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Celebrating 20 Years of Linux

dmbkiwi writes "2011 is the 20th anniversary of the first release of the Linux kernel by Linus Torvalds. Since that time, the Linux kernel, together with the GNU tools and a whole host of software has been developed by enthusiasts and professional programmers into an operating system that runs on tiny embedded systems right up to the world's fastest supercomputers." The Linux Foundation is hosting a celebratory gala at this year's LinuxCon.

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  1. Happy Birthday by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

    What do you get for the kernel that has everything?

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    1. Re:Happy Birthday by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 3, Funny

      What do you get for the kernel that has everything?

      A larger desktop market share and acceptance by the general population?

    2. Re:Happy Birthday by manpeach · · Score: 3, Funny

      Give Him a twenty dollar gift certificate at Pizza Jo's!

    3. Re:Happy Birthday by _0rm_ · · Score: 2

      Sounds like Canonical has that covered.

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    4. Re:Happy Birthday by npsimons · · Score: 2

      What do you get for the kernel that has everything?

      You joke, but I was just looking at a comparison of open source OSes, and Linux really DOES seem to have everything. I keep getting reminded of The "Last" OS comment. Truly insightful.

    5. Re:Happy Birthday by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stable API?

      Calm down. I'm joking. It has gotten better. Just the occasional, changing of the name of constants.

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    6. Re:Happy Birthday by 0racle · · Score: 2

      Multiscreen 3d acceleration?

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    7. Re:Happy Birthday by npsimons · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stable API?

      Oh please don't tell me you're another one of those going on about stable kernel API nonsense.

      Calm down. I'm joking. It has gotten better. Just the occasional, changing of the name of constants.

      Oh good. Well, you could just always go the route of getting your driver into the mainline kernel. Or hell, if that's too much trouble, ask them to write it for you. What's that you say? You want a binary interface so you can write closed source drivers? Well in that case, fuck off. It's called "open source" for a reason.

    8. Re:Happy Birthday by Jeek+Elemental · · Score: 3, Insightful

      decent competition?

    9. Re:Happy Birthday by jd · · Score: 2

      There's a lot of networking protocols (especially dealing with real-time TCP, networking over slow connections - eg DTP, QoS functions) that are missing and why the hell aren't things like Web100 and KTAU integrated with mainstream yet?!

      Documentation (eg: LARTC) is horribly out-of-date and usually sucks.

      The VAX port is missing.

      A number of newer filesystems (eg: btrfs, nilfs) still need work and there's a few good filesystems (eg: Polyserve's fs) that we don't have clean-room implementations of.

      More of the hooks that will be needed to provide a standard baseline for computer clustering (eg: MOSIX, Kerrighd, bproc) still need to be written out and implemented.

      QA. Variants of the kernel are FAA-approved, other variants are Carrier-Grade. It's doubtful the mainstream kernel can be either - at least for very long - but narrowing the gap will increase the number of people interested in high-end usage.

      More drivers. Not just for home stuff, but also for special-purpose stuff. I don't recall seeing any specific SCADA support, for example. There's way more crypto boards out there than there's drivers, and don't give me that nonsense that crypto should be in userspace - you can't drive a hardware accelerator at decent speed if you're context switching all the time. As for what a userspace driver does to security... *shudder* No, some things HAVE to be in the kernel even if it's not some people's preferences on policy grounds.

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    10. Re:Happy Birthday by npsimons · · Score: 2

      The Last OS? Isn't that what they said about Multics?

      Unfortunately, that was before my time. I have heard of Multics though; I think I may still have a scan of my first vi reference card that had MULTICS(or was that ULTRIX?) printed on it. But wasn't Multics written in PL/1? Perhaps that was the cause of it's downfall, whereas I don't see C going anywhere (especially for OS implementation) anytime soon.

      The key to Linux survivability, I think is that lots of people are working on it and using it; in other words, invested. To see the number of changes and technologies that have been integrated into Linux over the years is truly astounding; to imagine something that could replace it (something that would have all the benefits of Linux, and either improve upon its failings, or add something Linux could not), is not something easy to imagine.

    11. Re:Happy Birthday by node+3 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like Canonical has that covered.

      That gift must have got lost in the mail...

    12. Re:Happy Birthday by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually I'd say these two fit the situation better. That said Happy BDay, may you manage to keep the corps from TiVo tricking your code, and keep making it so any CPU in recorded history can have a Bash term and be hacked. Many happy returns and here's to another 20 years.

