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US Judge Orders Twitter To Give Up WikiLeaks Data

cultiv8 writes "A US judge Friday ordered Twitter to hand over the data of three users in contact with the activist site WikiLeaks. 'US Magistrate Judge Theresa Buchanan rejected arguments raised by the ACLU, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and a host of private attorneys representing the Twitter account holders, who had asserted that their privacy was protected by federal law, the First Amendment, and the Fourth Amendment. Buchanan rejected each of the arguments in quick succession, saying that there was no First Amendment issue because activists "have already made their Twitter posts and associations publicly available." The account holders have "no Fourth Amendment privacy interest in their IP addresses," she said, and federal privacy law did not apply because prosecutors were not seeking contents of the communications.'"

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  1. Any lawyers in the house? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If somebody at Twitter deleted those accounts, or at least deleted the identifying information and it couldn't clearly be established who had done it... what could the US government do to Twitter as a corporation? Even a large fine would probably be worth it in the long run from all the goodwill and positive feedback they'd get from their users.

    saying that there was no First Amendment issue because activists "have already made their Twitter posts and associations publicly available."

    Its like McCarthyism all over again.

    1. Re:Any lawyers in the house? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > nor any other that suggests you have the right to anonymity for partaking in illegal activity or otherwise.
      >There is no reason whatsoever anyone NEEDS the write to post anonymous messages online -

      That's why you are posting as AC instead of using your real name? Cool, bro.
      May I know you SSN, your real name, your address and whatever private data you are hiding from me. Because apparently according to you privacy is an act of terrorism, unpatriotic, un-american, etc.

      Please return your geek license and repeat that Turing test. I wonder if you're really a reasonable human or a rep robot.

      In addition : there is no terrorist organisation involved. Or do you mean the armed forces who caused that "collateral damage" in Afghanistan?

    2. Re:Any lawyers in the house? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Private tweets and the identities of their recipients.

      This is more problematic for the Icelandic MP, as many of those tweets could have been part of government business - It's almost certain that foreign government workers will leave twitter now, being barred by their respective governments - assuming that they hadn't already been so. The ability for the government to get private data is also going to scare off a lot of normal users.

    3. Re:Any lawyers in the house? by GooberToo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If somebody at Twitter deleted those accounts, or at least deleted the identifying information and it couldn't clearly be established who had done it... what could the US government do to Twitter as a corporation?

      Who cares what they'd do to the corporation. The people who deleted the information would be charged with interference with a federal investigation, destruction of evidence, and likely a number of other associated charges. Furthermore, the fact someone would deem the information worthy of destruction actually bolsters the government's position the information is worth obtaining.

      .Its like McCarthyism all over again.

      No its not. Go learn some history. The comparison is idiotic.

    4. Re:Any lawyers in the house? by Kosi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      WikiLeaks only publishes information that already has been leaked. They don't send out spies to gather such information like those three letter agencies do.

      And none of the information published by WikiLeaks caused any real harm to or even endangered a person, nor was it suited to do so. The interest the US have here is about the same of a criminal not wanting to have his crimes and other stuff he is ashamed for published.

      btw, recently I stumbled over this fine sentence: "WikiLeaks is the intelligence agency of the people". :)

    5. Re:Any lawyers in the house? by Mr.Fork · · Score: 4, Interesting

      GooberToo - As a unbiased Canadian, you have no idea how right-winged your comments sound. I'm sorry, in order for your point to be valid - this "deleted information" and "interference" would have to come from a crime after conviction. Is there a conviction we don't know about? Apart from the Private who handed over the documents (and who's charges have yet to be proved in court), what are you're referring to? Has Assange been charged by a US District court, found guilty 'in absentia'? Is there something the rest of the civilized world do not know?

      Isn't your first amendment is a foundation and a pillar of democracy? (which a lot of countries view as a model for modern societies). This judge, BTW if you actually did your homework, is a republican who has more ties to the past Bush administration than Halliburton oil-blow-off valve for off-shore drilling rigs.

      The prosecution found a judge who would ignore the constitution to rubber stamp what ever they needed.

      It's a sad day for US democracy - I'm sorry to say it, but isn't the USA suppose to be a model of democracy? Why is the USA appearing more and more like a totalitarian regime?

      --
      Management is doing things right; leadership is doing the right things. - Peter F. Drucker
  2. The right to speak anonymously by erroneus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The right to speak anonymously in order to protect one's self from retaliation from individuals or oppressive, tyrannical or vengeful governments is an ESSENTIAL part of the first amendment protection. So the judge is simply wrong about this. Having the right to speech is only part of the first amendment. Having the right to free speech without fear is the rest of it.

