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Japanese Chip Shutdown Causing Shortages

An anonymous reader writes "Japan's natural disasters and nuclear crisis have already caused silicon wafer shortages that are rippling through the global supply chain of semiconductors for everything from your garden variety PC to the biggest Google server farm. The earthquake and tsunami in Japan have shut down 25 percent of the global semiconductor raw materials production, threatening to cause shortages and price hikes in everything from smartphones to supercomputers. Intel and Qualcomm are countering that they have stockpiles and alternative manufacturing plants that can pick up the slack, but dozens of other electronics makers require critical components only manufactured in Japan."

121 comments

  1. Because This is Important by sexconker · · Score: 0

    People trapped and dying.
    Let's worry about how much our next next motherboard will cost.

    1. Re:Because This is Important by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Let's worry about how much our next next motherboard will cost.

      Just remember what you said in 6 months, when you need a new motherboard, because one of yours is damaged or something, and you go to a store for a new one, only to find the cheapest motherboards are priced starting at $9,999.

    2. Re:Because This is Important by sqrt(2) · · Score: 1

      I'd be surprised if anyone trapped during the earthquake or tsunami were still alive. It'll only be bodies we find from now on.

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    3. Re:Because This is Important by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, human life is valuable and its the first priority, but Its the entire economy of the civilized world we are talking about here, so its a bit more important then you are eluding to.

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    4. Re:Because This is Important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Liz Taylor died this morning and you're posting this shit?

      Have some priorities, man!

    5. Re:Because This is Important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noooo
      We find they sell no motherboards anymore.

      Just buy an used entreprise PC for 80 euros then

    6. Re:Because This is Important by jbolden · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is /. not oxfam. What aspect of it do you think we are going to talk about?

    7. Re:Because This is Important by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      People trapped and dying.
      Let's worry about how much our next next motherboard will cost.

      Yeah, let's stop supporting them economically and chew on our nails instead;.

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    8. Re:Because This is Important by SomeJoel · · Score: 1

      so its a bit more important then you are eluding to.

      But you... and then... oh forget it.

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    9. Re:Because This is Important by blair1q · · Score: 1

      And we'll probably never find most of those.

      Pictures I've seen have shown acres-wide piles of debris floating mid-ocean. Houses, crushed by the incoming water and swept away by the outgoing water.

      Some shots of whole towns built in little canyons on the shore, nothing left but the occasional foundation or concrete building, and some litter.

      If they didn't get out, they're gone.

    10. Re:Because This is Important by blair1q · · Score: 1

      It's a small part of a short period in the segment of the economy that is directly dependent on new equipment and parts beyond what is in inventory.

      It may affect 1% of SKUs, total, directly or once-removed indirectly.

      If this has a serious effect on the entire investment community, then capitalism is too friable to be allowed to continue without major and persistent regulation.

      Although I would've thought that a few hedge funds going upside-down on their derivatives wagers on the American housing market precipitating a worldwide crash in all equities, the collapse of hundreds of banks, and the near dissolution of a quarter of the world's auto makers would have been enough proof of that.

    11. Re:Because This is Important by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      It is quite possible that the failed ability to get shit built kills people too you know.

      Not saying it's happened yet, but ,ere things are capable of saving lives, and their absence can cause endings to life.

      I know a few people that couldn't of survived without silicone wafers.

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    12. Re:Because This is Important by benjamindees · · Score: 4, Informative

      eluding to

      alluding to

      "ad" means "to" in Latin. "ex" means "from". You elude from something. You allude to it.

      evade, escape, egress...
      attack, admonish, advise...

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    13. Re:Because This is Important by dswensen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because not discussing the economic impact of a disaster on a technology website will totally help those people. Much in the same way that not discussing other, more trivial stories will cure cancer or address world hunger.

    14. Re:Because This is Important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will, thanks. And I don't need condescending douches like you to tell me that I'm a bad person for not feeling bad about all those trapped people dying. Meh.

    15. Re:Because This is Important by HuckleCom · · Score: 1

      atypical ?

    16. Re:Because This is Important by benjamindees · · Score: 1

      atypical ?

      Sounds Greek to me.

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    17. Re:Because This is Important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because all motherboards come from Japan.

