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EvoMouse Turns Your Digits Digital

cylonlover writes "With the plethora of mouse alternatives available or in development you'd be forgiven for thinking the humble computer mouse was some kind of torturous device inflicted upon computer users. But despite a multitude of challengers, the mouse has maintained its dominance while remaining largely unchanged since its unveiling in 1968. Now there's another alternative cursor relocation device set to hit the market called the evoMouse that turns just about any flat surface into a virtual trackpad with your finger as the pointer."

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  1. Trackball Explorer by fortunato · · Score: 2

    I'd be happy if Microsoft re-released the Trackball Explorer. It's never been bested as far as trackballs go.

  2. I got one that works everywhere ... by sammyF70 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    using a logitech trackball right now, works on every surface, needs extremely little space, I don't need to push a mouse, and it looks nice and not like something out of a japanese manga for pre-schooler ... so ... what's the point of the evomouse again?

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    1. Re:I got one that works everywhere ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes this works for you. For me I would rather stab myself in the eyes than use a trackball. That means that the demand for this product will be non-zero and thus it can potentially be sold for profit. So that is the point of the evomouse to be sold for profit to people who are not you.

    2. Re:I got one that works everywhere ... by sammyF70 · · Score: 2

      Ever tried any modern one? I'm using a Logitech Trackman Marble Mouse at the moment.I *do* have a regular mouse (MX Revolution) too, as for certain tasks (many types of games for example) a trackball really doesn't cut it, but it is very easy on the wrist and the hand, and as precise as any mouse I ever used. On the plus side, you really don't need any particular surface or area. Touchpads, on the other hand, are just painfull in every aspect.

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    3. Re:I got one that works everywhere ... by chammy · · Score: 2

      Logitech's marble mouse is indeed pretty nice. Especially if you bind a side button to scroll, the momentum feels excellent when web browsing. You don't really get the kind of tactile feedback a trackball has with a regular mouse or touchpad when you're moving over large distances.

    4. Re:I got one that works everywhere ... by rust627 · · Score: 3, Informative

      My mother is 84 and has many problems with her wrists., So i bought her a Logitech trackman marble. she loves it, now she uses the computer more and doesnt end up in pain. I love mine, because i dont have to drag it all over the desk to use the computer, and when i am doing work that requires delicacy i can position the pointer, then remove my fingers from the ball and click, (how many times have you moved the mouse a fraction as you clicked), So for me, a trackball is ideal. Its not for everyone, and for those who say "if a trackball is so good why doesnt every one use them ?"unfortunately , like VHS vs Beta, Like Microsoft VsLinux, or Microsoft Vs Mac, Just because more people use something it is not necessarily better, just more common.

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  3. Reminds me of ... by martin-boundary · · Score: 2

    Reminds me of the virtual laser keyboard that came out a few years back. Is there anyone out there who actually bought one and used it regularly (or, like, more than 5 minutes)?

    1. Re:Reminds me of ... by VortexCortex · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Reminds me of the virtual laser keyboard that came out a few years back. Is there anyone out there who actually bought one and used it regularly (or, like, more than 5 minutes)?

      Yeah, I have one. Funny thing about typing is that fingers need a resistance buffer (ala buckling springs) so that you can rest your fingers without triggering a key-press, and get feedback (even, mmm audible clacks) to notify you to stop pressing.

      I have tried using the laser keyboard, and it fails in the same way that all touch-pads & touch-screens do.

      • No resting position
      • No physical response to keypress
      • No pressure buffer

      By "pressure buffer" I mean that pressure goes from none to 100% ALL STOP on each press using any touch surface. This is retarded behavior (seriously, retards my typing speed considerably), and causes more repetitive stress due to the equal/opposite forces slamming into the end of your fingers each time you press.

      Set your keyboard aside, and pretend to type on the desk -- It HURTS after an hour or so. The mechanical keyboards & mice are truly far superior. My normal speed of 80wpm drops to 50wpm with the laser keyboard. Hint: I can touch type, but the laser can't notify me by touch where the damn keys are at...constant readjustments are required.

      On the topic of pointer input...

      Hello touch interface users: Welcome to the next round of: Rub your fingertips off (or alternatively: Really Expensive Writers Cramp).

