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How Is Obama Doing On Open Government?

An anonymous reader writes "OMB Watch today published an in-depth analysis of the Obama administration's progress on a wide-ranging set of open government recommendations. Key findings of the report include strong and consistent leadership from the White House on government openness and meaningful utilization of e-government and Web 2.0 technologies. But there has been no high-level effort to improve electronic records management and preservation, and the implementation of improved Freedom of Information Act policies has lagged."

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  1. Well....he certainly talks a good game by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank. " - Barack Obama, October 27, 2007

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9ywEFRQkQ

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    1. Re:Well....he certainly talks a good game by revscat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Reality: Recent history seems to show that there are two things no President has the power to affect: the Pentagon and Wall Street. Presidents can only begin new actions. They cannot end or meaningfully decrease existing ones where boots are on the ground.

      We'll see what happens with Libya. If it turns into a Serbian-style air campaign, then we will be in and out relatively quickly. But if the Marines or Army get involved, we will be there indefinitely.

    2. Re:Well....he certainly talks a good game by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There seem to be people that think the government is taking over everything and there are those that think the corporations are taking over. Sorry, but people that see the government "taking over" are delusional. There is plenty of evidence, on the other hand, that the corporations are at best APPROVING everything that is the government is doing (especially in congress) and at worst DICTATING everything that is happening. I find the threat of a country run solely at the whims of what the corporate elite want MUCH more frighting than some non-existent fear the the government is going to take over everything. (Oddly, the same people complaining about government getting involved in everything are for restricting access to abortions. Try to figure that one out...)

    3. Re:Well....he certainly talks a good game by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...you think it is in your own interest to manage world affairs! I assure you, it is not.

      Maybe if the rest of the world would step in to help rather than cower in the face of adversity, we (Americans) wouldn't have to be all that involved. At least France has the balls to stand up to Muammar Gaddafi. Which is more than I can say for our current administration.

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    4. Re:Well....he certainly talks a good game by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      At least France has the balls to stand up to Muammar Gaddafi.

      By "stand up to" do you mean "shake their finger at him"? France has plenty military assets to put up a no-fly zone all on their own if they wanted to. So do the Arab states. So do a lot of countries.

      But since we're constantly being told "we're broke" by the majority in the House of Representatives (from whom all funding comes) how are we Americans supposed to do anything about Gaddafi if we can't afford the fuel for our planes to get over there?

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    5. Re:Well....he certainly talks a good game by atriusofbricia · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And then he got intel fit for a President and reversed his position. He must have good reason - ultimately I trust the man's judgment. I'm sure I would reverse my stance as well if I heard some compelling evidence to do so.

      Or he's a stuffed shirt politician who could give any other politician a run for their money in the area of saying what is needed to get elected.

      Even if he did start his campaign for President virtually 10 minutes after becoming one, he was a Senator on the Foreign Relations committee. Do you suppose that might have included access to some of that special President intel? hmmm?

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    6. Re:Well....he certainly talks a good game by ArcherB · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Work is lying to you. ObamaCare does nothing more than allow you to buy insurance from a private company. Any price increase after a year or so ago is just plain profiteering. This is why we need healthcare reform in this country not the weak watered down insurance reform bill.

      gp needs to quit listening to Beck, Palin and other nut jobs and learn how to read.

      Really. That's it? So if "ObamaCare does nothing more than allow you to buy insurance from a private company", why does it cost over a trillion dollars? And if "ObamaCare does nothing more than allow you to buy insurance from a private company.", why is it over 2000 pages long? You just wrote the whole thing in one sentence.

      So, either you are incredibly gullible, woefully ignorant, or the government is much more inefficient that I could possibly imagine. Actually, I think someone is lying their ass off to this guy, but it's not his work.

      Maybe you should listen to Beck and Palin more because whoever you are listening to has steered you horribly wrong. You actually believe that it costs a trillion dollars and over 2000 pages to pass a law that "does nothing more than allow you to buy insurance from a private company" and then you call Beck and Palin "nutjobs"? That's the funniest thing I've heard all day!

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    7. Re:Well....he certainly talks a good game by demonlapin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      William Safire, before he was a New York Times columnist, worked as a speechwriter for Nixon. He wrote a book called Before the Fall about the pre-Watergate Nixon White House, and it's a pretty interesting set of stories about the man. One particularly informative anecdote is the story of Nixon trying to tear down a "temporary" building that had been erected on Pennsylvania Ave during WW2 as an office building (for the Navy, IIRC), on the grounds that it was unnecessary and architecturally inappropriate for the setting. It took the full might of the Presidency two years to get it torn down - much of which was spent fighting not Congress, but the Federal bureaucracy.

    8. Re:Well....he certainly talks a good game by hedwards · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Higher healthcare premiums? I'm going to have to call bullshit on that. You act as though they weren't rising out of control prior to healthcare reform. Everybody with half or more of a brain knew that in the short term premiums were going to go up. It's inevitable when you're requiring insurance companies to stop with the pre-existing condtions and booting people for getting sick. And this is the first year that they're required by law to spend at least 80% on actual healthcare for covering individuals or small businesses and 85% for those issuing large polices.