    18. Re:Because This is Important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet your the same douche who comes in here and bitches about... "this isn't news for nerds"

    19. Re:Because This is Important by cayenne8 · · Score: 0

      The hell with motherboards...I'm getting ready to buy a nice large LED LCD tv....better get one before those start to skyrocket in price...

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    20. Re:Because This is Important by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

      I know a few people that couldn't of survived without silicone wafers.

      Most slashdotters, for instance.

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    21. Re:Because This is Important by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 1

      Just the same way bitching about it helps those in need.

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  2. Cars ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget : Cars

  3. Re:Yep, thats big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Goatse troll. Someone mod this troll down and ban his slashdot account please.

  4. Multitasking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You do that. The rest of us can think about more than one thing at a time.

  5. An opportunity... by bogaboga · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but dozens of other electronics makers require critical components only manufactured in Japan."

    What could these critical components be really? Just want to know. With this datum, can someone convince me that Japan is manufacturing these components because it's cheaper than to manufacture them in the USA?

    US based venture capitalists, step in and do something here. You will be handsomely rewarded.

    1. Re:An opportunity... by Winckle · · Score: 1

      I think some manufacturing processes are kept secret and not shared with outside factories, letting those in Japan have superior methods/tech to foreign competitors.

    2. Re:An opportunity... by jbolden · · Score: 1

      No there was a big fire in the only factory that made the right glue for computer memory in 1993. Prices skyrocketed for the glue but the market was soon glutted. Not enough time.

    3. Re:An opportunity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      US based venture capitalists, step in and do something here. You will be handsomely rewarded.

      Then they'll outsource it to China like everything else.

    4. Re:An opportunity... by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Who do you think caused the earthquake?

    5. Re:An opportunity... by Riceballsan · · Score: 2

      A lovely thought and perfectly logical, unfortunately US companies don't see any point to making actual goods here because some reason our workers actually think the people who actually do work are worth almost 1% of those who manage and market. Thus we have to export manufacturing to the countries that will pay their workers $5 a week or less.

    6. Re:An opportunity... by dgatwood · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, but for that short period of time, a bunch of manufacturers found themselves in a sticky situation.

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    7. Re:An opportunity... by jbolden · · Score: 1

      gong, gong.

    8. Re:An opportunity... by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      Yeah that was a lot of fun, knowing that people were selling the stock of chips *they already had* at outrageously high prices. I understand about replacement cost and all that, but it really was *nuts* for a while, and that time happened to coincide with a local maximum for my own individual need for memory chips. I basically learned how to do more with less RAM and infrequent upgrades. When the bottom fell out of the chip market it kind of caught me by surprise... I needed, I guess, 128M simms or something, and the first place I checked had them for maybe 1/4 the price I was expecting. A bit of a revolution started that for me, marks the transition between the time that mostly nerds had computers to where *everybody and their dog* had one.

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    9. Re:An opportunity... by jbolden · · Score: 1

      I remember. I had a 386-40 (AMD) that I bought with 8m ram and had upgraded to 20m.
      I replaced it with a Pentium-60 (1st gen) with 16m.
      I think that's that was the only memory downgrade in my life in terms of systems I personally owned included when I switched to laptops.

    10. Re:An opportunity... by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      What could these critical components be really? Just want to know. With this datum, can someone convince me that Japan is manufacturing these components because it's cheaper than to manufacture them in the USA?

      It's a few years since I worked for a company that made chips, but from what I remember every chip mask we used was made in Japan because they were the only country with the technology to do so. That wouldn't affect existing chips but would prevent you from making new ones.

    11. Re:An opportunity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Usually Japan has quality. Which is kinda funny because the one guy who is responsible for todays quality of Japan was an American.

    12. Re:An opportunity... by Jarik_Tentsu · · Score: 1

      These chips will be used in commercial boards and PCBs. How long do you think it'd take the company who is selling these commercial products to redesign their boards for the new chips, go through the various stages of the product life cycle and then finally start selling them?

      In that time I'm sure Japan's chip industry will be up and running again.

    13. Re:An opportunity... by EvilIdler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Japan isn't a third-world nation, though. Wages there are actually pretty high: http://www.worldsalaries.org/japan.shtml

      I would think chip factory workers are in the $2000-$3000 per month range, but I have no data on that. Seems right when you compare all the sectors, though. Japan is about as expensive as a North European country, with wages to match. $20 per month would be unsustainable and illegal ;)

      Maybe it's because Japan is in the middle of the world? About as far east and west, and close to China/Taiwan, where they take chips and make motherboards and other things from them. Also centrally located for distribution (and incidentally much cheaper, not adding so much overhead once final products are built).

