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RMS On Header Files and Derivative Works

tomhudson writes "In this email from 2003, Richard Stallman says 'I've talked with our lawyer about one specific issue that you raised: that of using simple material from header files. Someone recently made the claim that including a header file always makes a derivative work. That's not the FSF's view. Our view is that just using structure definitions, typedefs, enumeration constants, macros with simple bodies, etc., is NOT enough to make a derivative work. It would take a substantial amount of code (coming from inline functions or macros with substantial bodies) to do that.' This should help end the recent FUD about the Android 'clean headers.'"

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  1. Re:How the fuck do we define a "substantial amount by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How the fuck do we decide what a "substantial amount of code" actually is? Where exactly is the boundary?

    Free Software zealot: "substantial amount of code" == one line

    Corporate America: "substantial amount of code" == entire program.

    IP Lawyers: "substantial amount of code" == new Porsche.

  2. Re:Copyrights on facts by binkzz · · Score: 5, Funny

    #define ERR_ANY -1
    #define ERR_SEEK -2
    #define ERR_WRITE -3

    is not copyrightable.

    What about:

    #define ERR_PS3 0x46DCEAD317FE45D80923EB97E4956410D4CDB2C2

    :-"

    --
    'For we walk by faith, not by sight.' II Corinthians 5:7
  3. Re:Stallman has changed his mind by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Funny

    Theo, is that you?

    --
    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  4. Re:end FUD ? by Chemisor · · Score: 2, Funny

    > unless you know of a higher court than the Supreme Court of the USofA

    Yes, I wonder what God thinks about this whole issue.

  5. Re:Smackdown, on Florian by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who else is fed up by Florian Mueller's antics?

    I sense a new slashdot poll

    What do you think of Florian Mueller's antics?
    [_] Florian Mueller's blog is the new goatse link. "Oww! My MIND! Quick, get the brain bleach!"
    [X] I just want to know who's paying for it.
    [_] "I'm an anonymous coward and I approve" -- Florian Mueller
    [_] "Damn, forgot to check 'Post Anonymously' -- Florian Mueller
    [_] Hey, it generates page hits and sells ads -- editors
    [_] I am Steve Ballmer and I approve of Florian Mueller's antics
    [_] In Soviet Russia, everyone trolls Florian Mueller.
    [_] Florian Mueller had an original idea that wasn't a troll. It died of loneliness.
    [_] A grue ate him. Nothing of consequence was lost.
    [_] 104% of 42 respondents preferred CowboyNeal.

    This latest attempt to generate FUD pretty much seals the deal - his 15 minutes are SO over.

  6. Re:end FUD ? by Belial6 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I agree with RMS on this one. So, now you have it from the highest source.

  7. Re:end FUD ? by MachDelta · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Clearly this evolution thing needs more bug testing. I've created a race largely composed of idiots."