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RockMelt: Google Chrome, Only Better

Barence writes "PC Pro has an in-depth review of RockMelt, a new browser which it claims is better than Google Chrome. RockMelt is built on the same Chromium core as Google's browser, but adds a host of social networking, news feed and search features that elevate it above Chrome. The App Edge, for example, 'allows you to set up feeds for anything from your Twitter or Gmail accounts to your favourite news sites, and get a little iPhone-style numeric reminder of the number of items awaiting your attention.' It does, however, lack Chrome's built-in Flash, PDF and audio players."

144 comments

  1. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It lacks features that would make it a better browser (like the awesome PDF reader), and adds social networking an an RSS reader, which I can just get by going to the appropriate websites on any browser. Great.

    1. Re:So... by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sounds more like "Google Chrome, only Worse, much worse" to me.

    2. Re:So... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Funny

      Does any body here remember when the Internet didn't suck the life out of you, and exhaust your will to see tomorrow?

      Thanks!

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    3. Re:So... by sortius_nod · · Score: 2

      How is not liking features that can be added via plug-ins and not liking that actual useful features are removed not seeing tomorrow?

      The whole article reads like a press release from RockMelt. I know I won't be downloading this, I'll stick with Chrome.

    4. Re:So... by Draek · · Score: 1

      It lacks the features I can easily get from a standalone app, and adds the features I cannot get without opening my browser in the first place.

      I'm not one that appreciates this whole "integration" BS, but I admit at least their take has a bit more logic than Chrome's.

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    5. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's nice looking like chrome but it's way too cluttered. That's why I prefer Chrome to everything else, its simplicity.

    6. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds more like "Google Chrome, only Worse, much worse" to me.

      In time you will realize that you want^Wneed to twitter to your gmail over facebook.

    7. Re:So... by couchslug · · Score: 1

      Sounds like "Slashvertisement" to me.

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    8. Re:So... by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      It lacks the one feature that really matters: open source. Rockmelt will go nowhere in terms of market share, but will still serve the useful purpose of helping Chromium devs avoid complacency. Maybe offer some useful ideas worth integrating. I say, it's all good.

      I'm having a little trouble understanding Rockmelt's business model though.

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    9. Re:So... by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Does any body here remember when the Internet didn't suck the life out of you, and exhaust your will to see tomorrow?

      Well, SlashDot was founded in 1997 and Fark in 1999, so... no.

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    10. Re:So... by TheCouchPotatoFamine · · Score: 1

      check my UID. that sounds very familiar. Perhaps we need help... (article to the left, support group line up to the right...:)

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    11. Re:So... by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      I'd agree and add if you wanted "Chrome only better" I'd go with Comodo Dragon which actually does offer better features IMHO, like better domain validation, the option to use the Comodo secure DNS if you wish, and no phoning home like Chrome.

      I'm currently typing this on a 1.8Ghz Sempron I use as a nettop and it is fast, pages load quick, easy to use, its pretty nice actually. ABP and Forecastfox for Chrome work fine on it, current build is Chromium 10, so it isn't out of date nor is it bleeding edge beta.

      Besides isn't Flock "Chrome only full of social crap" already? do we really need two Chrome full of social crap builds?

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    12. Re:So... by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Informative

      Oh Lord yes, sadly the little childrens here now probably don't remember those days...sigh. Remember when most webpages were just text, with maybe a JPG or GIF?

      Before the days of Geocities with purple pages with snot green text, or the wonderful dose of the clap that was Comet Cursors, which would make a Bart Simpson start jabbering where your mouse was or the REALLY evil fucker, the dreaded "Pocketwatch from hell" that would slam the living shit out of your nice OC'd Celeron 300A and make the entire machine drag like a 386 running Win95, thanks to its wonderful "snotball physics" that would cause the damned thing to swing and sway like a damned ball and cup game when you tried to move?

      Ah those were the days, no tweeting twating facebook farting narcissistic bullshit, just text and email, and that was it. No 24/7/365 mobile twiddle twaddle, no smart this or pad that, you just walked away from your desktop and you were actually away from everything!