    14. Re:An opportunity... by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's because Japan is in the middle of the world?

      Let me guess, you have one of those weird-ass American maps that have the Pacific in the middle? :-)

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    15. Re:An opportunity... by Nocterro · · Score: 1
      For one, the Sony CCD sensor chips used in many, many CCTV surveillance cameras.

      I work for an Australian CCTV wholesaler and we're already getting emails offering buying leads for alternative manufacturers (Pixim for instance)

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    16. Re:An opportunity... by DinDaddy · · Score: 1

      I believe Nikon makes the optics used in the process, and they were also hit pretty hard by this, as was Panasonic.

    17. Re:An opportunity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And hopefully this will be a lesson to the world to not put all of our eggs into one basket. That basket can be taken away and then where do you go and what do you do?

  6. So maybe we should build some factories elsewhere. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Say Detroit. Some redundancy would be beneficial, don't you think?

    I bet there's plenty of available buildings too.

  7. Hmm, bad planning much? by haruchai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Japan has been known to disaster-prone for how long exactly? And you don't have reliable alternate streams for your critical components? Cry me a fucking river - I'll sing you a sad song.

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    1. Re:Hmm, bad planning much? by camcorder · · Score: 2

      Well, they won't actually whine but just increase the prices. At the end of the day, it's the consumers who will get affected, not the vendors. They don't need mercy of yours at all, better prepare to pay more.

    2. Re:Hmm, bad planning much? by SomeJoel · · Score: 2

      Well, they won't actually whine but just increase the prices. At the end of the day, it's the consumers who will get affected, not the vendors. They don't need mercy of yours at all, better prepare to pay more.

      Actually, both consumers and vendors are affected. If your customers can no longer afford to buy your product, you'll soon be without customers.

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    3. Re:Hmm, bad planning much? by kdsible · · Score: 0

      I second this common sense - and your quote!!

    4. Re:Hmm, bad planning much? by timeOday · · Score: 1
      Yup, all those dumb consumers should have paid more for electronics to preserve diversity among producers, what were they thinking?

      Seriously, defense is probably the only industry critical enough and rich enough to even attempt such a thing, but even they get criticized for the inefficiencies inherent in the approach, such as giving preferential treatment to small businesses, subsidizing Boeing, and so on.

    5. Re:Hmm, bad planning much? by haruchai · · Score: 1

      It wasn't the consumers who made the decision. We were buying stuff even when it cost much more than it does now. I remember when VCRs cost over $2000 in today's dollars. People still bought them ( just not one for each room of the house )

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    6. Re:Hmm, bad planning much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Japan has been known to disaster-prone for how long exactly? And you don't have reliable alternate streams for your critical components? Cry me a fucking river - I'll sing you a sad song.

      Keeping multiple streams is inefficient. Efficiency is everything these days. We expect you to work continuously at 110 per cent.

    7. Re:Hmm, bad planning much? by haruchai · · Score: 1

      Which is fine, I suppose, until disaster strikes. Did the efficiency experts think that "Ring of Fire" is hyperbole?

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    8. Re:Hmm, bad planning much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get that point, but someone always wins when gravity crushes "everyone but one" into the ground. For every mass of closing stores there's a rich conglomerate jumping up in joy since customers *them now* at monopoly pricing.

      Millionaires don't care if they lost their temp gigs (the kind that doesn't indebt himself like a Wallstreet gambler^W trader anyway). Those mega-platinum contracts, audiophile cables, Mercedes Benz's, thousand dollar suits, alienware PC's and diamond plated laptops don't buy themselves and have been fine for years or decades, and if some died during a recession, someone else continued their trade with their stolen know-how or something.

      Only the masses suffer and adapt during a true recession, but the rich find something else to sell them for cheap if trends change.

    9. Re:Hmm, bad planning much? by g00ey · · Score: 1

      I have read that the most part (over 90%) of the semi-conductor manufacturing is located in regions of Japan that are not affected by the Tsunami. It would be interesting to know how much is really produced in Japan at all. Most things are being made in China these days.

