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Android Passes BlackBerry In US Market Share

An anonymous reader writes "69.5 million people in the US owned smartphones during the three months ending in February 2011, up 13 percent from the preceding three-month period. For the first time, more Americans are using phones running Google's Android operating system than Research In Motion's BlackBerry, according to comScore. Having passed the iPhone in the preceding three-month period, this now means that Android has been crowned king in the US."

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  1. Surprised? by jhigh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Android is an operating system available on devices from numerous manufacturers. It was only a matter of time, given the level of control that both RIM and Apple maintain over the hardware that their operating system is available on.

    I'm a Droid user and a huge fan, but it is almost an unfair comparison. You're comparing an (relatively) open operating system with proprietary devices running proprietary software.

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    1. Re:Surprised? by SomePgmr · · Score: 2

      True, and a model-to-model popularity study would have a very different lineup, but this is useful information on its own. I'd think particularly for anyone determining what platform to develop for. Though granted, it's not the only thing to consider.

    2. Re:Surprised? by Karlt1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think it might be better to consider that The Apple app market saw over 17x the sales of the Android Market last year.....
      http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20032012-37.html

    3. Re:Surprised? by poetmatt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Your comment makes no sense at all, and is a sidetrack to the issue.

      If we add up all the iphones and all the android phones, the answer is simple and straightforward: android is selling more, and the market has spoken. It doesn't matter if iphone creates 7 models or 100. It's still a "who sells the most of the major brand", and that has been answered. It's not MS, it's not apple, it's google.

    4. Re:Surprised? by ducomputergeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I saw it personally with a couple small apps I built and released for iPhone and Android. Despite more downloads of the free version on androids, over 85% of my sales were for iPhone. Given the time tweaking for the different versions of Android vs iOS, the apps I'm building this year are all for the iPhone.

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    5. Re:Surprised? by johnlcallaway · · Score: 3, Informative

      Better to consider .. what??? The story is pretty straight forward, more Android phones are being used than Apple phones. Which infers that more people are using them than are using Apple phones. Which infers that people prefer the Android phones (didn't say it was better, I said prefer) than Apple phones. I have all the apps I need on my Android, and no one has yet to show me an iPhone app that makes it worthwhile to switch. So the 'fact' the Apple app market sells more than the Android market doesn't mean anything to me. Except that iDrones have lots of excess cash to waste on apps that might even be free somewhere else.

      Android means choice, Apple is still the control-freak run company it always has been. Apple products have always appealed to those who just have to have the newest tech no matter what. Which means Apple products probably appeal to people with cash which means those people are probably willing to drop lots of bucks in the Apple store.

      It has always seemed like iDrones like having very little choice and doing what Apple says. I think doing any real thinking for themselves hurts too much.

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    6. Re:Surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I saw it personally with a couple small apps I built and released for iPhone and Android. Despite more downloads of the free version on androids, over 85% of my sales were for iPhone. Given the time tweaking for the different versions of Android vs iOS, the apps I'm building this year are all for the iPhone.

      The issue is, most developers follow that thought path. However, what I found is that the apps I want to pay for are better on iPhone. I don't want to pay the same price for fewer features, or pay more for the same features, just because I'm on Android. So, my options become paying them for an inferior product and reinforcing the practice.. or not buying the app.

    7. Re:Surprised? by BasilBrush · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Which infers that people prefer the Android phones (didn't say it was better, I said prefer) than Apple phones.

      People don't necessarily buy the product they prefer. Price is a consideration. And the vast number of cheap Android phones from many manufacturers explains the market share.

      So the 'fact' the Apple app market sells more than the Android market doesn't mean anything to me.

      Well maybe not. But it means everything to the developers. Which means most develop first for the iPhone, and then possibly port to Android.

      Android means choice

      Not of Apps it doesn't. iPhone has more and better choice of apps than Android for the reason stated above.

      It has always seemed like iDrones like having very little choice and doing what Apple says. I think doing any real thinking for themselves hurts too much.

      Hey whatever it takes to make you happy that you bought a cheap copy.

    8. Re:Surprised? by symbolset · · Score: 2

      Averaging the year as phone days, Apple had more. The growth rate is immense for Android, so the real install base didn't even show up until the middle of Q3. These numbers for 2011 will be very different.