      Even if you put down a flexible mat in front of the EvoMouse to reduce finger impact strain, and grease it up to reduce the finger friction burns, you still have to deal with either "flying fingers" or "repetitive keyboard to pointer reach" -- No restful position.

      Look where your pointer hand is even when you're reading: Resting on the mouse / trackball / keyboard, ready to scroll past this nonsense at the press of a button or roll of a wheel (Hint: remap Capslock to Ctrl and use ctrl + IJKL (CHTN on Dvorak) as arrow keys... no more arrow key reach stress). Touch users will be hovering their finger above the scroll region, or else will have to reach to scroll.

      I prefer pen-tablets, mice, trackballs, keyboards... Why anyone thinks that an "insubstantial" interface is intuitive is beyond me -- we have nerves tuned for mechanical manipulation and touch feedback. Here's a brilliant Idea: Let's utilize our senses / nerves, not make them less important; Let's also stop labeling input methods that require even more motor skills than finger twitch, wrist move as "innovative".

      The Wacom Intuos4 pen-tablet comes with a "wireless" mouse that doesn't take batteries -- NO, I said NO batteries, not "it's a rechargeable bullshit battery that you have to charge" -- I mean, It works just like the damn pen does, the tablet senses the mouse.

      I just move the mouse aside and begin drawing with the pen to switch back and forth. No wires (except on the pad itself), and Bonus: Gimp recognizes the pen-tip, pen-eraser, and mouse all as separate pointers with their own tool selection auto activated when they are above the pad. Draw, flip pen to erase, grab mouse to arrange & composite.

      I get both: The precision & natural feel of a pressure sensitive "touch" pen-tablet, and the restful comfort & familiarity of a mouse for every day point / click / scrollwheel.

      Touch / Laser input be damned. You're right, it's neat for 5min -- Keep the box & re-gift them; These touch input devices are a toys, not real "work" devices (by this I mean that if you do most of your work by key/pointer input touch devices are horribly inefficient & inaccurate at best -- The touch devices would probably be fine for a manager or C*O who doesn't require comfortable

  4. No thanks! by Retron · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't stand trackpads (of any nature), they feel unnatural and clunky to me. Things such as a precision drag and drop across the desktop seem almost impossible for me and no, I don't have massive chunky fingers! It's a pity that the other two methods of control on a laptop (Trackpoint and trackball) seem to have fallen out of favour, with the notable exception of Lenovo (which owes that to its IBM heritage of course). I did once see a review of a laptop which had a mini-mouse pop out on a stalk, but that wouldn't have been very comfortable to use.

    The thought of using a trackpad out of choice on a desktop (even if it's a fancy virtual trackpad) is a turn-off to me. I'll be keeping my Microsoft mouse, thank you! (I just wish you could still buy the original Intellimouse Explorer, that was the most comfortable mouse I've ever used....)

    1. Re:No thanks! by opinionbot · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Agreed. Especially for small laptops / netbooks, I find trackpads extremely annoying to use and far prefer to use Trackpoints. As your hands are already resting on the keyboard, it's a tiny movement to get to the mouse, and it doesn't feel so cramped. The main annoyance of trackpads though is that when typing it's extremely easy to accidentally hit the trackpad, shifting the cursor or focus (yes on some laptops you can disable the mouse when typing, but I don't find it a very good solution). I can see that trackpoints are no use at all for games, but neither are netbooks and generally when I'm at a computer I'm typing.

      Unfortunately we seem to be in a minority, and finding laptops with trackpoints is really hard. Impressed with the sturdiness of Lenovo laptops (still using an IBM-branded X41 from 2006), but you do pay through the nose for them...

      In summary: Bring back Trackpoint (and get off my lawn)!

  5. This is a must have by hardtofindanick · · Score: 2

    ... that turns just about any flat surface into a virtual trackpad ...
    Great, I don't need my trackball anymore. Oh wait...

    Described by its creators Celluon as the next evolution of the mouse, the evoMouse works in a similar way to the Invisible Computer Mouse we looked at last year – but is infinitely cuter.
    Awww...cute. I am glad you did not mean a mouse on streoids, like those rats in Fallout 3.

