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Facebook To Be 'Biggest Bank' By 2015

angry tapir writes "The explosion of social networking commerce will lead to the unlikely candidate of Facebook becoming the world's biggest bank by the middle of the decade, according to a technology observer and entrepreneur. People who don't have a Facebook account should get one or risk having a financial profile created for them says founder and president of Metal International, Ken Rutkowski."

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  1. Rip off bank fees by vlm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How will it work culturally to have rip off bank fees on a "free" social networking site? If someone complains in a post about being ripped off, will they censor? Or will it be part of the criminally enforceable terms of service not to disparage FaceBank?

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    1. Re:Rip off bank fees by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 2

      Let's back WAY up.

      Facebook as a BANK?!

      How wrong is THAT?

      "FaceBook. The bank that Likes you."

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    2. Re:Rip off bank fees by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let's back WAY up.

      Facebook as a BANK?!

      How wrong is THAT?

      "FaceBook. The bank that Likes you."

      I think that to say "Facebook will be the worlds largest bank" is about as accurate as saying "Farmville will be the world's largest agricultural business".

    3. Re:Rip off bank fees by thsths · · Score: 2

      > "FaceBook. The bank that Likes you."

      Facebook - the first bank you don't want to trust, but you have to.

    4. Re:Rip off bank fees by vlm · · Score: 2

      MySQL doesn't do foreign keys? You using version 4.0 from 2003?

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    5. Re:Rip off bank fees by MoonBuggy · · Score: 5, Informative

      For those who haven't RTFA, that's actually a pretty good analogy. The reasoning they use seems to go something along the lines of: "Facebook credits are kind of like money. Also Facebook has a shitton of users. They'll probably be dealing direct with banks for an exchange mechanism soon enough. That makes them a bank with a shitton of customers, right?".

      By some fairly tenuous leaps of logic I can see what they're getting at, but it's hardly what the headline claims.

    6. Re:Rip off bank fees by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      Let's back WAY up.

      Facebook as a BANK?!

      How wrong is THAT?

      "FaceBook. The bank that Likes you."

      I think that to say "Facebook will be the worlds largest bank" is about as accurate as saying "Farmville will be the world's largest agricultural business".

      Or - Facebook owned mostly by Mark Zuckerberg.

      After yesterday's news about the Ceglia case and the way Zuckerberg has been diluting his share, if he ends up with 16%, he'll end up with far less than that.

      I'm waiting for what follows Facebook, thanks.

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    7. Re:Rip off bank fees by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      I'll take my chances managing my real money in the real world.

      I hear ya.

      I'm not on facebook due to privacy concerns enough as it is...I CERTAINLY am not going to let them be privy to my financial information.

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    8. Re:Rip off bank fees by Mitchell314 · · Score: 2

      NOOOOOOO. We don't need another Facebook*. D:

      * That's not "another Facebook" as in "another social site." I mean "another social site that has no serious competitors, gives halfhearted attempts at protecting privacy, and has their fuggin like button everywhere on the web."

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    9. Re:Rip off bank fees by Macrat · · Score: 2

      Also Facebook has a shitton of users.

      More like a shitton of marketing accounts.

    10. Re:Rip off bank fees by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2

      Reading the article (RTFA jokes follow here) made feel like I was watching a shell game.

    11. Re:Rip off bank fees by ruben.gutierrez · · Score: 2

      No, reading the article made you feel like you were playing 3-card Monte. Let me tell you why... When you're having your palm read, someone is trying to predict the future. If you've never had your palm read, you better start. Let me tell you why...

    12. Re:Rip off bank fees by chickenrob · · Score: 2

      How do mod points work now? I haven't had any mod points (that I know of) since the redesign.

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    13. Re:Rip off bank fees by AVee · · Score: 2

      How do mod points work now? I haven't had any mod points (that I know of) since the redesign.

      Stop using Internet Explorer, that will fix it.

  2. Metal International? Who? by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Funny

    More like Mental International, if he thinks anyone believes bullshit like that.

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  3. If this is true its a crap bank by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People who don't have a Facebook account should get one or risk having a financial profile created for them says founder and president of Metal International, Ken Rutkowski.

    If that's true its a crap bank. Can you imagine Bank of America, Barclays, or BNP Paribas saying "if you don't have an account already you better open one or someone else might do it in your name and build up a financial profile in your name"? If they are going to be a bank they should do some level of customer checking.

    1. Re:If this is true its a crap bank by delinear · · Score: 2

      Interesting point , if they hold a profile on me in my name, then Id be entitled to see it under my countries data protection laws.