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    9. Re:Surprised? by jo_ham · · Score: 2

      You just made his point for him, unless you're claiming your own post makes no sense.

      Multiple manufacturers selling Android-based phones, vs one manufacturer selling the iPhone, in a market that has Blackberry's OS, iOS, Android and WP7 as the major operating systems.

      If Android was even half decent (ie, better than Blackberry and WP&, which it is), then it will overtake iPhone marketshare by eating into other smartphone maker's shares (and with new users coming on board).

      Both Android and iOS [in iPhone 4 guise only, ignoring iPad for now] are continuing to grow - the smartphone market as a whole is growing. It's hardly surprising, especially since you can get much cheaper Android phones than the iPhone (that are pretty naff to be honest, but you get what you pay for), as well as much nicer Android phones that are actually comparable to the iPhone 4.

      It's what happened to the PC industry, and Apple have had experience with that too. They're quite happy to keep shipping iPhones (and iPads) as fast as they can make them because they are remarkably profitable. They don;t have to be number one in marketshare to do that.

    10. Re:Surprised? by VortexCortex · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If I were choosing to develop for a platform, why would I choose one with only 5% of the sales?

      Actually... I was presented with the choice of developing our apps for Apple's Application Store, or Google's Android Marketplace. Not really liking the choice much we opted for the 3rd choice: Distribute the application ourselves and in one of the proprietary marketplaces. So, naturally the application will be an Android application.

      Granted, our applications are more specialized for use by noise abatement engineers, mapping problematic sources of noise via triangulation, overlaying 3D sound models in real-time (altered reality), etc.

      Our apps will be supplemental to our other products. We didn't want to spend time making the apps, then not be able to sell them for whatever reason. Our only real choice is Android OS.

      They've relegate Android to the bargain bin.

      Yes, that means our mobile applications will be available to more people. Also, why would a developer take so much pride in a platform brand? We don't make more money based on who sells the best phones -- We make more money based on how many people can access and purchase our apps...

      However, you must be able to see that sales alone is not the sole deciding factor when a developer decides which mobile platform to support... There are many factors, one of which is "Are we sure that we'll even be able to sell the app at all?" Android is the only smart-phone platform where the answer to this question is Yes.

    11. Re:Surprised? by radio4fan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hey whatever it takes to make you happy that you bought a cheap copy.

      Funny, as I've got an iPhone (3GS) and an Android phone (HTC Desire). I need both for testing mobile websites.

      The iPhone now gets used *solely* for testing websites.

      The Android phone is just better in most respects; gmaps/navigation, ability to play *any* video format, better reception (GSM and wifi), faster to navigate the UI (it's got a 'back' button!), vastly superior home screens and widgets, better battery life (and the option of a spare battery), better camera, bluetooth that's not intentionally crippled, SDcard support, hotspot that works out-of-the-box... Just better.

      All that goes to make me 'happy that I bought a cheap copy'.

      The iPhone wins hands-down on style and sound quality (holy shit the sound on the HTC is crap) but nothing else I can think of.

      I'm not an Apple-hater; I'm typing this on my MacBook and I've owned Macs for 20 years (SE/30 FTW!)

    12. Re:Surprised? by PrimalChrome · · Score: 2

      Bullshit.

      I have some android apps that are low resource and very simple. Their interfaces are intuitive and polished. The problem is that many android apps are mostly functional, but lack any polish and the interfaces/documentation is abysmal. Putting that extra effort to make your software desirable makes a big difference in whether the average joe purchases the app. Apple and many of the App Store devs have realized that style sells as much as substance.

  2. Re:Yawn. by MrDoh! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm wondering if this will only help actually.
    Where else are the phone makers going to get an OS/that many apps quick enough to compete with Apple?
    And if they don't like to be told the interface, they going to go to Microsoft that's even more restrictive?

    Don't know. Still too early to tell, but I don't think it'll be as doom and gloom as some are saying.

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  3. Re:bouncing around by Darkness404 · · Score: 2

    ....Or it could be that the vast majority of applications and features that people use to get work done are cross platform. You can get e-mail on Blackberry, iPhone and Android. You can make calls on Blackberry, iPhone and Android. You can access webpages on Blackberry, iPhone and Android. And really, those three things is all most people need to get work done. So of course people are going to have different preferences and change phone models.

