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Armenia Makes Chess Compulsory In Schools

Hugh Pickens writes "AFP News reports that chess will become a required subject in primary schools in Armenia, where children from the age of six will learn chess as a separate subject on the curriculum for two hours a week. The lessons, which start later this year, will 'foster schoolchildren's intellectual development' and teach them to 'think flexibly and wisely', says Arman Aivazian, an official at the Ministry of Education. President Serzh Sarkisian, an enthusiastic supporter of the game, has committed around $1.5 million to the scheme in a move to turn the country of 3.2 million people into a global force in the games, says Aivazian. 'Teaching chess in schools will create a solid basis for the country to become a chess superpower.' Armenia's national team won gold at the biennial International Chess Olympiad in both 2006 and 2008, and the country's top player, Levon Aronian, is currently ranked number three in the world."

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  1. Brilliant! by Bifurcati · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Their president should be Knighted! :)

    Seriously, though, this is an intriguing way of fostering logical/analytical/creative thinking. I wonder if there is any peer reviewed literature on the impact of chess on children?

    1. Re:Brilliant! by Bifurcati · · Score: 5, Informative
      Replying to myself, some further googling [PDF] shows a number of studies that suggest a link between learning chess and improved performance. There does seem to be evidence that learning chess improves performance (although there also seems to be some studies that suffer from correlation/causation issues; without reviewing each study individually, I'm also suspicious that some studies might not have controlled for the fact that any intervention produces improvement, not just learning chess. But the devil is in the details, and there's a broad trend towards improvement).

      Looks like chess is already being taught in the Phillipines too?

    2. Re:Brilliant! by openess · · Score: 2

      I think they'r better off playin GO in schools, for fostering "logical/analytical/creative thinking". This seems to be aimed at fostering chessplayers.

    3. Re:Brilliant! by migla · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yup. I'd be interested to know if maybe some Battle for Wesnoth or Nethack might produce some results too, especially considering some pupils might find playing those more enjoyable.

      (And there would of course be plenty of other examples aswell.)

      If I was the supreme principal of the land, I'd draw up goals regarding logic and whatnot that the chess-playing is desired to accomplish and have teachers and kids find the most suitable game for each. I don't think chess can be the best fit for everyone.

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    4. Re:Brilliant! by Blackajack · · Score: 2

      Not just Nethack, but any roguelike without save scumming teaches some VERY important life lessons about decisions and forethought..

    5. Re:Brilliant! by X10 · · Score: 2

      They will achieve something bigger than being a chess superpower. They will have kids that have learned to think. To think really hard.

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    6. Re:Brilliant! by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      Then correct my mistakes.
      Or how do you expect me to understand what you don't understand?

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    7. Re:Brilliant! by migla · · Score: 3, Funny

      LOL. I'm an idiot. I can't follow the structure of parent and child posts here. Please disregard the misplaced passive-aggressiveness. I'm sorry.

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    8. Re:Brilliant! by SharpFang · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're forgetting this is Armenia.
      A mass-produced chessboard with a set of pieces is like $0.30 imported in bulk from China.
      Getting a computer capable of running Battle for Wesnoth may be beyond capabilities of most schools, and even if they have a computer lab, it is likely occupied most of the time by IT classes, simply no time to occupy it for another 2h a week for each group. And funding another computer lab just for playing nethack...?

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    9. Re:Brilliant! by Kashgarinn · · Score: 2

      I don't think chess has any real benefits except to pass time with a friend doing something fun. Learning chess trains spatial calculations constricted to game mechanics, as well as memorisation of movements.

      If you want to train the brain, I'd much rather see more music training in schools. Learning music teaches a lot more senses, i.e. rythm, tonal acuity, reading (notes), dexterity with an implement, memory.

      I'm probably missing a few things from both, but learning music I'd believe gives someone more brain-training, if that's the goal.

    10. Re:Brilliant! by vlm · · Score: 2

      A mass-produced chessboard with a set of pieces is like $0.30 imported in bulk from China.

      On a rainy vacation day I played a couple chess games using a single sheet of paper, and a pile of rocks. As you'll probably guess, the two lighter colored rocks with "B" markered on them are the white bishops, etc. Checkers and Go sets are even easier to make.

      Which is why this will NEVER be allowed in the USA... no way for the educational-industrial complex to make money.

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    11. Re:Brilliant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe you should play more chess...

