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RIM Co-CEO Cries 'No Fair' On Security Question

bulled writes "When asked about letting governments in Asia and the Middle East into the 'secure' message service used by their BlackBerry devices, Mike Lazaridis, the co-chief executive of RIM, walked out of the interview and said, 'We've dealt with this, the question is no fair.' By 'dealt with,' we can only assume he meant: 'been paid handsomely to let governments read what they wish.'"

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  1. goatse g oatse go atse goa tse goat se goats e goa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's your right to walk away from an interview at any time. There's not even anything wrong with it unless you've specifically promised to answer all questions.

    However, this was still pretty rude and even silly of him. Some choice information-poor statements would probably have been much more effective than this - now it's been on the Slashdot and more importantly on the BBC News front page. He could just as well have said "we're doing something shady you don't like."

  2. "No fair"? by NeuralAbyss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think we can safely assume that Blackberry is about as secure as a wet paper bag in countries where the device has become "commercially successful" and the government is less than interested in maintaining privacy.

    Mentioining "national security" at the end of the video is a clear sign that RIM has well and truly given in on their claims of absolute security for the sake of maintaining a moderately-successful business.

    Never trust the security of communications where the keys are being handled by someone outside your organisation.

  3. Re:IOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All these comments about this are little bit childish.. Like "By dealt with, we can only assume he meant 'been paid handsomely to let governments read what they wish.'" what the hell, you probably know fully well what he means.

    Look, there's nothing Blackberry can do about it and it's not their job. It's not like they would be able to fight it if USA was the same. It's the people in general who will need to deal with their governments, not some single random company that is just selling products for the market. Stop being childish and stop these immature comments. If you want, YOU go change those governments minds.

  4. You made your bed, now lie in it. by Immostlyharmless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can't advertise a service or a device as being secure, and then sell the keys to the locks to the highest bidder. Fuck RIM. I hope they burn. My wife wanted a blackberry on this last go round of upgrades. Nope.

  5. Your take is jejune by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, sure. You have the right to walk away anytime. You have the right to walk out of class, out of work; unless you're in prison or the military, you always have the right to walk away.

    But how can he not anticipate this question? Its been the number 1 question of RIM for the last 24 months, and he thinks its *unfair* he was asked about it?

    He's either naive or an idiot. In either case, he was unprepared for an interview if he wasn't ready to talk about RIM's #1 issue.

    If I was a major shareholder, he wouldn't impress me.

    1. Re:Your take is jejune by tukang · · Score: 5, Interesting

      But how can he not anticipate this question? Its been the number 1 question of RIM for the last 24 months, and he thinks its *unfair* he was asked about it? He's either naive or an idiot.

      Another possibility is that he's very aware that this has been a hot issue and had an agreement with the interviewer not to go into that. Maybe that's what he meant by "We've dealt with this" i.e. "You and I had an agreement not to talk about this". Not saying that's what happened but I wouldn't be surprised.

  6. Let's be professionals, people by cgenman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The RIM CEO called an end to an interview when he realized (after a minute and a half) that he was just being ambushed with a combative line of questioning. The interviewer had no interest in him answering the questions, he just wanted to make the CEO look bad in order to get ratings. This is, unfortunately or fortunately, rather common in british television. But in this case, it does seem genuinely unfair.

    The interviewer knows that governments demand access to people's communications. All American telcos give call logs and e-mail histories pretty regularly to the government. Same with British ones. In this case, *we* don't trust the Saudi's with our communications, yet we somehow trust the US government with them.

    Blackberry spent a lot of money building up a successful business in the middle east. Then they had to take their entire business offline while they added these backdoors for the government. When the king holds your entire business for ransom, with the requirement that you do for them what you do for every other government out there, you do it. Whining and complaining about RIM's "security problems" is just childish. And ambushing the CEO on film in an attack segment to make him look bad for something that he, and everyone else was forced to do, is definitely not fair.

    1. Re:Let's be professionals, people by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The RIM CEO called an end to an interview when he realized (after a minute and a half) that he was just being ambushed with a combative line of questioning. The interviewer had no interest in him answering the questions, he just wanted to make the CEO look bad in order to get ratings. This is, unfortunately or fortunately, rather common in british television.

      I respect British Journalists far more than I respect American ones because the Brits are always willing to go into interviews and hammer away at uncomfortable questions.

      I enjoy watching the Q&A sessions in Parliment for much the same reasons.

      But in this case, it does seem genuinely unfair.