      Life was so simple back then, no fb updating, no MMOs, no craziness like paying real money for virtual crap, just simple and easy. Sure we would have killed for something better than out shotgunned modems, and you sure as hell didn't download anything better than a 64k MP3, hell you didn't even have space for it if you did! But life was simpler then, just text and BBS, your handy notebook with IP addresses, and no endless piles of noobs running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Now get off my lawn!

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    13. Re:So... by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

      I stil have a long haul wager that updating and twiddle will go up in fireworks when The Event happens, in whichever form it comes first. What strikes me as funny is how the media "as portrayed on FA's on Slashdot & Fark" doesn't seem to get it, not all of it. I always screw up this metaphor, but call it classic Boiled Frog/Lobster. Does no one see:

      - "move to the cloud and go mobile!" vs "Let's reduce mobile bandwidth and have AT&T finally fess up to years of network neglect"
      - "Facebook using your real names" vs "Geotagging even when you think you're being understated about your whereabouts"
      - "National Trusted ID's in Cyberspace" vs "Felony Misclicks for streaming as well as copying"
      - That glorious mix of chaos when we can't figure out if Govs & Corps are being Stupid or Evil?

      Call it the Kent State 2.0. When The Event (Events Plural?) finally land, maybe we'll get something like multiplexed triple encrypted ultra-proxies or something and we'll be at Web 3.0. Bet Short on Facebook - just at the right time so that one last spike doesn't get you first.

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    14. Re:So... by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 2

      I wonder why most of the web browsers are heading down the UI simplicity route (which people seem to like), while websites still look as horribly complicated as the one in the article's screenshot. It doesn't matter how cluttered the browser is if you have to have a headache pill out after viewing one of these sites.

    15. Re:So... by Count+Fenring · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Flock is (was, at this point) built on Firefox, but it's the same principle. And no, no-one needs this crap. Anyone who wants social stuff built into their browser can and will do it with an add-on. Anyone who doesn't will ditch a browser for having it.

    16. Re:So... by TouchAndGo · · Score: 1

      Have Fark open in the other tab so I'm getting a kick, etc.

    17. Re:So... by bipbop · · Score: 1

      You weren't online before 1997? What are you doing on /.?

    18. Re:So... by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 3, Funny

      Of course I was online before 1997. I just try not to remember it!

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    19. Re:So... by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      Chrome with social polution.
      Perhaps it's just me, but I don't really want to watch the faces of my friends lined along both sides of the browser whenever I'm surfing for porn^wnews.

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    20. Re:So... by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Isn't this sadly the directly that Firefox 5.0 is going? All social and dedicated web-app interfaces and crap? I sure hope all the popular browsers don't go the way of the "real keyboard without a bunch of stupid fucking dedicated 'media keys'".

    21. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh Lord yes, sadly the little childrens here now probably don't remember those day

      I think your denial at envy is coming on a bit too strong there. It's dumb to take a condecending tone once you've reached a certain age. Yes, we might have been watching some cool stuff back in the day. But those little childrens, their brains work. Ours are suffering from a slowly growing pile of damaged functionality.

    22. Re:So... by Cigaes · · Score: 1

      I concur. When I read the title of this article, I thought that maybe it was a fork of Chromium that dropped the idiotic policy "we know better than the user what he wants" and restored such useful functions as find-links-as-you-type, middle-click URL paste, open frame in new tab, GUI style customization and so on.

      1: I know, there is an extension; but it works badly.

    23. Re:So... by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      Thats what I don't get about chrome, I mean whats the point? Processing speeds have long, long since ceased being the chokepoint for web page loading and performance. The effects of a faster browser are mostly unnoticeable these days where an average PC can run 3D FPS games without blinking, chrome is trying to solve a problem that disappeared in the late 90s. Firefox hits the sweet spot IMHO.

    24. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chrome with social polution.

      Yeah, who needs social pollution when we have self-pollution.

