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Microsoft Files EU Competition Complaint Against Google
bLanark writes "In an amazing about-turn, the bully has turned into the bullied. Microsoft, having been on the receiving end of many anti-competition lawsuits, has filed a complaint with the European Commission, saying that Google is using its market dominance to prevent Microsoft from gaining market share."
No real surprise here. Exactly what happens in the school playground when somebody turns round and finally stands up to the class bully.
Teeheehee. Methinks Google is actually using superior products to prevent Microsoft from gaining market share.
which is totally what she said
How can MS claim Google prevents MS from gaining market share when Bing is using Google search results?
Without Google, Bing would have even less market share.
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"We tried everything, we pushed our search with our browser, we pushed our browser with our os (which you foiled btw - ballot box), we tried sniffing the best result from google for a query from the users of our browser, but we still failed. Please help us"
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is it
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new plan? Don't worry about tablets - we will just cry to governments that we are getting our lunch eaten?
Except here it's a case of Hitler complaining about annexations and racial discrimination.
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Google are no angels, but compared with MS they are.
MS make a closed operating system and closed software for that closed operating system. How is that not anticompetitive? (I know this doesn't just apply to MS). It was even found as such in court, they where to be broken in two (a OS business and a software business), but then they got out of it!
MS bully the OEM to force Windows on us, and those of us free of them, end up paying more to not have it!
MS where given a monopoly by IBM from the get go and have maintained it with every trick in the book, and a few new ones they came up with themselves. Many of which come under "dirty trick". I could rant about MS and standards, but it's old ground everyone knows. Even the MS fan boys must be able to see Goolge are less bad by a order of magnitude or two, even through the MS cool aid vision. It Google do go properly evil, we can just change search engine, big deal. Many people aren't ready or able to change OS, in fact they are often deliberately locked in.
Which of Google's products don't have dozens of competitors right now?
Which of those products has a barrier to entry beyond writing and putting it on the web?
Which competitors have Google actively shut down? (This does not include being better or more popular.)
Did everyone forget that Yahoo was #1 in search not too long ago? That Google took the #1 spot with no advertising? That another company is free to do so if they can come up with a better product?
Google fails every test for a monopoly. I have no idea why people are continually calling for anti-trust investigations other than jealousy.
This sentence no verb.
new plan? Don't worry about tablets - we will just cry to governments that we are getting our lunch eaten?
Hey, worked for General Motors.
... your products not good enough to compete and gain marketshare when you can't use a monopoly to force people to use your products?
News at 11.
That said, GM did well to not worry about tablets.
Rethinking email
He did. "Mein Kampf" is basically one long diatribe about how Jews were trying to destroy Germans, and how Germany's areas had been forcibly taken and annexed to other countries. The last part was actually true, which is part of how Hitler managed to get power.
All of which, BTW, makes an excellent answer to anyone who says "world is not fair, deal with it": the more unfair the world is, the easier it is for the next Hitler/Stalin/Mao to get into power and start World War 3. So go ahead, cut those unemployment benefits and social security, if you feel lucky. Well, do ya, punk?
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
First, in 2006 Google acquired YouTube—and since then it has put in place a growing number of technical measures to restrict competing search engines from properly accessing it for their search results. Without proper access to YouTube, Bing and other search engines cannot stand with Google on an equal footing in returning search results with links to YouTube videos and that, of course, drives more users away from competitors and to Google.
YouTube does have a robots file http://www.youtube.com/robots.txt which asks not to index some parts of the website. This should be allowed. I have a robots.txt file on my websites. If you send a spider loose on my servers and ignore it then I may -j DROP you. If you send a spider to my sites and disobey it then I'll also -j DROP you. If you visit the hidden-linked /spider-trap/ then PHP scripts will begin to die('gfy') from your IP. I think this should be allowed, and I am strongly against anyone who wants to dictate who and what I allow on my server.
If Microsoft just thinks YouTube's robots.txt is too restrictive then they can go fsck themselves.
Now, on the other hand, IF Google is serving different pages or denying pages based on Microsoft's spiders user-agent then that is something completely different. That's EVIL. EU and others should strike down upon them with great vengeance and furious anger if they are doing exactly what Microsoft was exposed doing to Opera on their Hotmail service a few years back (yes, they really did serve broken pages to Opera-users based on User-agent).
I would very much like to see Microsoft give out actual technical details on what they believe Google is doing that's so bad and unacceptable. Loose blah blah "google bad" text is not at all helpful, they should show us the technical details behind their claims. It's not that hard. Opera did this when Microsoft intentionally sent Opera-users broken pages when visiting Hotmail, it's actually quite easy to do.
9/11: Never forget it was a false-flag operation
It's not just a matter of morality or fairness, but that we've paid into these trusts our entire working lives and were forced to do so by the same law that ensures we have access to them in time of need.
No you haven't, you've just been lied to. What really happened was that the trust "loaned" the money to the treasury, which immediately spent it. It's gone. There are no resources behind the trust. It has no gold, no stocks, no real estate. All you've got is a bunch of IOUs from a treasury with no money -- in other words, all you've got is future tax revenue. Which means that it isn't at all you who paid for your social security benefits, it's whoever pays the taxes tomorrow. What you paid for is all the extra stuff the Congresses you voted for bought because it could cheaply borrow so much extra money as a result of the huge government debt sink in the social security trust without ever considering it would have to be paid back.
Now you want people who weren't old enough to vote for those Congresses who spent the money you paid to now pay the debt that you claim you're owed. Do you understand the flaw in the logic? The unfairness?
That said, GM did well to not worry about tablets.
Yeah, and look where that got them!
Are they claiming that Google is blocking them from using this?
http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/getting_started.html#data_api
They even have implementations you can download. I just downloaded and tested the Objective-C library they provide, and it did indeed let me do some of the things Microsoft said they were blocking.