      My suspicions are that these "shortages" are claimed in an attempt to manipulate the prices. It just like what the people at Enron did when they called up power plants and told them to shut down the electricity for a few hours every now and then to push up the electricity prices on the market.

  8. Re:Yep, thats big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    the game

    damn you!

  9. Ah yes, been waiting for the ole SHORTAGE panic... by Phizzle · · Score: 1

    Like the 95 Kobe quake they had when all monitor guys, including those outside of Japan, suddenly started complaining about the shortage of glass. Later turned out that there was only one fab that was affected and it was Ikegami and they were only doing one type of consumer TV tube. Keep in mind, the earthquake shut down not only supply but a great bit of demand... Cui Bono, eh?!

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  10. Re:Ah yes, been waiting for the ole SHORTAGE panic by jhoegl · · Score: 1

    Agreed.
    In fact, wasn't there a post on Slashdot regarding the affected industry? Or maybe I heard it on the news.
    Only 4% of Japans economy was affected by the Earthquake, the rest of the country kept right on working.
    So 4% = 25% of the worlds chip makers?

  11. Radio-Action? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello, I'm no nuculear specialist or anything, so I want to know if there is any chance of PC parts with japanese components (capacitors and stuff) shipping with radioactive particles on them from now on.

    I want all those extra FPS's...but i don't want my PC to be something to DIE for!

    1. Re:Radio-Action? by ShakaUVM · · Score: 4, Funny

      >>>Hello, I'm no nuculear specialist or anything, so I want to know if there is any chance of PC parts with japanese components (capacitors and stuff) shipping with radioactive particles on them from now on.
      >>I want all those extra FPS's...but i don't want my PC to be something to DIE for!

      But... gamma particles are all the latest craze in overclocking! Why be lame with those commodity blue LED lights on your box when you could have the "real" soothing blue of Cherenkov radiation?

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Advanced_Test_Reactor.jpg (Hmm, actually looks like a lot of cases I've seen...)

  12. Need to find old manufacturing consultant by chill · · Score: 4, Funny

    Specifically, the one who pushed "Just In Time" for the manufacturer where I worked way back when.

    Me: "But what about catastrophic incidents with a supplier or entire region?"

    Consultant: "It doesn't happen like that. If one supplier goes down, we get from another. Entire sectors don't go down at once."

    After 10 years I can now call him up and say "Ha! I told you so!"

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    1. Re:Need to find old manufacturing consultant by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      Specifically, the one who pushed "Just In Time" for the manufacturer where I worked way back when.

      I believe the originator of the JIT system is... Japan!

      I'm not sure exactly how they compensate for the disasters in the model, but many modern business methods have come out of there, including the Toyota system...

    2. Re:Need to find old manufacturing consultant by Kyusaku+Natsume · · Score: 1

      When you are dealing with products that face planned obsolescence in one year or less like cars and consumer electronics you need to plan for just in time unless you want to send huge swats of your production directly to the landfill.

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    3. Re:Need to find old manufacturing consultant by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      Yeah. JIT works for screws and bolts but not for non-commodities.

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    4. Re:Need to find old manufacturing consultant by jd2112 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And he will point out that the cost savings from the past ten years of Just In Time offset any losses due to the situation in Japan and other catastrophies many times over.

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    5. Re:Need to find old manufacturing consultant by russotto · · Score: 1

      Yeah. JIT works for screws and bolts but not for non-commodities.

      Naa, that's JIS.

    6. Re:Need to find old manufacturing consultant by allanw · · Score: 1

      Yeah I hate having to buy a new car or computer every year.

    7. Re:Need to find old manufacturing consultant by geoskd · · Score: 4, Funny

      many modern business methods have come out of there, including the Toyota system...

      Is that the system where they just keep going without stopping?

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  13. Posted under apple really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its clearly a HARDWARE story

  14. The US comes out on top by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Funny

    See, this shows how the US has things figured out. If we have a catastrophic natural disaster in the US, we won't run into this problem, because we were smart enough to make sure that we don't manufacture anything here.

    1. Re:The US comes out on top by Dunark · · Score: 1

      If we have a catastrophic natural disaster in the US, we won't run into this problem

      That doesn't work because we have catastrophic artificial problems.

    2. Re:The US comes out on top by mbkennel · · Score: 1

      Lean Manufacturing Secrets of the Secret Haitian Masters!

