spines. So why don't men? A new study suggests that this feature disappeared due to a chunk of DNA that went missing after our evolutionary divergence from chimps. The researchers have identified another DNA deletion that may have contributed to humans' bigger brains."

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  1. That would be useful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because I'm good at irritating females, yet somehow it doesn't lead to their ovulating.

    1. Re:That would be useful. by Meski · · Score: 2

      I'm seeing a new model of condom coming out, real soon now.

  2. Huh? by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

    What, you mean these spines on my penis aren't normal?

    I'd better go see a doctor.

    1. Re:Huh? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd better go see a doctor.

      Or a veterinarian.

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    2. Re:Huh? by Kelbin · · Score: 5, Funny

      What, you mean these spines on my penis aren't normal?

      I'd better go see a doctor.

      I think it means you should stop shagging hedgehogs.

    3. Re:Huh? by eln · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think it means you should stop shagging hedgehogs.

      Never!

    4. Re:Huh? by Bovius · · Score: 4, Funny

      These comments are just bristling with penis jokes.

    5. Re:Huh? by tloh · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What, you mean these spines on my penis aren't normal?.

      Let's hope it stays that way. from the article:

      "The interesting question - which for some reason the scientists didn't want to answer - is whether we could use a gene therapy to replace that deleted regulatory DNA. Basically, we'd add an activation switch to the whisker/spine sequence, flip it to "full blast," and start growing new body parts."

      I for one, do not think man should have his hands in his genes fiddling with himself. But then again, this is slashdot afterall, so...............

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    6. Re:Huh? by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Funny

      No need to get prickly. It's all in good humor, you don't have to be a dick.

  3. I don't have spines on my penis by scubamage · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...because I refrain from sex with porcupines and hedgehogs. And I didn't even have to RTFA.

    1. Re:I don't have spines on my penis by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...because I refrain from sex with porcupines and hedgehogs. And I didn't even have to RTFA.

      You mean like these 2 Russians

      Anton, 32, and Yevgeny, 30, residents of St. Petersburg, were spending their vacation in the United States with a group of friends, Life.ru website reports.

      At some point in their journey, the two got hold of a booklet listing the weirdest US laws. Since they were in Florida, their attention was drawn to a Florida law prohibiting sex with porcupines.

      After a good deal of whiskey, the Russians felt curious about what might have prompted the law, and went in search of the animal.

      Within one hour, a porcupine was found, and Anton and Yevgeny were drunk and brave enough to take off their pants and approach it.

      The next morning, both were standing at the Cedars Sinai clinic in Los Angeles, where amazed doctors plucked porcupine needles from their penises.

    2. Re:I don't have spines on my penis by g0bshiTe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why if they were in Florida were they taken to Cedars in CA?

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    3. Re:I don't have spines on my penis by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Insightful
      They were tourists, not residents of Florida. Tourists have been known to travel from place to place, and I guess after their little escapade, they were in a hurry to leave Florida, since if they had gone to a Florida hospital, they would have been arrested.

      It's in the paragraph immediately under the part I quoted:

      Had the two not fled from Florida quickly enough, they would have had to face the law they had breached.

      California *probably* doesn't have a law about sex with porcupines (Note to self - ask Charlie Sheen).

    4. Re:I don't have spines on my penis by billcopc · · Score: 2

      In Soviet Russia, space-time bend you.

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    5. Re:I don't have spines on my penis by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Insightful
      If you think that's bad, there was a debate a few decades ago that went on about the law prohibiting sex with dead people.

      One legislator pointed out that could be interpreted differently from the obvious intent - like "my [spouse] is dead in the sack", as opposed to deceased.

      So they wasted time debating the differences between "dead" and "deceased", instead of just rewording it ...

      Or like the municipal bylaw up here that tried to ban massage parlours, by defining "massage" as "the manipulation of another person's body" and making it a crime for "someone who is not licensed to practice massage." Really bad definition, since it would ban pretty much all physical contact, include those same stupid politicians shaking hands during elections, or doctors setting broken bones, or you wiping your kid's runny nose.

    6. Re:I don't have spines on my penis by nschubach · · Score: 2

      Off-Topic, I know... but I have yet to find the entertainment value in the whole Charlie Sheen debacle. Why must people continue bringing it up?

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    7. Re:I don't have spines on my penis by Kittenman · · Score: 2

      Please, I hope it's not that prevalent! That's somewhere around 6,800,000 people running around buggering sheep (or whatever they think will stand still for it). If they're all in Florida, that's 1/3 of the population. It's also means there are more sheep-fuckers in the U.S. than sheep!

      I live in New Zealand, you insensitive clod!!

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    8. Re:I don't have spines on my penis by tomhudson · · Score: 2

      No, they went to the hospital 3 time zones away the next day. They were probably planning on visiting California anyway - maybe to try to have sex with the buzzards in Death Valley or something ... you'd have to ask them. The story makes clear that their problems didn't end when they finally returned to Russia, either.

    9. Re:I don't have spines on my penis by Bengie · · Score: 2

      It's also means there are more sheep-fuckers in the U.S. than sheep!
      Sharing is Caring. Hey Jeffry, pass me that sheep when you're done.

  4. Only reason this made front page... by g0bshiTe · · Score: 4, Funny

    The phrase "wield a penis" appears in it.

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  5. Obvious answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    All the women had sex with the first freak born without them.