    25. Re:So... by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      I guess you've never tried to edit pictures or create complex documents using an HTML5 site. Browser speed isn't anywhere near where it needs to be for stuff like that.

    26. Re:So... by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      I really wish that Chrome, Firefox, and Opera would get together and agree on a way to put social stuff into the browser that is agnostic and federated. If they got the identity part into HTML5, Facebook and other walled gardens would open or die a relatively quick death. See my sig for some ignorant thing I wrote about this a year ago.

    27. Re:So... by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      Will the miniscule differences relative to a standard modern processor make a difference? Also, why would I do that, I've all the neccessary dedicated applications on my PC already. I wouldn't try to surf the web via photoshop nor edit photos in firefox.

    28. Re:So... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      Somewhere in your comment is an insight, that I think I share.

      Except the market part. Facebook will do well - just as the private companies running prisons do, today.

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    29. Re:So... by uniquename72 · · Score: 1

      Millions of Picnik users lead me to the shocking conclusion that not everyone is just like you.

    30. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speak for yourself junior, I was connected wireless 24/7 via RTTY and a TI99/4A running off a 12v car battery in the early 80's (so early it was almost the 70's).

    31. Re:So... by teslar · · Score: 1

      and you sure as hell didn't download anything better than a 64k MP3

      I remember my first 128 kb/s mp3, complete with all the skips and bleeps from having been encoded on an underpowered machine. I remember how long it took to download. These days, it takes half as long to download a 4GB movie than it took to get those 4 puny MB back then. I still find that amazing.

    32. Re:So... by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Oh I remember those too! Remember MP3PRO? Oh how I looked upon MP3PRO with wonder! Hey, now we can actually have a WHOLE ALBUM at 64k and it will mostly be playable! Skipping will be at a minimum! Of course at that time I was "smoking Mr Badass" thanks to a Pentium 100MHz OC'd to nearly 175, a Voodoo and soundblaster letting me seriously ROCK at DOOM, and a serial flightstick (F15 copy IIRC) that was the bomb on Mechwarrior 2.

      Now I have something like 60Gb of albums on MP3 thanks to encoding every album I found worth listening to at the pawn shop across the street from the last shop I worked (good thing too, as I have NO IDEA what happened to all my CDs after 3 moves in 3 years. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if one of the movers or storage companies helped themselves) and I think my smallest game install is something like 2Gb.

      I still find it amazing that I went from a 600Mb HDD (which I thought while running Win3.x "I'll never fill this up!") to dual 500Gb (and needing to upgrade to Tb drives as I'm running out of space) and my HD4850 that I got give to me by my GF cost less than $100 yet has more power than my first four PCs COMBINED, or that my PC would probably be considered just middle of the road for a gamer PC yet has FOUR 2.8Ghz CPUs, 8Gb of RAM (more than my first 6 HDDs put together) and a 1600x900 LCD compared to my first "PC" which was a VIC 20 at...what was it, something like 260x180? And the whole thing costs less than $800? Hell you couldn't even buy a HDD for the VIC for that!

      We really need a "appreciate all the killer tech" day, because frankly most kids have NO idea how far we've come in so fast! Hell my oldest waxes nostalgic about his first PC, which was a 600MHz P3 with Win98SE and a Geforce 4! Hell my boys "hand me down" PCs are Pentium Duals, and even my mother has a 3Ghz Celeron just for playing match 3 games. Hell the amount of power we take for granted today is truly staggering, with companies all the time handing me late model P4s that they simply don't want anymore because they think they are "too slow".

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  2. Chrome is the new Benchmark. by pro151 · · Score: 1

    Everyone wants to be as good as or better than Chrome. Way to go Google!

    1. Re:Chrome is the new Benchmark. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I'll go out and make a better browser myself. From reading this article it sounds pretty easy; start with someone else's work, then add needless trivial bloat onto it which users can just go out and get themselves if they so choose. Viola, my work is better than Google's!

    2. Re:Chrome is the new Benchmark. by HelioWalton · · Score: 1

      What does a large stringed instrument have to do with it?