    3. Re:The US comes out on top by failedlogic · · Score: 1

      This is a funny comment. But I think some of these funny comments that are modded up would help one get you elected into a political office. I think the best BSers on Slashdot should run for office.

    4. Re:The US comes out on top by MartinSchou · · Score: 2

      Actually, if say California was hit by a massive 9.0 earth quake, the RIAA and MPAA would suddenly be without any new productions, and they'd have to settle for compilations, reruns and rereleases ....

      Wait ...

    5. Re:The US comes out on top by thunderclap · · Score: 1

      I promise you and this will sound cruel, there would be people willing to die to ensure no RIAA people escape the building as it collapses. Thats how bad its gotten.

    6. Re:The US comes out on top by TheoMurpse · · Score: 2

      Joke's on you: both are headquartered in DC!

    7. Re:The US comes out on top by rubycodez · · Score: 2

      so now you have me thinking about a tsunami giving D.C. an enema while the rest of the country blocks the highways to make sure no one escapes. win / win, no downside!

    8. Re:The US comes out on top by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even the very finest BSers here would be outclassed in a party primary.

  15. nakedcapitalism.com had a story on this by decora · · Score: 1

    the entire business system of the world has been moving to 'just in time' / outsourcing, from airplanes to electronics to finance itself (mortgages).

    the claim is 'higher efficiences' and 'lower costs' (arbitrage im guessing is in there somewhere).

    when people talk about risks, they dont get listened to becasue they are basically saying 'we need to cut fewer costs' i.e. 'we need to make less short term profit'.

    in some industries, failure to be number 1 or 2 = complete and total failure, at least amongst certain types of people who see things that way.

    1. Re:nakedcapitalism.com had a story on this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, depending on the context, 'just-in-time' often is a good idea and does save money. Before shipping got reliable (and before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operations_research figured out the math in WW2 and beyond), you had to maintain a fairly large stockpile of input and output at every site involved in the entire chain from raw material harvesting all the way to the storefront. Gradually we've figured out how much of a supply each location really needs on hand, so we only keep that (plus maybe a few percent more as wiggle room), thus saving the cost of the extra storage space and employees. So for example, the storefront gets one truckload a week and puts most of that directly on the shelves, instead of getting four trucks at the start of every month and putting all that in a huge back room and then gradually moving it again onto shelves over the month. Plus, the shorter storage lengths are, of course, better for things that have expiration dates, like food that spoils, or high storage costs like food that needs to be refrigerated.

      In the case to the quake/tsunami, being oldschool wouldn't have really been any better; stockpiles within japan would still have been damaged, and there would still be exactly the same supply problem once the stockpiles elsewhere were used up. (Or to reword it: the gap in the supply pipeline would still be the same size, even if the pipe was longer). Note that for this tech stuff, the stockpiles are also constrained on both ends: they can't be too small, because the shipment takes a long time to arrive from japan; but they can't be too large because the tech changes quickly, so having a large stockpile would mean starting your own production late, and then been stuck holding obsolete parts when it's time to start making the next new thing. (Or another reword: when the tech moves fast, any stockpile's value depreciates very quickly).

  16. Re:Yep, thats big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can curse me, but that won't change the fact that you are now blinking manually.

  17. Re:So maybe we should build some factories elsewhe by theguru · · Score: 1

    No, then the unions will cause the chips to cost 4X as much..

  18. Re:Yep, thats big problem by blair1q · · Score: 0

    Haven't you learned?

    The only way to win is not to play.

  19. DRAM shortage after 1998 Taiwan earthquake by peter303 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Taiwan manufactured some crucial part of DRAM then. So when factories closed for four months after a large 1998 quake, DRAM prices actually increased the following two years.

    1. Re:DRAM shortage after 1998 Taiwan earthquake by grapeape · · Score: 1

      Didn't that also result in a bunch of lawsuits over collusion though? Thats where the whole RAMBUS debacle started if I remember correctly.

    2. Re:DRAM shortage after 1998 Taiwan earthquake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct and DRAM then became a commodity with pricing and imports governed by Uncle Sam. A supplier of mine used to smuggle suitcases of DRAM and remarked CPUs back in those days. Many got rich off once Uncle Sam got involved and curtailed the competition and created a black market for such items. Government can do many things very well; running a business is not one of them.