  6. Occam's Razor by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...because women, generally, don't want them? They by & large run the reproductive sweepstakes, even back in the "me big strong caveman, me conk woman on head" days when "consent" was a little more broadly interpreted.

    And which came first, male lack of spines, or female concealed ovulation?

    When analyzing the genetic record, how can one 'sort out' the distinction between DNA changes that have happened due to mutation, compared to the changes induced by broad and consistent female choice?

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    1. Re:Occam's Razor by joocemann · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The female chooses the mutant. The two things are not separate. The mutant male had no spines, so she chose him. Her sons had no spines, so other fems chose them. Fitness at work.

    2. Re:Occam's Razor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's all fine and dandy, but considering that presumably, females of other species don't want them, either, why do they still exist there?

    3. Re:Occam's Razor by mdielmann · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's all fine and dandy, but considering that presumably, females of other species don't want them, either, why do they still exist there?

      That's something of a presumption, given the fact that condoms can still be bought "ribbed for her pleasure".

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    4. Re:Occam's Razor by amnesia_tc · · Score: 2

      Not sarcastic pricks, spiny pricks. Can't you even read the damn article title?

  7. " ... irritate a female into ovulating" ...??? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most male mammals wield a penis covered with spines made of keratin, the same material that forms fingernails, to sweep out competitors' sperm and irritate a female into ovulating.

    Human females are different. They get irritated when ovulating. Before, during and after, in fact.

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    1. Re:" ... irritate a female into ovulating" ...??? by Pieroxy · · Score: 2

      Human females are different. They get irritated when ovulating. Before, during and after, in fact.

      So they are always irritated?

      Wow. You are sharp.

  8. Re:We didn't evolve from Chimps... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2

    The summary doesn't say we evolved from chimps. It says we have evolutionary divergence from chimps, which means that we evolved differently than the chimps did. Which obviously is true.

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  9. Re:We didn't evolve from Chimps... by Intron · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...we evolved from a common ancestor. That Ancestor is not a chimp but something completely different in terms of biological classification. That's like saying A GPS device evolved form a defibrillator.

    Since nobody suggested we evolved from chimps what is your point? The article says "divergence from" which just implies a common ancestor.

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  10. Re:That's NOT a shortened url. by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess I never really appreciated how lonely it could get during the Russian winter...

    "Hello, my name is Peggy."

  11. Pearly Penile Papules by deimios666 · · Score: 5, Interesting
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  12. Well this is a thorny subject... by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 3, Funny

    Which will no doubt take some barbed comments and pointed insights to thrust ourselves into a much deeper and greater understanding.

    Perhaps twice, after a 30 minute resting period.

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  13. Re:Summary, FYI by blair1q · · Score: 2

    As a bicycle rider let me assure you, both penile spines and extra-sensitive follicles would have a deleterious effect on the sport.

  14. There's a lot more going on here by smellsofbikes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First off, human males *do* have a mechanism to sweep out sperm from other males, consisting of the most visually obvious part of the male penis and protracted mechanical movement. We lost spikes, we evolved something else to do the same function. Secondly, there are many other mammals that have different methods for accomplishing the same thing: male squirrels have something like superglue that forms a plug after coitus, to prevent other males gaining access afterwards. (And female squirrels have claws and quite a bit of expertise in removing those same plugs, as you'd expect in any good arms race.) Likewise, many male lizards and insects avoid the problem by just staying connected until the female is ready to lay her eggs, which puts a whole lot of stress on the female during that period: they both get eaten pretty often.

    But if you really want to get weird, go look at insects like bedbugs, where males practice traumatic insemination: they don't go looking for an orifice, they make one, and let the female's body figure out what to do with the results. Or bees, where the barbs aren't there to stimulate ovulation but to make sure the penis breaks off and acts as a plug that can't be removed.

    And the next step weirder is hermaphrodites, where mating is a contest in which both wish to inseminate the other without getting inseminated, so mating strategies get seriously complicated. (The phrase 'penis fencing' has been used.)

    Anyone who is curious about this should read the brilliant book Promiscuity: the evolutionary history of sperm competition by Tim Birkhead. It will make you relieved to be human.

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    1. Re:There's a lot more going on here by smellsofbikes · · Score: 2

      That's called felching, and unless you're Gene Simmons you're not likely to be cleaning out the ones that are your actual competition.

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  15. Re:Pearly Penile Papules by kd5zex · · Score: 2

    Is there something so sacred about the penis that it can't be talked about rationally?

    No, not sacred at all. Although, I would prefer you refer to it as "pee-pee".

  16. Re:Oh you evolutionists by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

    When are you going to learn that Darwin doesn't exist!

    Quite. He died ages ago.

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  17. Re:Pearly Penile Papules by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Funny

    The home remedies in this previous version are worth the read.

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  18. Logical Evolutionary Step by rtb61 · · Score: 2

    A logical evolutionary step, where physical capability took second place to mental flexibility. Those groups of human where physical capability took precedence over mental flexibility died out when adverse environmental conditions left them less capable of surviving then the mentally flexible brethren who could throw rocks, start a fire and put on and take off a fur coat.

    The biggest driver for human evolution has likely been the recent (in evolutionary terms 2 million odd years) repeated ice ages giving precedence to mental agility of physical capability (being able to remain in a region and not having to pursue suitable climatic regions whilst stressed and against competition).

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