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Twitter's Lawyers Seek To Block WikiLeaks Data Handover
jhernik writes "Lawyers on Friday asked a judge to overturn a ruling from earlier this month, forcing Twitter to hand over account details to the Department of Justice, in a case related to the federal government's ongoing investigation of WikiLeaks. The appeal (PDF) seeks to overturn a ruling that would give the government access to Twitter account details for three users who had contact with WikiLeaks. The government also wants Twitter to provide information on WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and on Bradley Manning, a US Army private charged with providing data to WikiLeaks."
instead of insta-caving to abuse of law? wow. never saw that coming, certainly not from Twitter.
Twitter respect: level UP
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
Tweets are public. Anyone can call them up with a twitter search (as far as that works). So they aren't the issue.
The issue would be the DMs. Those are more like phone calls. But, unlike phone calls, they're archived on Twitter's servers.
So this is like a wiretap that can retrieve past phone calls. Which is a really cool idea.
Frankly Twitter, the EFF, and the ACLU have little chance on that count. A warrant can be issued to bug anyone's communications or retrieve their stored data. I'm not sure why they think they can change that.
would have made haste to bend all over for the govn't.
...is a lot longer than 140 characters.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
I look forward to a time when those big social networks are not hosted in the U.S. Having them hosted in the U.S. means that there is actually no real privacy because the government can always ask for your private information. What I don't understand is why the U.S. public is not raging over they're governments actions, described in the leaked cabels. They're even changing the law so they can prosicute J. Assange. I'm so happy not to live in the U.S, and I'm from Iceland. It's a country that's bankrupt, the politicians are more or less sh** and our so called summer spans two months a year! Now come at me!
In a world without fences and walls, who needs gates and windows?
The story is wrong. They apparently didn't even read the document they linked to on the ACLU's website.
Twitter isn't appealing. The people whose information is being sought (Jacob Appelbaum, Ron Gonggrjp, and Birgitta Jonsdottir) are.
If the federal government were this aggressive in pursuing and prosecuting Aldrich Ames and Robert Hansen, Manning probably would have been too scared to have pulled this stunt...
merchants of death? in a newclear society, they are identified before they arrive. glass cages was one suggestion for constraining the current issue of them, as we are used as examples in their terror campaigns, which we also (mommys) pay for, & we never want to forget that again? & again, (ever is a very long time) it sure looks like that (we forgot?) from realer history's point of view. who knew?. the 'math' has always felt 'funny'. now the weather? as for religion..., looks like a black hole to some of us former 'trainees'/altered boys.
the new thinking might be that they (all of us, as fair is fair) be totally disarmed, & given an area where they can kill each other, if that's their goal. it's pretty sad, but now way beyond that.
disarm would be good enough for now? we could easily afford that?
It's great to see a company not bending over and greasing up when the federal Fascists come to call.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
Your problem is that you clearly don't understand the difference between a little corporate malfeasance and National Defense. If it was your safety and security being threatened you might feel a little bit different about it – or not, if you're an idiot. Non-idiots already know that diplomacy is like making sausage – something best not observed too closely.
And you are correct that you are probably happier living in Iceland than in the USA. That makes us happy too.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Your problem is that you clearly don't understand the difference between a little corporate malfeasance and National Defense. If it was your safety and security being threatened you might feel a little bit different about it – or not, if you're an idiot. Non-idiots already know that diplomacy is like making sausage – something best not observed too closely.
Well first of all I don't even understand the word "malfeasance"! But if this information is so dangerous in the wild, than why the hell does it exist? And what security are you talking about? You think this information will make a real difference in the lines of extremists in other countries? I honestly don't think so, it would be the equivalent of pouring a glass of water into Thingvallavatn(google it)!
And you are correct that you are probably happier living in Iceland than in the USA. That makes us happy too.
Oh come on...I know you can do better than that!
In a world without fences and walls, who needs gates and windows?
if we survive. leaving rob out of the equation will be a real relief, if we survive. he's been a little on the censorish side. he's doing his job, we know. it's ok. apologies are includead. newsletter? cool. got a scoop? maybe a blog about stuff that it's hard to figure out if it matters or not, until you think of how we're really connected? adversarial? condescending? almost never, unless death is in the drawgate.
wee key (diaper) leaks group worldwide, all rights reclaimed
babys rule. disarm
we're being lashed a bit, but nothing like what we've seen so far. stuff is convenient/replaceable.conversely, for each of the creators' innocents harmed in any way.... (particularly by order of the lineage of the mutant death peddlers, religious & other greed/fear/ego based murderous zealots etc..), you know the deal. .5 billion population? honestly? chariots? honestly? forget it. groundead. disarm
as for us typists, we'll take our du vitamin, whatever. go phuking worship yourselves (that's as harsh as we get), chew each others' nails off. it must be grand? is that why adolescent movies are all blooddeath now? yuk
the rest, see you at the scheduled million babys+ play-dates etc.... never ends, so that's good.
in a newclear society, having 'more' than your neighbor, is just not necessary, because we ALL would already have more than enough of everything we really need, by using the real math (no usury, tithing (like the gods need money), crazy nitrogenous stuff like that. shortages? are the royals facing shortages? we must focus...on the images?
You have a smaller then average sexual organ and your genetic markers indicate you are predispositions for diseases that makes you pretty much uninsure-able if you had them.
There is no problem with the information existing, the problem is with the wrong people knowing about it. If people knew about your short pecker, you couldn't get laid except by paying for it. If certain people knew about your predisposition to some diseases, your medical coverage would disappear.
And no, I don't know that any of that is true or not for you specifically, it certainly is for someone out there. There is no reason why that information needs to "not exist", but several good reasons for why it shouldn't be in the open for all to see.
To pretend that if information exists, it should all be in the open is a little stupid. If you think otherwise, post your address and banking information to prove it. Let's not trip over the obvious to make a point that doesn't exist.
I never said ALL information should be made public! But in a country where democracy exists and the government is democratically elected all information regarding the governments affairs and affairs of the governments, oh let's call them, agencies should be open!
How are the voters able to make up their mind about who should run the White House when they don't know all their dark secrets???
As I'm writing this I realize that this is not an issue as 96%(not an accurate number) of people in America, and in fact Iceland, vote for the same political party no matter what they have done!
In a world without fences and walls, who needs gates and windows?
No they should not.. For much the same reason why your bank account information and other things shouldn't be open. The government runs those affairs, not you. In the course of running them, certain things need to be kept quiet in order for the fruits of those actions to materialize.
The same way they do now and have for more then 200 years.
That's because 90% or better of the American public, know that you take some good with the bad. Nothing in the leaks exposed anything I would consider as bad. But to the people they are working with, they would consider them as bad. I don't care that we spied on the UN. The UN can't be trusted anyways. I don't care that some middle east country asked us to engage in a war and we didn't oblige. It's not that important to me as a citizen.. But it is important to the citizens of Iran or turkfuckistan or where ever else. Those things should be secrete during the relevant years.
Why change the subject?
The subject correctly read "Submission: Lawyers Seek To Block Twitter Data Handover", and now it incorrectly reads "Twitter's Lawyers Seek To Block WikiLeaks Data Handover".
Twitter's lawyers are not involved in this action, but the lawyers of these individuals are.
Just like you can't Jon Doe a civil suit, so the RIAA filed criminal suit, got the Jon Doe information, closed the suit and used that information in their civil suit, which isn't technically allowed.
Really, how naive are you?