    3. Re:DRAM shortage after 1998 Taiwan earthquake by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, RAMBUS was a patent protected monopoly. They didn't license the technology cheaply (or broadly enough) and so prices were high for it due to low supply and high demand (it was Intel's only memory platform for a couple years). Rambus failed because they sucked at basic economics.

      The DRAM collusion investigations involved Hynix, Infineon, Samsung, Micron, and Elpida. Rambus actually has lawsuits against those companies alleging that they colluded to drive the price of Synchronous DRAM down and thus drive Intel back to SDRAM. I'm not sure how that works, because the US DoJ fined the above companies ~$700 million for colluding to keep prices high.

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  20. Captain Oblivious strikes again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    > dozens of other electronics makers require critical components only manufactured in Japan.

    Where exactly were they supposed to source these, again?

    1. Re:Captain Oblivious strikes again! by haruchai · · Score: 3, Insightful

      MANUFACTURED means MADE. This isn't a natural resource; if they can make it, so can we. The fact that you allowed yourself to become dependent on a sole source goes back to - wait for it - BAD PLANNING.
      Remember how AMD got into the x86 biz? No? Go look it up.

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    2. Re:Captain Oblivious strikes again! by Cwix · · Score: 5, Informative

      Remember how AMD got into the x86 biz? No? Go look it up.

      Excellent suggestion, link for anyone interested.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd#Processor_market_history

      Relevant quote for those not interested. Seems like good planning on IBMs part.

      IBM wanted to use the Intel 8088 in its IBM PC, but IBM's policy at the time was to require at least two sources for its chips.

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    3. Re:Captain Oblivious strikes again! by EmperorOuk · · Score: 1
      Wow you're like Donald Trump on slashdot. Your hugely superficial grasp of situations coupled with your ability to confidently give sweeping solutions to complex problems without even a nod to the details must make you a huge hit with management.

      MANUFACTURED means MADE. ... if they can make it, so can we.

      Jesus Christ.

    4. Re:Captain Oblivious strikes again! by haruchai · · Score: 1

      I think you must be speaking to the man in the mirror. Go back and read through my entire set of posts on the subject - slowly and carefully.
      I don't think you got past the superficial stage yourself. And, if you happen to be less popular with management than I, you should probably get tested for sociopathic tendencies.

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  21. Re:Ah yes, been waiting for the ole SHORTAGE panic by blair1q · · Score: 1

    If that 4% included one of four silicon wafer manufacturers, then yes. Chip makers buy their wafers from companies that refine the sand and grow the ingots and saw the wafers from them. It's a very specialized business to make the wafers at the tolerances needed for modern chipmaking. Totally not unreasonable for a quarter of the world's capacity to be in one small area.

  22. Re:Bullshit by blair1q · · Score: 0

    Another fucking goatse troll.

  23. Re:So maybe we should build some factories elsewhe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's ok, it's better than the patent lawsuits. I'd rather union workers have the money than lawyers.

  24. Re:Ah yes, been waiting for the ole SHORTAGE panic by grapeape · · Score: 4, Informative

    So far the only major tech companies really known to be affected are:

    Sony's camera division which has halted its assembly lines due to the rolling blackouts, it is concidering shifting production to other facilities temporarily.

    Toshiba's LSI plant is offline they hope to be back up and running in about 3 weeks, they are offline due to damaged equipment. They have switched to alternate facitiles for its small screen manufacturing and do not expect shortages.

    Canon's domestic camera production is offline due to a shortage of on hand parts but hopes to be back up and running by the end of this week.

    Nikon has 4 plants that are offline but they are for its precision equipment division its camera and consumer products plants are in Taiwan.

    Panasonic has several plants that handle optical sensors and camera gear offline in northern Japan there is no major damage but say they are waiting on infrastructure repair before resuming production.

    Renesas Electronics, has resumed operations at their biggest plant of the seven affected but another six are offline, 15 of their other plants in japan are still up and running and were not affected by the Tsunami.

    Shin-Etsu Chemical, the silicon wafer manufacturer that everyone is talking about has 2 of their plants offline but are trying to boost production at other plants to make up for any shortfalls.

  25. Re:Yep, thats big problem by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 0

    And to think, all this time I thought the only way to play was not to win!

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  26. Re:Yep, thats big problem by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

    And, in hindsight, I missed the obviously superior Soviet Russia joke. The preview button exists for a reason, kids!