    12. Re:Brilliant! by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2
      Some of the most inept people I know are serious chess players. How many of them do you know? They spend all their time studying chess, when they could have spent their time learning something useful. Don't take my word for it, though, another man said it better 500 years ago:

      "[Chess] is certainly a pleasing and ingenious amusement, but it seems to have one defect, which is that it is possible to have too much knowledge of it, so that whoever would excel in the game must give a great deal of time to it, as I believe, and as much study as if he would learn some noble science or perform well anything of importance; and yet in the end, for all his pains, he only knows how to play a game. Thus, I think a very unusual thing happens in this, namely that mediocrity is more to be praised than excellence."
      - Castiglione, The Book of the Courtier, 1528, Book II para. 31, Singleton translation

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  2. Meanwhile in the USA... by dogsbreath · · Score: 4, Funny

    Creationism is elevated to the status of scientific theory to be taught in schools.

    Hmmmm, boy those Armenians sure have their education priorities wrong.

    1. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by thephydes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately your comment was labelled "Funny". "Sad but true" would have been more accurate. I can assure non-believers (in chess) that many of my best students in Math are also very good chess players. Correlation yes, causative maybe but the thinking processes seem to be similar.

    2. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      I think that, when deciding to make something a compulsory subject, the correlation/causation issue is serious business.

      My experience with very smart, very motivated people is that they almost always have one or more cool hobbies at which they are pretty good. Sometimes ones that you would expect based on their primary subject area, sometimes rather surprising ones. If you take one of those hobbies and make it a compulsory class, though, the question of whether it will improve the outcomes of the selection of students thrown into it is far from clear(especially since the new class is necessarily trading off against some other use of the time and teachers, it isn't good enough to be better than nothing, you have to be better than whatever you would have been doing instead).

    3. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by dogsbreath · · Score: 2

      Wow, that comment came out of left field, didn't it? How's this applicable to chess? Stupid Americans, always relating to the world by thinking of themselves first...it's not all about you. Really.

      Sorry, I don't understand these baseball analogies. We did not play baseball in school. My guess is you are trying to pay a compliment (left field? lefties are smarter right?) and you are genuinely asking how chess in school is related to creationism in school and how in the heck is that related to priorities in education.

      Well... and I'll keep it vewy vewy simple here: I don't know. Just seemed funny to me and I guess to others. If you have to explain the joke....

      Finally, I believe you inferred that I implied that this means "Americans" are "Stupid". Au contraire, mon frere. I think citizens of countries in North America are on the whole, Smart. Just sometimes, some of us, and in this case some United Statesians, act Stupid or do Stupid things.

      Elevating creationism to the level of scientific theory is stupid.

      Hey! I just got it! Teaching creationism is stupid! And teaching chess is smart! That's the joke! Well doggie. I have to thank you for your comment as I did not realize what I had actually said.

      All in all I have to agree with what I infer that you implied: this is NOT funny at all! Oh, and it isn't all about me ---- you are right again --- it is all about you.

      Thanks for that!

    4. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by dogsbreath · · Score: 2

      I disagree with you across the board (pun). Seriously, chess is a great tool for both tactical and strategic thinking... it does not have to be "an end unto itself". The fact that the most famous chess people have been obviously obsessive-compulsive should neither be surprising nor an indictment of chess as a narrow path to an intellectual dead end.

      Perhaps you believe that learning chess for people, not computers, is simply a process of learning a finite myriad of canned games and situations. You also seem to be believe that the difficulty of a game is only governed by the constraints or lack of constraints on how an individual game piece moves. Both beliefs are wrong.

      Say that all pieces on a chess board had the move constraints removed: all move like a Knight/Queen, any direction and no blocking. Suddenly there is no game. All pieces threaten almost all other pieces all of the time. Both Kings are under check and mate at the same time. To be sure this is the trivial case but there it is.

      A competent chess strategist / tactician can easily confound a memory based player without memorizing positions and sequences. Although I was hardly a chess whiz, a very good friend taught me how to win at levels beyond my knowledge by using power tactics, playing for complexity, and planning on the overconfidence of the opponent to cause him/her to commit a grave mistake. Very unnerving for a rated player to get trounced by a relative neophyte who knows how to undermine their opponent. Somewhat Machiavellian but instructive and useful in life.

      In a series of games I would get smoked but in a one-off I could hold my own against the odds.