    Two infrared sensors that form the eyes of the small animal-shaped device track the user's finger movements
    Great, I don't have to use my fingers anymore. Oh wait...

    The evoMouse can even be used for drawing – or is that finger painting?
    This should help let the Van Gogh in you out. Your fat fingers can't possibly get in the way.

    while a handwriting recognition feature lets you write with your finger or a pen.
    Phew, I thought you just said "your finger or a penis". Imagine that.

    the evoMouse could also help reduce repetitive stress injuries like Carpal Tunnel Syndrome by allowing users to hold their hand in a natural position.
    Yes, in its natural position I always point my finger forward and down.

    We are witnessing the making of the future from the first page of /.

  6. Sandpaper! by macraig · · Score: 4, Funny

    I choose sandpaper as my evoMouse work surface. The added bonus is that when my wife is murdered and they suspect me as the culprit there won't be any fingerprints for them to lift off the hammer.

  7. Ergonomics by Feinu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Accuracy aside, the ergonomics for touch based devices are terrible. Repetitive large movements in the wrists and fingers are bad whether you're moving a mouse around or dragging your finger on a surface. High resolution mice which only require an inch of movement to cross an entire screen provide good accuracy while minimising wrist and finger movement.

  8. Latency by fleeped · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you notice the video, there's quite a bit of latency between the physical action and the response on the screen. Which is kinda normal as this thing needs to do quite a bit of processing. From my experience with another mouse that for some reason had latency, slow response is *very, very* frustrating. So, no matter how cute it is, I can't see it succeeding in the market, not even as a device for a niche market.
    I can't see it being very good for the fingers as well. Ok we use smartphones using fingers on touchscreens quite a bit, but for a device that boasts that it's the evolution of mouse they should have thought that 2-3 minutes (smartphone quick use, on the road, whatever) is very different from desktop/laptop use (could be hours).
    Get this mouse == Welcome to my-fingers-hurt-and-input-is-now-freakin-slow world.

  9. Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    New device for sale soon? Check
    Summary direct copypasta? Check
    No testing or analysis performed? Check
    Posted by Timothy? Check

    Classic Slashvertisement. Come on editors, you're supposed to be better than this (I know, I must be new here, but I did say 'supposed').

  10. Needs a screen by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 2

    I'm puzzled why this doesn't have a pico-projector. With no physical feedback, seeing what you're touching would make it a much more useful device. Especially after the hardware-hacker community got stuck into it.

    For example, even if it isn't accurate/fast enough to replace the mouse, it can add another layer of input that might still result in sales from the first gen device. (Especially if it didn't steal focus from the main screen.)

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  11. A mouseless mouse - Again! by irp · · Score: 2

    Reminds me of my fingerworks plate - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FingerWorks - "we have reinvented the mouse". Nice, but the same basic problem.

    No physical buttons! This is important, because it means that button presses must be made by interpreting the users gestures. And with interpretation comes misinterpretation. Software sometimes guesses wrong. And if it does that in an "unpredictable" or "random" way (I know it is an algorithm, but "random" from the user point of view) the user will (consciously or unconsciously) adapt by change his behavior - i.e. by emphasizing or repeating the gesture. This is annoying.

    With a physical button there is no interpretation. You can feel it has been pressed. It may be by accident, but you know you're the one responsible for the click.

    Another problem in my opinion is there is no weight. This is usually described as a feature, but in my experience the weight of the mouse gives stability and increases precision and for me this helps to reduce fatigue - I tend to overshoot or jitter and have to correct myself or do things slower when I don't have a physical object to give mass in my hand.

    And finally; no scrollwheel. I don't notice that I use it, but whenever I encounter an old mouse without the wheel I realize how much I depend on it.

  12. Not convinced by the 'Cute' tag by Tigger's+Pet · · Score: 2

    I like to use my laptop in bed sometimes while my wife is watching some crap on TV. I can just imagine her expression when I rest the EvoMouse between her breasts so that I can use her stomach as the 'Virtual Trackpad'.
    "It's OK Darling, the instruction manual tells me I can use... oh crap - it said 'Any flat surface'.".

  13. Re:Feh... how about a new paradigm? by pinkushun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    New Paradigm: Vi key bindings for all navigation. Really, its great! Try some web browser addons for this, you'll see what I mean.