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  4. Re:bouncing around by amiga3D · · Score: 2

    It doesn't look as if people are bouncing from iPhone to Android but rather from Palm and Microsoft and Blackberry to Android. Apple's numbers flattened out a lot but they still had a slight climb whereas Android seems to be killing RIM, MS and Palm.

  5. It's just a rehash of the PC world of the 1980s! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is all just a rehash of the PC industry during the late 1970s and early 1980s. Back then, Apple had their proprietary hardware and software stack, and it did achieve a relatively high level of popularity, at least initially. There were other smaller players, like Amiga, Commodore and Tandy back then, and RIM and Nokia today, who offered their own platforms.

    Android is best compared to MS-DOS, oddly enough. It was about being a flexible OS that ran on a wide range of hardware from a wide range of vendors, and in many ways it maximized the freedom of developers and users alike. It did very little to dictate how programs could be implemented, who may use them, and how they may be distributed.

    We all know what happened. The most open of the platforms prevailed, and the rest were basically crushed into obscurity. Most went completely out of business. Apple, by far the strongest of them, only barely managed to survive the rest of the 1980s and early 1990s.

    I suspect that the same thing might be happening today. Although not the first, Apple took a commanding lead within the market. But facing competition from more open hardware and software, they don't have a hope in hell of surviving in the long run. It remains to be seen what will happen with Jobs in the near future, but if he departs from Apple for whatever reason, it's likely that they'll face yet another dark period like that between 1987 and 1999.

  6. Re:Yawn. by eparker05 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I assume you are referring to the continued feet dragging with the Honeycomb source.

    I would like to start by saying that many of the people complaining about this are people with little knowledge of the Android development cycle. For starters, the newest version of Android is always released closed source so that Open Handset Alliance partners get premium access. Eventually the versions are all released under the Apache license. The only difference between Honeycomb and previous versions is that Google is slowing down the release a bit. They have not reversed their commitment to open source it, they just delayed it.

    One of the most common complaints about Android is the fragmentation. This is one way that Google can slowly rein this in. If they are completely closed the source and locked the platform they will be much more like Apple. If they are completely open it will be more like Linux (Android distributions anybody?). It is in the middle ground where they can be both a little open, yet still control the platform and keep quality and homogeneity high.

  7. Re:This is a no-brainer. by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The reason why Blackberry is losing marketshare is because Android is taking over Blackberry's non-key markets. A lot of people used to have Blackberries because they were the cheapest smartphone you could get. If you were with Sprint or Verizon and didn't want to get a Windows Mobile smartphone, BlackBerry was your only option until Android really took over. And even on T-Mobile and AT&T, a Blackberry cost a lot less than a G1 or iPhone.

    Really, RIM made Blackberries for people who use their enterprise system, and for corporate people who check their e-mail every 5 seconds, and not as the general purpose smartphones that Android and iOS devices are. So when Android started gaining marketshare, it made sense for the people who simply got a Blackberry because it was cheap and had a Facebook app and a browser to migrate to Android.

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  8. Re:Look at that! by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I love open source it's because there's a zillion phones that run android. I suspect if you compare any one Android model against RIM or Apple's offerings then it won't look so good. Combine that with the fact Android owners seem less keen on paying for apps and I think you end up with the iphone or even blackberry being more attractive to a developer despite android's growth.

  9. Android and the common human by errandum · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What people miss is that most of those 30ish % are from low end devices. Those devices are mostly crap and give out a bad impression about the OS.

    I'm not too confident that android growth will be as big in the following years. Google should set up some minimum specs for Android phones!

    (I'm the proud owner of an HTC Desire, so I'm not bashing. Just stating something that has been on my mind lately..)

  10. PC world or video game console world? by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We all know what happened. The most open of the platforms prevailed

    This is true among home computers. But whether the smartphone market shapes up to be like the home computer market (where open won) or the set-top video gaming market (where closed won) hasn't entirely been decided. Android is in the lead now, but I'm not sure how much of that comes from people avoiding the iPhone to avoid AT&T. This can change as more Verizon Wireless contracts hit their 24th month, and it can also change come iPhone 5 and Sony NGP. But on the other hand, Apple doesn't have a low-end phone for use with prepaid service, unlike Sprint's Virgin Mobile USA which has a few Android phones now, and Apple has historically chosen not to compete in the extreme low-end.