  3. I think the judge made two errors by Omnifarious · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, the point is not that this will effect the participants ability to say whatever they said. The point is that it will effect future participants willingness to say things. It's about the chilling effect, not about the given participants first amendment rights exactly.

    Secondly, I do have a privacy interest in my IP address. If I didn't, then why do services like Tor exist to hide it? If nobody cared about that, then nobody would use Tor, but many people clearly do. So people do have a privacy interest in their IP address. So the 4th amendment does apply.

  4. Re:Land of the FREE !!!!!! by unity100 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    its not freedom of the press - its freedom of speech.

    if you dont have freedom to know, and talk about what you know, then it means that you dont have freedom of speech, period. no amount of legal beautifying can change that fact.

  5. Re:Land of the FREE !!!!!! by causality · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a long standing precedent that one has the freedom to publish anything first and then face punishment after the fact. Did you think this was something new?

    Yes, of course. Likewise, it's a long standing precedent that one has the freedom (hypothetically) to rob a bank and then face punishment after the fact. Did you think that was something new?

    If "see, we punished these guys for saying that, and we'll do the same to you if you say that" isn't prior restraint then what would be?

    --
    It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Einstein
  6. Re:Chilling effect by swalve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole point of the first amendment is "congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech". That doesn't guarantee anonymity. The only thing that guarantees anonymity is the person exercising the freedom of speech and what steps they take to be anonymous. Using an interconnected computer network without taking steps beyond a clever nickname does no such thing.

  7. Re:Damn you, George W. Bush! by Cinnamon+Whirl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As an non-US citizen.....

    I would expect you to stop putting spending bills and prisoner transfers bills into one package.

    It seems such a weird way of doing business. If a measure can't stand on its own, it shouldn't stand at all.

  8. Re:Chilling effect by TheoMurpse · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a lawyer, I wish articles like this would link the decision at the very beginning or the very end of the article always. Here, no thanks to the /. summary!

    Decisions relying on anti-"chilling effect" policy reasons for the conclusion tend to be at the appellate level, not the district level, and especially not at the magistrate level. Magistrates are appointed for a short number of years and are not Article III judges. Doing what the Article III judges (district, circuit, SCOTUS) say is of the utmost importance to them since Magistrates are basically merely auxiliaries or para-judges. So, no, magistrate judges will almost never rely on public policy concerns such as "chilling effects" to decide an issue. This is my experience as someone who used to work directly for a federal magistrate judge doing research for him.

    Now, I humbly offer my analysis of the decision (apologies for it not being perfect writing, but it's Saturday, and the goal is just to shed a little light on what actually is going on in the decision):

    Facts

    1. Gov't requests Twitter records that do not include the contents of posts. Namely, it requests ID, contact info, registration information, records of connection time, etc.
    2. Court orders Twitter to turn over info
    3. Twitter users argue to "get rid of" ("vacate") the order to disclose this info.

    Issues

    1. Does the Stored Communications Act give power to Twitter users to try and get order vacated (i.e., do Twitter users have "standing" under the SCA)
    2. was the order properly issued
    3. does the order violate 1st Amendment
    4. does order violate 4th Amendment
    5. One user is Icelandic and a gov't official, so does "international comity" require vacation of the order

    Standing under SCA
    No, they dont. SCA gives standing only if contents of communications are requested. The distinction between contents and records (non-content data such as ID, access time, etc.) is explicitly made in the law itself, so this isn't just semantics. Government wins issue 1.

    Proper issuance of order
    Users argue the government did not follow proper procedure to get the order. Users argue info requested is not relevant and material to investigation. Court says it is.

    First Amendment
    Users argue it creates a chilling effect on free speech by creating a "map of association." Court says that the association between these users was made publicly by the users themselves already, so no chilling effect in this instance can be had. This is where the whole "publicly policy" issue would come into play in an appellate court, but not in an Article I magistrate court. While it could have a chilling effect on other associations (which I personally doubt, as, IIRC from my use on Twitter, everyone's Twitter friend list is publicly accessible anyway), it's not for the magistrate court to decide. That would be for the Circuit or Supreme Courts.

    Fourth Amendment
    Users argue it's a warrantless search, and the requested IP addresses are "intensely revealing" as to location, including location within a home and movements within. OK, wtf is this bullcrap? Turning over an IP address will tell the police which room in a house you were posting in? That sounds really specious.

    In any case, court enters into a "reasonableness" analysis as is de rigueur with Fourth Amendment issues--does the act infringe on expectation of privacy society consideres reasonable? There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in data voluntarily turned over to third parties. This may not be true if the EULA specifies that data will be kept private, but the court doesn't address this issue because the argument was never made. Instead, the court says: Look, you gave Twitter your IP address, so you can't reasonably expect it to be kept secret from police. Other courts have apparently said si