    3. Re:Chrome is the new Benchmark. by pspahn · · Score: 1

      It's playing quietly. Just for you. Your pun was very depressing.

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    4. Re:Chrome is the new Benchmark. by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 1

      Your pun was very depressing.

      It is not a pun. It is a spelling mistake. A viola is an instrument, while voilà is the exclamation.

    5. Re:Chrome is the new Benchmark. by glwtta · · Score: 1

      What does a large stringed instrument have to do with it?

      Don't be ridiculous - obviously the OP was talking about a shipwrecked woman from Messaline, cross-dressing as a man to seduce the Duke Orsino!

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    6. Re:Chrome is the new Benchmark. by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      As good or better than chrome's leveraged marketing platform you mean.

    7. Re:Chrome is the new Benchmark. by Trongy · · Score: 2
  3. Big Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does RockMelt deal with the whole Chrome botnet "feature"? Is it removed?

    1. Re:Big Question by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The whole topic sounds as if it could be translated: "Just like date rape, only better"

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    2. Re:Big Question by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 0

      Prom rape better or consensual sex better?

    3. Re:Big Question by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      The Google/Facebook Panopticon "business" model of turning "customers" into inventory REALLY is suited to the date-rape metaphor.

      "I thought we were going to have a wonderful evening. Everything started out so nice, and he paid for everything...".

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    4. Re:Big Question by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      Well, aside from no one is being forced into doing anything, rape is a totally applicable term here.

  4. Flock by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

    Social media integration was such a great idea, and worked so well for Flock, I don't see why these guys could possibly fail.

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    1. Re:Flock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Facebook and Twitter. Yeah, that's just what I want and need embedded within my web browser. It's a good thing I'm a 12-year-old girl.

    2. Re:Flock by blair1q · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what you are, but if you think that Facebook and Twitter is all 12-year-old girls, I'm sure you're not very clueful.

    3. Re:Flock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, those things are also for gay 17 yr old emo boys and the 73 yr old pedophiles who adore 17 yr old emo boys (gay or not). Also it's for fat and ugly 24 yr old supermarket check-out chicks so they can go batshit crazy at each other about celebs. And it's for 51 yr old wives to go batshit crazy with each other about celebs. The 12 yr old girls don't have FB and twitter all to themselves!

      The great thing about that is it means men can use the real Internet without being bothered by the fags and fuckwits who are attracted to FB and twitter like flys to shit.

    4. Re:Flock by kvvbassboy · · Score: 1

      Wow.. the rage. Did you get stood up one of those types you mentioned?

    5. Re:Flock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the Feds. FaceBook is their wetdream come true. Instead of having to come up with new ways to spy on their own people, their own people came up with a way to spy on themselves!

    6. Re:Flock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wow.. the rage. Did you get stood up one of those types you mentioned?

      All of them, actually. It was quite a night I had planned.

    7. Re:Flock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nah, he's just tired of all the unnecessary props and extra freebies society gives those cross sections nowadays...the helpless gay teenager and the 24yo supermarket checkout chick are played out. we should stop society from pandering to their needs.

  5. Out with the useless, in with the stupid! by Count+Fenring · · Score: 1

    Flock is dead.... short live the Rockmelt!

  6. Flock? by wasabioss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They haven't learned the lesson from Flock, have they?

    I just want a goddamn browser, without any of the facebook twitter buttons and toolbars and shit. When I want to update my facebook status, I will get there.

    1. Re:Flock? by rsborg · · Score: 1

      They haven't learned the lesson from Flock, have they?

      I just want a goddamn browser, without any of the facebook twitter buttons and toolbars and shit. When I want to update my facebook status, I will get there.

      Bbbbut they have funding from Andreesen Horowitz! They make facebook more ... face-y. Oh, I give up. This will end poorly, just like Flock. People want the browser-chrome and mechanics of the web to fade out, and let the web content shine.... see how popular low-profile browsing experiences like Chrome and Safari on iPad are.