      Unless you have a peculiarly unique name I suspect that's not the case. I don't have a right to look at the personal data of everyone who has the same name as me. Of course, if they're using more than just your name to tie that information directly to you that's a different matter.

  4. Wait, what? by Lord+Lode · · Score: 2

    Did I read this article correctly or did it say "they" will be using your FarmVille credits as a measure of your worth? What if you don't play FV?

  5. LOL - Facebook credits by halo_2_rocks · · Score: 5, Interesting

    LOL - You know there is an "new" internet bubble when they start saying Facebook credits are going to be worth more than the money you have in the bank. Hmmm - I wonder where we've heard this before?!?

    1. Re:LOL - Facebook credits by Spad · · Score: 3, Funny

      Indeed, if you believe that I've got some Flooz to sell you :)

    2. Re:LOL - Facebook credits by rufty_tufty · · Score: 4, Funny

      Got to also love the bit here:
      "Rutkowski[...] prides himself as being the fist person to coin the term “Web 3.0”"

      Fine I'm going to create the term Web 4.0.

      I'll get back to you in a few weeks to let you know what it means. Be sure to check my blog regularly for the announcement!

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    3. Re:LOL - Facebook credits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Deal. Can I pay you in Beenz?

  6. FUD, Bullshit, and lies .... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find this article to be somewhat lacking on credibility.

    This is some guy who claims to have invented "Web 3.0" telling us that traditional banks will be creating Facebook profiles on our behalf to track our credit rating? Based on what?

    âoeWhy is its important to have a profile? They are going to start using that to determine what your credit worthiness is.â

    âoeBy the way, if you donâ(TM)t have a profile they will make one for you so itâ(TM)s better for you to create it and manage it then them. Thatâ(TM)s why you want to be selective with what you put on there. If you have kids that are being idiots online make sure you stop them right away as they are creating a pretty negative profile long term and it happens often.â

    This is some marketing idiot who is trying to push an idea.

    I'm sorry, but this stupid article doesn't do anything to make me want to get a *(&%^&*$^ Facebook account. In fact, it reinforces the perception that Facebook is overhyped, with everybody thinking it's the most significant thing to ever happen.

    Biggest bank by 2015? Mandatory Facebook accounts? What drivel. Someone needs to give this guys a smack.

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    1. Re:FUD, Bullshit, and lies .... by turing_m · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is some guy who claims to have invented "Web 3.0"

      That's - that's good. That's good. Unless, of course, somebody comes up with Web 4.0. Then this guy's in trouble, huh?

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    2. Re:FUD, Bullshit, and lies .... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's - that's good. That's good. Unless, of course, somebody comes up with Web 4.0. Then this guy's in trouble, huh?

      He can call it "Web pi*r^2" for all I fucking care.

      If he's stupid enough to be envisioning a world in which Facebook is a bank and that it becomes mandatory that I have a profile otherwise a "real" bank (you know, one that's regulated and covered by banking laws) won't have anything to do with me ... well, then he's been smoking something which is likely illegal.

      This is one of those random internet prognostications put forth by someone who is trying to sell this to people, not by someone who has insight into what is going to happen. This is a marketing statement, and is therefore worthy of a kick in the nuts, and not much else.

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    3. Re:FUD, Bullshit, and lies .... by msauve · · Score: 2

      "Unless, of course, somebody comes up with Web 4.0."

      My Internet goes to 11.0!

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    4. Re:FUD, Bullshit, and lies .... by frenchbedroom · · Score: 2

      He asked Eric Schmidt at a conference, "What are you doing about Web 3.0 ?", and Schmidt replied something like "I think you're the inventor of this term"

      Well I have a PLAN to ONE UP this little dipshit. I'm gonna ask the FUCKING POPE, hey Palpatine, what are your thoughts on lolcat-olicism ? And he'll be like, "Dude. You just made that up. How d'you get past security btw ?"

      Then I can start my new RELIGION with cool business cards that go like :

      LOLCAT-OLICISM
      (Bros, the Pope says that name was revealed to me and me only, and he, uh, he knows about shit like that huh ?)

      OMG my plan is FLAWLESS. Even Google doesn't know about lolcat-olicism.

    5. Re:FUD, Bullshit, and lies .... by slackzilly · · Score: 2

      "OMG my plan is FLAWLESS. Even Google doesn't know about lolcat-olicism." They know now.