      It is a curious question "why are well known chess masters also not polymaths, CEOs, and world famous research scientists". That is kind of bass-ackwards. The world's top tennis players are not the worlds top CEOs either, at least not all or even most. Just because you have a huge talent asset in one are does not mean there is the same asset depth in all areas. Really, this is just a silly question.

      A better question would be "how many top scientists, polymaths, CEOs etc etc play chess and value the game"? Much more relevant and meaningful.

  3. This is genius by Riceballsan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For more reasons then one. First off it's roughly as valid if not more then say algebra and similar subjects when it comes to a career, algebra is specifically taught more or less as a subject that is useless in most lines of work on its own, but teaches the brain to think in ways it will need to. Secondly, it is a competitive activity. Why do Japanese students tend to do so much better then american students, simple they compete in mental subjects, the grades are posted on a giant board for everyone to see, and are ranked from smartest to dumbest. In america grades are confidential, we can't risk students self esteem getting hurt when they are made fun of for being dumb, so we have to hide that from them and allow only 1 subject where they will be mocked for being bad at Gym. Guess what subject our kids focus on and practice to avoid looking dumb in front of their friends, yup we pump out thousands of idiots who are hoping for the 1 in a billion shot at being a professional athlete. If we brought the same criticism to chess, I have a feeling we'd get many more future programmers etc due to their minds actually being trained. Worse case scenario, chess boxing would become the next big thing.

    1. Re:This is genius by syousef · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you realise the irony in complaining that schools aren't competitive enough, while simultaneously complaining that people are competing to be that 1 in a billion athelete?

      We don't need competition. Competition tells you if you're not the best, you're a worthless loser. We don't need a hundred confident competitive giants and a million suicidal losers. What you need is to make the learning itself worthwhile.

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    2. Re:This is genius by Zaphod+The+42nd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      His argument was that if you compete to be good at academia, then there are more potential jobs to take advantage of the skills you gain from competition, than there are jobs where we need people who are extremely good at athletics. There's no paradox or contradiction, and you're misusing the word irony.

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    3. Re:This is genius by SharpFang · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except if you are -very- competetive about athletics, you don't have time for properly learning all the rest (but being a promising athlete helps to pass).

      You're just barely getting by, and in the end you are not competent in your learned work field. You're extremely competetive though, so you do get to a higher (managemental) position than the nerds who didn't compete at sports and learned their job instead.

      And that's the image of your current corporate structure. Highly competetive, aggressive, and utterly incompetent jerks are the managers, meanwhile talented experts stay at the bottom, because not being very competetive doesn't fit the image of a "person deserving a success" for the managers, who, after all, fought tooth and nail for their positions.

      Yes, it's true there is a lot of jobs which are easier to get if you have all the competetive skills. It's easier to get a better-paying job that way. It's definitely profitable to the person in question. It's just utterly harmful to the whole system.

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    4. Re:This is genius by pnot · · Score: 2

      Why do Japanese students tend to do so much better then american students, simple they compete in mental subjects, the grades are posted on a giant board for everyone to see, and are ranked from smartest to dumbest. In america grades are confidential, we can't risk students self esteem getting hurt when they are made fun of for being dumb

      That's one way to do it. But Finland gets even better results using an absolute minimum of grading, streaming, ranking, testing, and public shaming of the "dumbest" -- with far fewer hours spent in school or private tuition to boot. And I dare say it results in happier, less stressed kids too. Of course I'm not saying that just throwing out the grading is sufficient to improve standards -- the linked article has a little more detail on the other important factors (well-trained, well-paid, respected teachers, for a start).

    5. Re:This is genius by shoemilk · · Score: 2

      . Why do Japanese students tend to do so much better then american students, simple they compete in mental subjects, the grades are posted on a giant board for everyone to see, and are ranked from smartest to dumbest.

      I don't know the last time you went to Japan was (if ever) but this is 100% not true. I should know, I work in a Japanese Jr High. The only incidence I can think of close to this is for the driving test and HS/ uni entrance results. However, they are posted with numbers not names. No one knows your number but you.

  4. Good move by Renderer+of+Evil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I studied 2 years of chess in Armenia, beginning from grade 4 in a 10 year secondary system. Of course, this was during Soviet times and you were allowed to choose from a range of subjects. It wasn't compulsory. My grades in other subjects improved dramatically as a result.

    Really glad this is happening.