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    2. Re:Flock? by halfey · · Score: 0

      I have nothing against social networking integrated right into a browser. It's up to you whether it's a bad idea or not. If it doesn't feel right to you then you also have to know it doesn't necessarily appear wrong to everybody. It's not about being busy or lazy, it's about convenience. However if it's me, if I want to do those social networking at their respective site, I'll just get the right browser. However if I want to do it without leaving the page I'm currently on, I'll just get the right plugin, which means social networking integration in a browser is not my cup of tea. Think of it like this, people might used to hate integrated download manager in a browser and say "if I want to download I'll just open my download manager software" but today it's a welcomed feature.

    3. Re:Flock? by MrEricSir · · Score: 1

      But then why do you need a separate browser for that? Why can't you just have an extension that ads a Twitter sidebar or whatever?

      Hell, there's even a Firefox extension that lets you browse SQLite files, I don't see why they couldn't have a social media aggregation extension.

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    4. Re:Flock? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They haven't learned the lesson from Flock, have they?

      I just want a goddamn browser, without any of the facebook twitter buttons and toolbars and shit. When I want to update my facebook status, I will kill myself.

      FTFY.

    5. Re:Flock? by dragonhunter21 · · Score: 1

      I just want a goddamn browser, without any of the facebook twitter buttons and toolbars and shit. When I want to update my facebook status, I will get there.

      Wait, wasn't that sort of the point of Chrome in the first place? No-frills, fast, secure browsing?

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    6. Re:Flock? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How will they track you then ?
      Where will their revenues come from ??
      What about the children !!!

    7. Re:Flock? by RobbieThe1st · · Score: 1

      You've answered your own questiom there: Opening SQLite files from a nice cross-platform interface? Way useful! Aggregating social media? Why bother.
      Oh, I'm sure some kid's made some extension to do just that, but it's not popular because it's not exactly useful. And possibly because all the social-media-addicted-idiots have already switched to Chrome.

  7. ...the social browser? by Papeh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm legitimately curious, are there people out there that are so awfully busy that they need a browser to check the news and Facebook for them? Did it suddenly become old-fashioned to actually type "cnn.com" in the address bar? I'm all for social networking and most everything that's happened in this field for the past few years. But at what point is it taken too far?

    1. Re:...the social browser? by moonbender · · Score: 1

      Eh. Ever heard of Google Reader? It's pretty popular. I use a client-side RSS reader myself, but it's integrated into Firefox as an addon. I like having the RSS reader in-browser, it integrates nicely into the normal "workflow" within the browser UI, and you get stuff like displaying inline YouTube videos for free. It's not about saving time, it's just more convenient to have a software that pull new items, hides stuff you've already seen and presents content from a range of sites in a common format.

      That said, I can't say the browser from TFA has me convinced. The UI looks kind of cluttered. But then again, I don't really care about the social networking/sharing/chat stuff they seem to focus on. Their approach to search (read TFA for details) does look intriguing, but I'm not sure how well it works in practice.

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    2. Re:...the social browser? by igi-111 · · Score: 1

      Beeing faster, thats the whole point, the main feature is that RSS feeds are clearly easier to use than F5ing the same webpage over and over again.

    3. Re:...the social browser? by madskyllz · · Score: 1

      I'll admit it; I like Internet Explorer and use it almost exclusively (along with FF and Chrome for web development purposes). However, I've been using RockMelt since the early betas. The thing that got me to even look at it was the fact it has ties to former big wigs from Netscape.

      Is it evil? I'm sure. It's hooked fairly tight into FaceBook. Don't care about the social networking aspect? Use Chrome.

      I was sold when I bookmarked a site at work, went home, fired up a browser and my bookmarks were synced. Same with my RSS feeds.

      I actually spend a lot less time aimlessly surfing the same 7 sites over and over because I know in .07 seconds that there are no new stories on any of them. It keeps me off facebook.com while still letting me see what my friends/family are up to. I don't have to check Slashdot every 4.7 minutes looking for the next big thing.

