Re:But it's a good idea...
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Anonymous Coward
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Right. But they're not exactly filling in the form donating away their fortunes, are they? Otherwise they wouldn't remain "limousine liberals" for very long.
Re:But it's a good idea...
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sumdumass
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I would suggest that if we didn't encourage people to have a bunch of kids they cannot afford with the promise of government payments, you and him wouldn't be having that conversation and you would never have the opportunity to bring up one of the few situations in which almost anyone will agree that support is necessary as some justification for everything else.
But then again, pointing out the one situation in which something is helpful always does justify all the others. I mean we can get Linux and legitimate software on bit torrent and P2P networks so all the copyright violations are justified too right? Now if we could convince the rest of the world that.
Re:But it's a good idea...
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DamienNightbane
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We could avoid that problem by requiring everyone on government assistance to re-apply with their benefits being cut off entirely after three months if they don't re-apply, and then requiring everyone who applies to undergo a tubal ligation or vasectomy before receiving a single check.
Bam. Now everyone on the dole is almost guaranteed to be one of the people who genuinely needs help and nobody can just game the system by living off of our tax dollars for free and increasing their benefits by pumping out more and more kids they can't support in the first place.
Making people on the dole unable to vote in state, local, or national elections would prevent further abuse of the system by politicians, as they would be unable to buy votes with promises of handouts.
Back in the day, shame and pride kept people from taking government assistance unless they absolutely needed it. Since that seems to have vanished in the past fifty years, the only way to curb rampant abuse of the system is to make accepting that assistance come with some significant drawbacks.
Right. But they're not exactly filling in the form donating away their fortunes, are they? Otherwise they wouldn't remain "limousine liberals" for very long.
I would suggest that if we didn't encourage people to have a bunch of kids they cannot afford with the promise of government payments, you and him wouldn't be having that conversation and you would never have the opportunity to bring up one of the few situations in which almost anyone will agree that support is necessary as some justification for everything else.
But then again, pointing out the one situation in which something is helpful always does justify all the others. I mean we can get Linux and legitimate software on bit torrent and P2P networks so all the copyright violations are justified too right? Now if we could convince the rest of the world that.
We could avoid that problem by requiring everyone on government assistance to re-apply with their benefits being cut off entirely after three months if they don't re-apply, and then requiring everyone who applies to undergo a tubal ligation or vasectomy before receiving a single check.
Bam. Now everyone on the dole is almost guaranteed to be one of the people who genuinely needs help and nobody can just game the system by living off of our tax dollars for free and increasing their benefits by pumping out more and more kids they can't support in the first place.
Making people on the dole unable to vote in state, local, or national elections would prevent further abuse of the system by politicians, as they would be unable to buy votes with promises of handouts.
Back in the day, shame and pride kept people from taking government assistance unless they absolutely needed it. Since that seems to have vanished in the past fifty years, the only way to curb rampant abuse of the system is to make accepting that assistance come with some significant drawbacks.