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  7. Re:Like PayPal is a bank? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This was actually the dumbest article ever posted on Slashdot. It makes "No Wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame" look like Pulitzer worthy reporting. I'm still hoping this is some sort of weird stupid joke.

  8. Re:Metal International? Who? by hey! · · Score: 3, Funny

    More like Mental International, if he thinks anyone believes bullshit like that.

    Close. It's actually *Mental Institutional*

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  9. Uh, yeah by wcrowe · · Score: 2

    "Also, I invented the question mark", Rutkowski added.

     

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  10. Re:Like PayPal is a bank? by DanTheStone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree. What a terrible prediction. Facebook trying to make it easy to exchange Facebook credits for currency doesn't make it a bank in any way that a normal person would consider a bank. They don't offer credit lines. People aren't sending money to each other through it. They're not even at PayPal levels of bank functionality.

  11. Facebook Bailout. by geekmux · · Score: 2

    "...People who don't have a Facebook account should get one or risk having a financial profile created for them says founder and president of Metal International, Ken Rutkowski."

    OK, who the hell is THIS guy to say that we all "need" to get a Farcebook account?!? Give me a break, real banks can barely manage real money, and yet we expect a social networking site to somehow manage it...better? Gee, I can't wait until my paycheck comes in the form of Farmville credits.

    God knows how the hell you would ever trust Fuckbook to handle real money with their privacy policies that change with the wind. Oops, sorry, we didn't mean to reveal your checkbook transactions to friends of friends of friends, but didn't you get that memo?(Office Space)

    I'm expecting Obama to call up Zuckerberg asking for a bailout soon...

  12. Real Estate by Wiarumas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In other news, Facebook will be the largest realtor by 2020. Better sign up and purchase a Facebook mortgage or else you might miss the bubble pop.

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  13. Will facebook be around? by pokyo · · Score: 2

    Will facebook still be around in 4 years? I half expected something else to have majority share by then

  14. Ha! by Capt+James+McCarthy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just created Web 4.0, it's all magic. The cloud is gone in Web 4.0. It has become a fog. Go to the fog. It will really obscure your view of anything real.

    Wonder if I'll get funding?

    As for the article, what a load of BS. These social sites only have value because eyeballs are watching them and nothing more. Once the eyeballs go away, so does their value. Much like a highly watched TV show. When it's hot actors and the stations get $$$$. Once it jumps the shark, they get canceled. For if anything holds true, Facebook too will jump the shark one day.

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  15. Re:2015+ #1 criminal charge, murder by thyroid rot by tgeller · · Score: 4, Funny

    This comment made more sense than the original post.

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  16. Questions... by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 2

    I have a few questions....

    1) If Facebook is becomes the biggest bank, does that mean they will be considered too big to fail and have to be bailed out when they do fail?
    2) Will Facebook have to comply with all banking regulations both in the States and abroad?
    3) If not #2, then won't this allow Facebook to be the new money laundering scheme of the this decade?

  17. In Related News by rlp · · Score: 2

    Facebook to apply for TARP funds from the Obama administration. :-)

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  18. XKCD by Sechr+Nibw · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can't believe this hasn't been posted yet...
    http://xkcd.com/605/

  19. Facebook is an interactive soap opera by mangu · · Score: 2

    we might have to face the awful reality of it not bursting (in any reasonable time period)

    Other than fucking your privacy in exchange for some petty gossip, facebook delivers no measurable value. It's just light entertainment, an interactive soap opera. There's no reason to believe this bubble won't burst.

    If you're after a social network that may bring some monetary rewards, look for linkedin, that's where you go to when you need a job.

  20. FARP by darien.train · · Score: 3, Funny

    If Facebook ever gets a bailout humanity officially becomes a doomed race.

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  21. Re:Metal International? Who? by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm sure there is. But it doesn't matter. It's 2011 - banks don't care about old-fashioned criteria like 'credit-worthiness' or 'proper identification'.

  22. Re:Like PayPal is a bank? by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 2

    My favorite part was where he said that your profile will be used in the future to determine credit worthiness, and if you don't have one it will be created for you. I stopped reading right there. This man is off his rocker.

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  23. Re:mod by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 4, Informative

    Metamod 30 posts in 6 batches of five per day maturely mostly modding up, except for a goatse down, without playing games and you'll get some soon.

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  24. Re:mod by HungryHobo · · Score: 2

    I think I've metamodded a handful of posts ever and I still get modpoints regularly.

    and I rarely actually use them. I mostly keep them for comments I spot which are genuinely informative or interesting which aren't already at 5 so most of them expire.