    1. Re:Good move by yeltski · · Score: 2

      Even though the nazi party committed crimes against humanity on a regular basis Germany wasn't an evil empire with sole purpose of doing evil.

      Yes, it was, you idiot. Do you understand the difference between Nazism and Communism? Communism is the dictatorship of the proletariat born in the fight against oppression of the British capitalist elites. Nazism is the dictatorship of the supreme race inheriting from the British and international capitalist elites. In the name of my grandparents who fought and died for communist ideals, fuck you.

  5. Armenian children sitting in school by Centurix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Plotting, scheming. Next it'll be mandatory reading of Sun Tzu's Art of War, Animal Farm and 1984. Apple stores burnt to the ground. Halted sales of converse to Hipsters. Mandatory prison sentences for anyone using a laptop at Tzarbucks. These are the children of the future...

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    1. Re:Armenian children sitting in school by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      Lol ....

      Next it'll be mandatory reading of Sun Tzu's Art of War, Animal Farm and 1984.

      So this three are not mandatory readings in your country ... for god sake, what do you read? Mickey Mouse?

      angel'o'sphere

      P.S.
      Unfortunately in my country they are not only mandatory reading (except Sun Tzu's) in german, but *also* in the english class.

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  6. Don't want any more Kardashians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder if the Armenian Government is afraid of producing more Kardashians.

  7. Oblig. by clickclickdrone · · Score: 2

    I for one welcome our chess playing overlords.

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  8. Personal Experience by SuperCharlie · · Score: 2

    My dad taught me chess when I was around 10 and we played regularly until I was out of high school. In 11th-12th grade we played 2-3-4 hour games almost nightly. I eventually won more than I lost before I moved out.

    Of all the things, I think it taught me how to think many steps ahead on projects and tasks and improved my analytical thinking immeasurably.

    Kudos for Armenia on this..there is nothing bad about it.

  9. Not to be outdone by pablo_max · · Score: 3, Funny

    American schools in the south have mandated that schools shall now teach Tiddlywinks in an effort to increase manual dexterity so as to reduce the likelihood of burger flipping injuries for future generations.
    The class shall follow directly after the new science curriculum, "7 days, the making of Earth".

  10. Poker -- Randomness and Partial Information by dcollins · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If there's any game I would want required for students it would be: Poker. (I say this, having been weaned on chess as a kid, and having won a competition in high school.) The problem with chess is at least twofold, in that it has both (a) full information, and (b) no randomness, a bad model for real-world applications, which will not present themselves that way. I'd rather have people playing poker and dealing with (a) probability, (b) partial information, (c) logic and deduction, (d) psychology and reading people, (e) betting and expected values, etc.

    The last test I gave in a community college stats class had this question: "True or false: If I roll a fair die 36 times, a one will come up 6 times." Almost everyone in the class said "true". Afterward, I had one of my better students remark with surprise, "So it's not certain?" I'd love to not have to introduce the very idea of probability to students for the first time when they're sophomores in college.

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    1. Re:Poker -- Randomness and Partial Information by FrootLoops · · Score: 2

      Interesting. Poker has some seedier characteristics I don't think would fit well in schools--like how it encourages manipulation and gambling. It would improve probability skills, though. I'm sure if I had had to play poker regularly in school I would have computed various probabilities and maybe learned to count cards, since I'm both competitive and good at math. I can see myself learning/deriving basic combinatorics and probability in that case. I also might have learned to read people better, earlier.

  11. Re:These people understand Education by FrootLoops · · Score: 2

    I can just imagine a choice between gym class and Go class. I know which I would have picked!

  12. Re:Produce some results by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

    Studying Chess is in no way equivalent to studying Go. The study of Chess is about memorizing openings, endgames, game positions, and strategies; the study of Go is about understanding. Some people like to memorize as much Joseki as they can; but most professionals study and understand some Joseki, then abandon memorization of piles of Joseki and all 25,000 variations because they know how moves play out. More importantly, which josek, tesuji, etc to use depends on the whole board position, and (by extension) on the timing of play; the 3-3 invasion behind the 4-4 early in the opening is a mistake. As far as openings go in general, there are some (nirensen, sanrensen, high/low/mini chinese, etc); but they are rather variable, and the decision on how and when to approach, what approach to use, how to extend, etc is a matter of goals.

    There is no book of all good Go openings; the openings are a framework, with many variations, responses, etc. What actually happens is a matter of complex strategy.