    4. Re:...the social browser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both Chrome and Firefox4 offers bookmarks sync between computers. Opera probably does offer it too. It has available for ages as Firefox addon too (Foxmarks, or something like that). Is this really the killer feature that sold you RockMelt?

      Any browser, including IE you seems to like, is able to keep up with a RSS feed. I'd prefer Google Reader myself.

      You seems to be a shill for RockMelt.

    5. Re:...the social browser? by BenoitRen · · Score: 1

      Did it suddenly become old-fashioned to actually type "cnn.com" in the address bar?

      It has been old-fashioned for years. People type what they want to go to in Google and click one of the first results.

  8. This is how marketing works by synthesizerpatel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A company will send out press releases to media outlets (magazines, newspapers, tv shows / stations, bloggers) to inform them of new products or offerings.

    In some cases, marketing people will directly contact the magazine or newspaper by calling up and pitching a story based on their product or offering.

    Depending on the media outlet, thinly veiled advertising is achieved by the marketing person making a good impression on the media outlet, or by offering a free unit, and in some cases gifts. In some seedier situations money is exchanged so that the media outlet will portray the product in a favorable light, so that the reader's distrust of direct advertising can be circumvented through the illusion of new or useful information.

    And while I certainly don't mean to suggest that RockMelt paid off PC Pro for this story, more-so, I'd posit that PC Pro is just happy to get the hits.

    1. Re:This is how marketing works by sirlatrom · · Score: 1

      You might as well have written: "I think PC Pro paid Slashdot to bring this otherwise useless story so they could get some advertising money."

    2. Re:This is how marketing works by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sadly enough, the payoff doesn't even have to be as exciting as that. Journalism, especially for second-string rags or random stuff blogs and special interest publications, suffers from a more or less continual deadline crunch. In addition to the usual pressure of getting the thing together in time for the next print run, you have the fact that they are trying to make up for their shrinking margins by extracting more words words fewer people.

      Under those circumstances, a vaguely neutral sounding press release(already conveniently typed up and more or less grammatically accurate!), that can just be massaged a touch and turned in is a blessing. Gotta churn out that content, make the deadline, look productive. Since the number of journalists has been slowly ebbing over time, and the number of PR flacks increasing, it only stands to reason that a greater percentage of "news" copy will be written by the latter.

      Of course, for stuff that actually matters, or has a big money ad campaign behind it, or someone who controls the precious "access", you can see more overt corruption; but for petty shit deadline pressure is actually a depressingly large part of it.

    3. Re:This is how marketing works by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      They could at least bring us something we haven't seen before.

    4. Re:This is how marketing works by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

      (With a salute to Styx)

      This could be the longest night, in copyright history
      And as you blog, blog, you might as well just cross it off the list of possibilities;
      I'm as connected as the next man, I won't turn and run from a story;
      And I could read a million years, if I could just blog through this night.

      I could be a web novelist, tell secrets never heard,
      pour my soul into each and every sentence, but I still can't find the words;
      'Till I know that you're out there, and you can relate to it all,
      And I could bear the cold copyright winter, if I make my deadline call.

      Don't you know that there's no place on this earth,
      where you can escape the pain of a facebook post;
      It's useless to spend the time it takes you to try.
      But can't you see that I'm here, and I'm tweeting just the same...

      I could be a movie star, the king of Hollywood,
      Make them cry, Grammatically Pretending, to keep the illusion alive;
      And I'll humbly thank my director, and the MPAA involved from the start,
      And I could blow them all away, if I could only find a part;

      If I just get through the copyright night.

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    5. Re:This is how marketing works by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      Still in this product-saturated world it won't do them much good unless the review says "this is f*cking awesome!!!" And that kind of enthusiasm can't be bought.

      But a paid review may convince investors to put in some more, so... why not.

  9. Rockmelt = Feces by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand the need to have my whereabouts, my surfing history, my current status posted to all the social media sites. If you see the other browsers are attempting to make surfing "anonymous", it seems Mr. Andreesen is behind the times here, and should have sobered up before actually producing this product.