    1. Re:PC world or video game console world? by cynyr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My bet is sadly on the closed one winning. Most people view phones* as appliances and as such they should just work.

      *I keep thinking of mine as a mini-laptop, but that still makes me a bit grumpy as i'd like to be able to script it, and tinker with it even more than CyanogenMOD will let me.

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    2. Re:PC world or video game console world? by by+(1706743) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My bet is sadly on the closed one winning. Most people view phones* as appliances and as such they should just work.

      I think that's a very accurate assessment (though I don't even have a smart phone). I'm all for toys and openness; I cut my teeth on Slackware (using Debian currently), don't take my car to the mechanic for trivial stuff, fix my audio gear myself (picked up a Dyna ST-70 for free a while back...score!) etc. But I can see a day when I'll want a system -- be it an entertainment system, a car or a smartphone -- that "just works." And sadly, this is more easily achieved when a single manufacturer controls the hardware.

      I'll probably get modded into oblivion because I'm pointing out the good side of a controlling company, but that's just my opinion. (And for the record, I think Apple's being ridiculous in the limiting-what-you-can-run department. I think it would make the most sense to have "Apple Approved" apps, and a free-for-all. If you want something that Just Works (and, if Apple did their job reviewing it, isn't malware), then stick to the official app store. Else, well, eat your heart out.)

    3. Re:PC world or video game console world? by unity100 · · Score: 2

      But whether the smartphone market shapes up to be like the home computer market (where open won) or the set-top video gaming market (where closed won) hasn't entirely been decided

      'hasnt been decided' ?

      man. it is the way human social dynamics work - the easiest, most accommodating, most open gets adopted eventually. EVERYthing after this mobile thing will unfold in the exact same way.

    4. Re:PC world or video game console world? by jon3k · · Score: 2

      Eh, it's kind of a strawman argument. You're implying that android phones don't "just work" which is not the case at all. Some Android phones are fantastic.

  11. Re:It's just a rehash of the PC world of the 1980s by clang_jangle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Android is best compared to MS-DOS, oddly enough. It was about being a flexible OS that ran on a wide range of hardware from a wide range of vendors, and in many ways it maximized the freedom of developers and users alike. It did very little to dictate how programs could be implemented, who may use them, and how they may be distributed.

    Sort of, but MS-DOS was proprietary and ran on relatively open hardware, while Android is the other way around.

    The most open of the platforms prevailed, and the rest were basically crushed into obscurity....I suspect that the same thing might be happening today.

    Not likely. Unfortunately, devices without locked bootloaders are the exception, not the rule. Most Android devices are not really any more open than the Blackberry in practice.

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  12. Re:It's just a rehash of the PC world of the 1980s by Angostura · · Score: 4, Funny

    We all know what happened. The most open of the platforms prevailed, and...

    .... that's why this is the year of Linux on the desktop.

  13. Market share != user share... by msauve · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The summary makes the mistake of confusing market share (sales) with installed base ("user share"). Android has had leading market share for some time, which is why their share of the installed base is increasing. CRT televisions still have a very large installed base, but a very low market share - the vast majority of new TVs are LCD/plasma. Windows 2000 still has a significant installed base, but almost zero market share.

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  14. Re:This is a no-brainer. by PipsqueakOnAP133 · · Score: 2

    Android didn't start out as the phone you see now. In fact, the early SDK resulted in something that looked like a Blackberry/WinMo clone. Quickly after iPhone, Android was being redesigned to mimic the iPhone. Having Google execs cancel the Kogan Agora sealed the fate of the old form factor.

    Manufacturers only started jumping on the Android bandwagon after seeing the iPhone's success, their own smartphone failures, and that Google bought Android to provide them a platform.

    We'll never find out what would have happened without the iPhone, but I'm not sure that Android would have gained manufacturer support had Google not bought it. And I'm not sure Google would have bought it on their own.