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    13. Re:Happy Birthday by obarthelemy · · Score: 2

      I'm really having a hard time finding beginner-level doc, especially finding documentation that is relevant to my distro, and its precise version.

      1st, there are so many possible places to scavenge for doc, that google is pretty much the only solution.
      2nd, most doc is outdated
      3rd, most doc assumes more linux knowledge than I have. Or a different distro. or a different version of the same distro.
      4th, honestly, forum support is rarely very friendly or efficient, especially for badly-phrased newb questions.

      Examples:
      I never could get the Remote Desktop (as in, MS's remoting protocol) client/server to run on my Ubuntu... 8.04 I think, at the time.
      I currently cannot access my Win7 PC's HD, unless I enable Everyone and disable the new sharing scheme Win7 offers (can't remember the name)
      I could never get rsynch to reliably synch my (NTFS) main drive to my (NTFS) backup drive, synching only the "changed since last time" files. an "xxcopy d: l: /clone" equivalent.

      I can read docs. I can apply them. I *can't* guess that since the version has changed, such-and-such need to be changed into so-and-so.

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  2. Re:damnit guys by MrEricSir · · Score: 2

    I didn't know Stallman had a Slashdot account...

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  3. The link is broken. by scharkalvin · · Score: 2

    Click on the underlined "20th anniversary of the first release of the Linux kernel " and you go nowhere.

  4. Re:damnit guys by Hatta · · Score: 4, Informative

    GNU dates from 1983. This is just the Linux kernel's anniversary.

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  5. Re:damnit guys by PhilHibbs · · Score: 5, Informative

    Linux is a kernel, and it's called Linux, and it's not part of the GNU project. A distribution that includes the GNU tool set and the Linux kernel is a GNU/Linux distribution. This is not a story about a GNU/Linux distribution, it's a story about the kernel. If you're going to be pedantic, get it right.

  6. Re:Holy crap ... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    I installed one of the first Slackware distros around 1993 or so on my old 486SX-25 with a whopping 70mb hard drive and 8mb of RAM, to run my BBS. I showed off running X and having folks dial in on one of my two phone lines, really flew once I had proper UART serial ports.

    Now I'm running Linux servers every bloody where; custom routers, SAMBA servers, LAMP servers, Postfix mail gateway.

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  7. Re:damnit guys by Jonner · · Score: 4, Informative

    I realize this is probably an attempt at humor, but it's not funny and a lot people still seem to be confused about the issue. Linux is 20 years old, but GNU is 27 years old. There are complete operating systems based on GNU (and not Linux) as well as those based on Linux with very little or no GNU components. The term GNU/Linux only makes sense when one is talking about an operating system based on both of them, which is by far the most common way to use either one of them.

  8. Re:This would be quite interesting... by sconeu · · Score: 2

    It's not Slashdot. It's a bogus link in the text, once again the editors fail.

    dmbkiwi writes <i>"2011 is the <a>20th anniversary of the first release of the Linux kernel</a> by Linus Torvalds.

    Note the lack of an HREF on the <a> tag.

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  9. Re:damnit guys by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Free Software Foundation didn't create Linux. Linus Torvalds created Linux and decided to license his code with the GPL. This little fact is the main reason that I call Linux by "Linux" and not "GNU/Linux".

    The OS kernel that should be tagged with "GNU" is Hurd since it is actually being created by the FSF therefore it should be called "GNU Hurd".

    Before the flaming commences, I'd like to defend myself by saying that I promote GNU software in the workplace and support their hard work. I do have some minor ideological differences with RMS, but that doesn't stop me from using GNU software or supporting the FSF.

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  10. Corrected link by sconeu · · Score: 2

    Since the one in TFS is bogus -- I got this from the firehose:

    Corrected Link

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  11. These things happen all too frequently by e9th · · Score: 4, Informative

    And in just 6 months, we'll all be celebrating the 15th anniversary of the first official release of OpenBSD.

  12. Re:damnit guys by Jonner · · Score: 2

    Even if RMS has a Slashdot account, I doubt he'd find any fault with this story, which correctly describes the role both Linux and GNU have played.

  13. August 26, 1991 by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Informative

    That was the date of the birth announcement.

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  14. Re:damnit guys by Panaflex · · Score: 2

    No, that's ESR(3702).... He used to post here a while back...

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  15. Re:This would be quite interesting... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

    The parent post is right. In FF4, links don't activate properly here on Slashdot. I don't know enough to figure it out, but it is only FF4 and Slashdot that I've seen this problem.

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