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  27. Re:Ah yes, been waiting for the ole SHORTAGE panic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bear in mind some of those plants are required to supply other wafer plants. notably Intel's Ivy Bridge (22nm) plans are believed to be affected by Nikon's issues. There are some domino effects to consider.

  28. Re:Yep, thats big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and breathing manually.

  29. Thanks for posting the relevant link by haruchai · · Score: 1

    I really should have done that myself. +1 Informative to you.

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    1. Re:Thanks for posting the relevant link by Cwix · · Score: 1

      No prob, your suggestion got me to learn something new today.

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  30. Apple in the tags?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do the tags for this article include a company that was not mentioned? Could it be that tomorrow we will find out that Apple Tablets have one of these critical components being manufactured there? Why would you not include this info in the article if so? Wonder where the stock options are going on that, :P

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  31. right but the pipline would keep flowing by decora · · Score: 2

    it's like the difference between having unbuffered video stream and a buffered video stream on your youtube video.

    if its unbuffered, you might get interruptions and hiccups in delivery, which destroy the experience.

    if you have buffering, it costs more resources, more memory, more code, etc, but you are guaranteed less interruption.

    now we are talking about big industries instead of a video on youtube, so people feel the impact harder, and if it is the food pipleine, people will start rioting in the street.

    many oil producers keep strategic reserves on hand, am i right? its like inventory, its wasteful but they do it to smooth out the bumps in the road.

  32. like gulf-oil-spill fake reason for raising gas$$ by lpq · · Score: 1

    Is this similar to the bogus announcements of oil shortages caused by the gulf spill to raise prices at the pump (when it wasn't true -- shortly
    after a oil&media induced buying spree on a price run-up, prices dropped severely as there there was no shortage, and everyone had run on gas to buy it up before it 'ran out' -- it did (at the high prices), was replaced by gas costing 30% less...*cough*...

    Chips, made in Japan? How many US suppliers get them from Japan and not China or such? I'm sure there are some, but how much is being 'pumped up' as a way to push up profits?

  33. Re:Post by pjbgravely · · Score: 1

    Try Moderatrix, It works for me.

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  34. HD-Cam Videotape gone now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only factory making HDCAM tape is in Sendai, 80 miles from the quake. The plant is flooded, and not expected on-line for a while. TV producers are going nuts trying to find stock.

    http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/115604

  35. Sense of perspective much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look, nearly 10,000 people are dead so far from the earthquake and tsunami. They were truly cataclysmic events. From the trouble at Fukushima? None. Can the anti-nuke hysteria.

    The real disruption is from the earthquake and tsunami. Period. The nuclear scare is really only affecting a narrow area, unless you happen to be trying to export/import produce from the near proximity of Fukushima. That's not affecting chip sales.

    1. Re:Sense of perspective much? by tm2b · · Score: 1

      Yeah. The mention of the nuclear question is from the Slashdot submitter, not TFA.

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  36. Isn't it funny? by Tigger's+Pet · · Score: 1

    Last week when the story was posted of "US Alarmed Over Japan's Nuclear Crisis" - http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/03/17/0343230/US-Alarmed-Over-Japans-Nuclear-Crisis - I was marked down as "0 - Troll" for saying "Given Japan's position as the third biggest economy in the world and the amount that they produce which is exported to the rest of the world, as well as their technological knowledge, I think we should all be massively concerned about the impact that will be had on the rest of the world..." Does this story now appearing about prices hikes, shortages etc show me to have been right after all?

  37. Re:Japanese Chip Shutdown Causing Shortages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  38. What a bad headling! by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    It made it sound like there was chip failure everywhere, as machines were not functioning because of faulty chips designed and sent out from japan, due to the nuclear crisis.....then i reread what they were saying in the description, and wow, talk about misleading your readers.
    Sure there will be shortages of stuff from japan fro a while, they are still dealing with a massive disaster, would you expect haiti to send you out all your clothing goods you got made over there, if half the country is still living in small tents...???

  39. Re:Yep, thats big problem by blair1q · · Score: 1

    In Soviet Russia, submit button previews you!

  40. a bit insensitive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Japanese people are worried about their family members, loved ones, and friends which where the missing are probably doing to turn up dead and all we're worried about how we'll get our next shiny new toy.