    9. Re:Well....he certainly talks a good game by Belial6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Once the full disaster that was Bush was visible, there was no question that the Democrats would run either a woman or a black person. The only surprise was that it wasn't a black woman. I'm not saying that Obama wasn't the best choice the public as allowed to choose from, but if you think his color worked against him, you are very naive.

  2. Is he open? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not sure. Let me ask him whether or not the NSA ran a warrantless-wiretapping operation at AT&T, and whether or not the CIA ferried people to other countries for torture. Someone dedicated to openness would undoubtedly answer that question clearly and unambiguously, right?

  3. Re:HAHA, oh wow by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Funny

    you've stopped beating your wife?

    We don't have the time to play Settlers of Catan these days, so yes.

  4. Summary by whoever57 · · Score: 3

    Big on words, implementation "lagging"

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  5. barley half meeting FOIA goals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/barely-half-of-agencies-meeting-obamas-foia-request-goals-study-says/2011/03/11/ABImgsT_story.html

    Though 49(of 90) agencies and departments complied with the study’s authors, 17 others — including the Transportation Department and U.S. Postal Service — provided no documents and two withheld information. Another 17 agencies — including the departments of Commerce, Energy, Justice and State — provided no final response, and four smaller agencies never acknowledged receipt of the FOIA request. The figures have improved significantly from last year, when just 13 of 90 agencies complied.

    “At this rate, it’ll be the end of his term before the agencies do what Obama asked them to do on the first day,” said Thomas S. Blanton, director of the National Security Archive.

  6. Re:Okay... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You don't do this over a private.
    You do it over rule of law, rules of evidence, and principles that were established as the fundamental basis of legitimate government - in tradition and precedent that goes back to at least the thirteenth century.

    Again, you forgot to use the word "allegedly", to modify the second verb in your final sentence.

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  7. Bang-up job... by benjamindees · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gitmo is still open so that counts right?

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  8. How Is Obama Doing On Open Government? by the-matt-mobile · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How Is Obama Doing On Open Government? - About like he's doing on all his other promises - bringing the troops home, closing Gitmo, etc. etc. Why we ever elected a hope-peddling amateur and expected any different I'll never know. Especially during such a precarious time in our nation's history. Maybe I'm wrong and Wall Street, Egypt, Japan and Lybia really do need their own 'community organizers' to solve their woes.

  9. Re:Okay... by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well -- I haven't seen a coherent argument that he should not be prosecuted, given what he's supposed to have done. I'm open to persuasion, but it seems to me that as long as he's given a fair chance to defend himself (including being detained under reasonable conditions), he *should* face trial.

    Right off the bat I'll grant you the "Collateral Murder" video. I don't think Wikileak's spin on those tapes is fair or accurate, but I'll grant that atrocities *do* happen and that a reasonable person looking at the video might conclude that's what it showed. It's at least defensible to go public with that tape, given the assumption that the Army has no safe and effective mechanism for dealing with these matters.

    The diplomatic cables and the Afghan war documents are a different matter. I don't think these turned out to be as damaging as Manning's more hysterical detractors claim, but I still think Manning did something wrong. He took a huge body of data, more than he could possibly have understood in detail himself, then he sent him to somebody he didn't actually know so that person could go on a fishing expedition. That was grossly irresponsible.

    If he had a piece of information in his hands that he was familiar with and he thought it was something that the public ought to know, then I'd call him a whistle-blower and I'd support him. But teams of expert reporters took months to comb through the mountains of random stuff he leaked, just to figure what was there. Manning could not possibly have known what he setting in motion, and he must have known that. Until I learn otherwise, I'd call him a chaos-monger, not a whistle-blower.

    The question isn't whether good things happened as the result of what Manning did, although I do think some good things have happened. And to my knowledge there's no documented evidence of any serious, irreparable harm resulting. But Manning's actions were unconscionably reckless, and a violation of a professional trust. I believe the Manning case shows we probably can afford to be a lot more open with information than we are, and that's a positive outcome. But a serious potential for harm to innocent third parties was there and Manning took no steps to prevent that. Even where some parties deserve exposure for being, as Assange calls them, "collaborators", the same principle of justice applies to them as to Manning. They deserve a fair chance to defend themselves before they are punished.

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  10. Re:Okay... by Mitreya · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Manning is a fucking traitor, nothing less. What else do you call someone who steals secret documents and gives to someone who is not supposed to have them?

    Manning is an alleged fucking traitor. Just because some dude pointed a finger at him, does not make him a convicted traitor. Once he is convicted (by the military court, I assume?), you may call him a traitor.

    If you read the parent post (re-read it), you would notice that he is not arguing that Manning is a good guy. He is saying that no matter what he is (even when he is most likely convicted), our constitution does not allow for cruel and unusual punishment that is being inflicted on Manning (read the details in the news). Once he is convicted he should go to a regular jail, traitor or not. Unless he is given a death penalty, in which case he might be executed.
    But what is happening now to him is presumably unconstitutional as there is no option that allows his current treatment. Not even if Manning is convicted of every crime he is accused of and a few more will regular abuse be an acceptable punishment.

  11. Re:Okay... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, Manning gave them to a Foreign National.

    And all your clever (?) rhetoric won't obscure the fact that he was part of a military organization that was under an oath to behave in a certain fashion. And don't get all Godwinny about it. If you do, you're full of shit and YHL.