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Chicago's Willis Tower To Become Vertical Solar Farm

An anonymous reader writes "The tallest building in the United States is set to become a soaring vertical solar farm, as Pythagoras Solar just launched a project to emblazon the building's glass façade with transparent photovoltaic panels. The new windows, dubbed high power density photovoltaic glass units, are a clever hybrid technology that lays a typical monocrystalline silicon solar cell horizontally between two layers of glass to form an individual tile. An internal plastic reflective prism directs angled sunlight onto the solar cells but allows diffuse daylight and horizontal light through. The high-profile project will begin on the south side of the 56th floor and could grow up to 2 MW in size — which is comparable to a 10-acre field of solar panels."

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  1. Sears Tower by torstenvl · · Score: 5, Informative

    The building is now and forever will be called the Sears Tower. No locals call it the Willis Tower. No non-locals should either. It's a landmark and a piece of architectural history. Like the headline says, it is "Chicago's." In this sense, it will always belong to the public, and the ability of some random foreign insurance firm to finagle some temporary naming rights will never change that.

    1. Re:Sears Tower by shadowrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I read the summary and thought, "WTF is this willis tower? Is it somehow bigger than the sear's tower?"

    2. Re:Sears Tower by hedwards · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Naming rights on a building after it's completed is completely stupid. One of our local buildings has been renamed several times, and you find people referring to it by all of those names, even though the most recent naming is back to what it was originally and was nearly a decade ago.

      Personally, I refuse to call it anything other than the Sears Tower, just because I think it's asinine to rename a world renowned landmark.

    3. Re:Sears Tower by Labcoat+Samurai · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And this is what's annoying. Reputable news sources will feel an obligation to use the official name, while at the same time likely realizing that no one wants to call it that. Ends up being divisive. It'd be nice if more news sources would take a stand and just use the old name. It'd be a nice way to express how futile it really is to sell naming rights to an iconic structure or location.

    4. Re:Sears Tower by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Informative

      And here I always thought Chicago's John Hancock building, which was built first, was known as the John Hancock.

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  2. Re:Transparent? by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Only transparent at certain frequencies, e.g. the frequencies of visible light.

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  3. Old saying by snsh · · Score: 3, Funny

    People who live in glass towers shouldn't sow photons.

  4. Re:Transparent? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Informative

    If they are transparent, how can they capture the light and convert the photons to electrons?

    For the same reason your car windshield is transparent, but your Transitions glasses won't darken.

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  5. Economics by EmagGeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is the cost, and how long will it take to generate enough power to recover that cost?

    Also, how much taxpayer money is being spent on this?

    1. Re:Economics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In some senses, it doesn't matter. Pilot projects (assuming this is a pilot project--I don't know of any other place that's tried anything like this) ALWAYS cost more per unit scale. The goal is to gauge its efficacy. If it works well, then see how/whether it can be improved upon and implement it again. Vertical solar farms would be an interesting solution to the acreage issue.

  6. Re:Great by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Only if the net output of the solar cells over their projected lifetime exceeds the energy costs to manufacture them and affix them to the side of the building. This is a publicity stunt, when in fact revamping the environmental controls could potentially yield greater energy savings at lower cost. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be -- a good engineer looks for the most efficient means of accomplishing the objective. Slapping solar cells on the roof of a Prius technically makes it go farther on a gallon of gas, but the difference is so trivial that it doesn't justify the cost of the solar cells.

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  7. Average hours of sunlight per day in Chi-town? by sdguero · · Score: 5, Interesting

    According to this solar power website, Chicago only gets an average of 3.14 hours of sunlight per day:
    http://www.gosolarcompany.com/pv-sizing-sun-hours.html

    Seems like it would be a lot more efficient to put these on a high rise in Phoenix, with an average of 6.58 hours per day of sunlight. Then again, I'm not a marketing guy for Big WIlly, or "journalist" at inhabitat, so what do I know...

  8. Re:How much offset? by peragrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually you can thank the buildings designers for that. most skyscrapers suffer from updrafts, that could be strong enough to lift 120 pounds. Think about it, that cute secretary in those awesome heels, walks by the open window and gets sucked out of it because the wind shifts just right. It has happened.

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  9. Re:How much offset? by Dahamma · · Score: 4, Funny

    And remember this is Chicago, not New York, so even the not-so-cute 300lb IT support guy would be in peril with those winds...

  10. Re:How much offset? by nogginthenog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Simply place a sign by the window: "Do not stand next to open window or you may get sucked off"

  11. Re:Great by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Informative

    Only if the net output of the solar cells over their projected lifetime exceeds the energy costs to manufacture them and affix them to the side of the building.

    Which, since they are conducting an extensive remodel of the building to improve energy efficiency including replacing the single-pane windows anyway, they most likely will, that makes it a good decision.

    Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be -- a good engineer looks for the most efficient means of accomplishing the objective.

    Exactly, and that often means making use of multiple techniques in concert, including some smaller optimizations that nevertheless contribute to the overall objective, and ideally take advantage of changes you're already making. For example, you might see that one of the biggest improvements you can make to the building is to replace all the old poorly insulated windows with new efficient ones. And then you can look at whether or not in-window solar would be worth it in the context of having already decided to replace all the windows.

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  12. Re:How much offset? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Chicago is actually named the "Windy City" thanks to their politicians, not their weather. Lots of cities are windier.

  13. Re:Great by Biogenesis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Re: Energetics of solar panels. Modern panels "pay" for themselves about 10-15 times over.

    See Permanently dispelling a myth of photovoltaics via the adoption of a new net energy indicator

    In the case of a building which requires windows I would suggest only counting the solar cell manufacturing cost as the glass and installation cost happen regardless. Unless said building didn't require the windows to be replaced, in which case it's valid to count it.