White House To Drop Details of Cyber ID On Tax Day

BeatTheChip writes "Dept. of Commerce Scry. Gary Locke plans to release solidified details of the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace [NSTIC] program starting 11 AM on Tax Day. Technologies and new policies will be demonstrated and discussed to attending press. NSTIC, a federal cyber identity program, drew criticisms earlier this year on initial announcement for similarities to a national identity program. It was deemed 'Real ID for the Internet' by some privacy and civil liberty organizations. NSTIC is a national online authentication program for public use under the oversight of the Dept. of Homeland Security."

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[elrous0]

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[Toe, The]

Sigh. Yeah, let's just use people's Facebook identity as their trusted ID.
I can't think of a single reason why that might not be a superb idea.

P.S. Oh, hey! Let's also let the voting machines be designed by the private sector, in closed source on Windows. That can't possibly be a problem, right?

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[lgw]

How many times do we have to discuss this? The answer is computer-assisted voting.

You go to the machine with the touch screen and the pictures of the candidates and the assistance for the blind and whatever else, and make your choices. The machine then prints a normal ballot, which you review and drop into a normal ballot box. If the machine wants to count votes for a quick report to the press, fine, but that's unofficial. No more questionably-marked ballots, and no need to trust the machine (just look at the printed ballot before casting it). It's so obviously the best of both worlds, it blew me away at first.

Of course, something so obviously right will never be used, but at least we on Slashdot should all understand it.

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[Culture20]

If you can prove how you voted, you can sell your vote. Plus, people are attacked for political beliefs in the most civilized countries. Don't let fantasy dictate cautionary measures.

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[GameboyRMH]

Without TPM this idea is a joke. I think you can see where this is going.

*Puts on tinfoil hat*

[penguinman1337]

I am honestly afraid that this is basically going to turn into an internet driver's license. Imagine if you were required to get government approval in order to read a book? This violates all kinds of freedom of speech provisions. I'll wait to see the details before I make a final judgement, but I much prefer being able to remain effectively anonymous online.

Re:*Puts on tinfoil hat*

[penguinman1337]

You're right, individual sites have every right to enforce TOS on their individual site. If I don't like it, I can go make my own blog somewhere and say whatever the hell I want. Imagine for a moment if a browser's license was required.

"Hello, this is the Internet Police, you have gotten too many anti-social points on your internet license. It is hereby suspended for the next 6 months."

Re:*Puts on tinfoil hat*

[element-o.p.]

Not sure if you've heard, but for the last ten years, Commanders-in-Chief from both of the major political parties have been busy stacking that judicial branch with their poster boys/girls (Roberts, Thomas, and Alito courtesy of GWB, and Sotomayer and Kagan courtesy of Obama) while doing everything they can to gut and/or reinterpret the Constitution . I'm not holding out a whole lot of hope that the courts are going to do a whole lot to help out...if you even manage to get to the courts before being dragged off to Gitmo for providing "material aid or support" to "terrorist organizations".

And this is just the @#$!!! we have heard about. Somehow I suspect, no matter how bad you think it is...it's actually much, much worse.

Welcome

[xMrFishx]

Welcome to City 17. You have chosen or been chosen to relocate to one of our finest remaining urban centres...

Re:this is very scary

[Jackie_Chan_Fan]

Because CNN and Fox news wont report it...

And thats because their parent companies want it.

Re:That's Not How It Works

[majestic_twelve]

It will be voluntary until businesses only accept transactions associated with this ID and, like EULA's which are also completely voluntary, people will simply "agree" and go along with it so they can watch their porn, buy their Amazon merchandise, or whatever have you.

Re:That's Not How It Works

[penguinman1337]

Yeah, right. According to Uncle Sam, SSNs are also voluntary. And while it may be voluntary according to the government, what's to prevent ISPs from requiring it for internet access?

And how is this private? Sure, it might just share enough info to complete a transaction on any specific site, but what's to prevent the administrator of the program (in this case the highly trustworthy US government) from using it to track citizens who happen to be doing things they don't approve of? For example, making a donation to a group that has contrary views to said government (for example, if I decided to donate to the American Communist Party.)

Re:Democracy

[amiga3D]

You're absolutely wrong. It is a Republic, a representational government. If you look at the US congress you see the US citizenry. Weak, corrupt, dishonest, self centered, exactly like the people they represent. Don't leave out ignorant and greedy either. I guess you could call it an idiocracy. I looked at the last presidential election with despair. Obama and Biden vs. McCain and Palin. It makes me sick to think about it even now. This is the best either party has to offer us. The best they have. Think on that. Then turn on the TV and watch all the mental drivel that passes for entertainment. People actually watch that stuff. It's depressing.

Re:this is very scary

[element-o.p.]

why aren't citizens revolting over this?

Because our government is revolting enough?

Re:That's Not How It Works

[WorBlux]

Lets' see.. ever since cash has been legal tender.

Re:That's Not How It Works

[Em Adespoton]

Since when have legitimate businesses allowed transactions with anonymous people? If you want my stuff, you have to pay for it, and I have to know to whom to send the stuff, and the banking system has to know whose account to debit before it can credit mine. Illegitimate businesses will continue not to require ID.

Your objection is nonsensical.

This is a bit of a straw man; I have no problem with a legitimate business knowing who I am... I get a little nervous when the government gets to know about every *potential* business transaction I make, however -- which is what this system would do.

See: this ID is virtually identical to the loyalty rewards cards that many businesses use nowadays; they're completely voluntary, but you don't get full access/all the deals/etc. without them, so everyone uses them.

Except in this case, instead of one company having a loyalty card and selling the data to marketing firms, you have the government having the loyalty card, and *all* online businesses using it. It's actually scarily similar to what's happening with FaceBook IDs (I've stumbled across a disturbingly large number of businesses recently that require you to hand over your facebook ID to access some of their site content).