      Asking for the truth is never unfair.

      When the king holds your entire business for ransom, with the requirement that you do for them what you do for every other government out there, you do it. Whining and complaining about RIM's "security problems" is just childish.

      Time and time again the western world has been bitten in the ass by what it has enabled in developing nations.
      Complaints about Western companies enabling repressive governments is not "childish"

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    2. Re:Let's be professionals, people by cgenman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I definitely think the British system of asking hard questions is usually superior to the American system of being desperately afraid of offending their guests. But in this case, it was clearly framed in a sensationalist and unfair way.

      Complaints about Western companies enabling repressive governments is completely legitimate. If the interviewer had asked "How do you plan on guaranteeing privacy to your customers in the territories that have demanded universal access?" that might be legitimate. If the interviewer initiated a legitimate discussion about the requirements of balancing customer and government requirements in oppressive regimes, it would have been a great segment.

      That's not what the interviewer asked. The interviewer asked, for a minute and a half, over and over in a hostile cross-examination fashion, if they were going to fix their "security problems." And all of the comments here are along the line of "RIM decided to screw their customers for massive piles of cash!" That's not a discussion, and that's not adding anything to the overall knowledge pool.

  7. Re:IOW by MetalFingers · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look, there's nothing Blackberry can do about it and it's not their job.

    They are providing a device which boasts security. It is precisely their job. Instead, they've provided the technology for a government to snoop on their citizens communications. Where do i begin with the issues there?

  8. Re:IOW by funkatron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look, there's nothing Blackberry can do about it and it's not their job. It's not like they would be able to fight it if USA was the same. It's the people in general who will need to deal with their governments, not some single random company that is just selling products for the market. Stop being childish and stop these immature comments. If you want, YOU go change those governments minds.

    Correct, it is not RIM's job to oppose shit governments. However, it IS RIM's job to tell you exactly what they are selling to you and this includes security implications. Failing to answer a simple question doesn't bode well on that front.

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  9. Re:IOW by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's probably more fair to say, "They were given the choice to provided the technology for a government to snoop on their citizens communications, or suspend business in that governments jurisdiction." Sounds like chasing the dollar at the expense of their core competency to me.

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  10. Wrong Job by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's your right to walk away from an interview at any time.

    True. However if you are the CEO of a major international corporation and you cannot handle a reasonable, politely asked question from a major international media organization you are in the wrong job.

  11. Re:whats not fair by grcumb · · Score: 5, Informative

    whats not fair is RIM backdooring their product to appease third word oppressive regimes.

    They didn't. Prove it or shut up.

    Uh, yeah. They did.

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  12. Re:So what by grcumb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Honestly, if you're angry because RIM, or Google, or Microsoft, or whoever isn't trying to stick it to every dictatorship, you're an idiot. If the US government goes and tries to say a dictator is being too mean (perhaps by killing them), they're the terrible World Police. But if RIM refuses to do the same thing, you get angry. You're an angry, fickle group of people.

    RIM is Canadian. I'm Canadian. Canadians don't do the World Police thing. Canadians do the Constable Rescuing the Kitten thing. Now, in this case, RIM is rescuing the kitten, then selling it to the dodgy-looking restaurant on the corner. We Canadians don't like that.

    Worse, by walking out on the BBC (the BBC!) they're acting impolitely. In Canada, acting impolitely results in terrible punishment.... Well actually, it mostly just results in frosty stares - we're too polite to actually punish someone. But those stares, man - we can stare frostier than just about anyone. Except the Russians. The Russians are pretty frosty starers. And the Swedes. Their stare is actually known as The Frost.

    Mod down if you disagree.

    That would be rude and unfair. As a Canadian, I'd much prefer to tell you to take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut instead. I'd prefer it, but as a Canadian, I'm limited to suggesting that you kindly launch yourself toward that fallen dessert and embrace it with passion and vigour.

    ... And have a nice day!

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  13. Re:So what by grcumb · · Score: 5, Funny

    RIM is Canadian. I'm Canadian. Canadians don't do the World Police thing.

    Um. WW1. WW2. Korea. Cyprus. Golan. Bosnia. Kosovo. Somalia. Afghanistan. Haiti.

    I can tell you're Canadian - you don't know shit about our history, or our current events. Most people here are WAY too focused on the US.

    And you must be from Ontario: not even the ghost of a sense of humour.

    Would you kindly launch yourself toward that fallen dessert and embrace it with passion and vigour?

    ... And have a nice day!

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