  10. Not impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A screencap FTFA shows that RockMelt certainly has more icons (everywhere) than Chrome. This degradation of aesthetics does not make me want to change my default from Chromium (on a Windows box), as a browser's aesthetics go a long way in connecting me to the pages with which I am interacting.

  11. Too many browsers. by Seor+Jojoba · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would be happier to learn that I had less choices in browsers. But that is the developer bias. Still, it seems to me that you really have to raise the bar if you want to be taken seriously, not just be Chrome+1. And I'm resistant to features which are tied in to services offered by certain companies (Facebook, Twitter) instead of just standardized services (RSS, FTP).

    Larger question... would we not be better served if we started treating the browser more like a commodity item? Basic, standard features in an unglamorous browser, and... that's it. And then with a nice stable development platform that doesn't change around every 2 weeks, the real interesting features can start arriving at the web application layer. Standardize the browsers so we can forget about their individual features.

    1. Re:Too many browsers. by StripedCow · · Score: 1

      This is exactly why Google NaCl (Native Client) is such a good idea. We could have one single binary format. Every webdeveloper could choose his own rendering engine, and send it along with his/her HTML. With proper caching (and sharing) of course. In fact, you could view a rendering engine as a "shared library" that you reference from your HTML code. The program that lets this work all together (e.g. NaCl) is then the commodity item you are talking about.

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    2. Re:Too many browsers. by jalefkowit · · Score: 1

      I would be happier to learn that I had less choices in browsers.

      Yeah, remember how nice life was for web developers when everybody just used IE? Oh, wait.

    3. Re:Too many browsers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd argue it's become worse with the advent of more and more browsers. To write one CSS rule that works cross-platform anymore you need to write
        -super-awsome-browser-1: 23px;
        -webkit-super-awesome-setting: 23px;
        -moz-super-awesome-setting: 23px;
        IE-Filter('awesome-setting'): 0, 23px;
        4 ore more lines for one damn rule, and that's just CSS. Include all of the javascript hacks, different '.png' support for browsers, and all of the other random hacks to get things working, it becomes an absolute mess. If we had two browsers, or just two different rendering engines to choose from web dev would be brilliantly easy.

    4. Re:Too many browsers. by destroyer661 · · Score: 1

      I've been quitely praying that this becomes the next "hot thing", and by "hot thing" I mean Google turns to dictating that the web must be run on this type of set up. I'd argue that the browser wars currently taking place are one of the reasons our web is still so cryptic and archaic. We sit around as web dev's and hack together gimped shadows of what we could do if we all had a common standard to hit, and a common platform to write for. I honestly feel like I'm working for 4-5 different architectures when I'm developing a website with the amount of different hacks and such I have to put forth to display a site correctly across the net.

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    5. Re:Too many browsers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't just be quiet about it, then. Shout it from the rooftops and get involved! Unless you want to be stuck in the world of "HTML5" (for whatever bag of barely-related crap the term happens to mean on a given day), then there needs to be an equal amount of enthusiasm for NaCl.

  12. lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that is so lame.

  13. News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not that I am a big fan of either Rockmelt or Flock but it's been available for several months now - why is this "new" news now?

  14. Better than expected by igi-111 · · Score: 1

    I just tested Rockmelt for a week or two and besides the fact that there is not Linux version yet, I love it. Just don't judge it on the "Social Browser" thing, the best feature is clearly the embed RSS reader it has which is absolutely perfect when you wanna check tons of news websites. besides, the UI design is really well made(and the embed google search makes it even smoother) and most of all, it's compatible with all chrome/chromium extensions. In my opinion its more chromium++ than a totally new browser, but since chromium is great, it's even better. Well that just what i think: go try it shashdot, it's worth it.

    1. Re:Better than expected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice shill, 2000000+.

    2. Re:Better than expected by True+Vox · · Score: 1

      OK, I'll bite -

      I'm not a shill for Rockmelt (I have no connection to them). There is one reason, and one reason only why I use it & intend to stick with it - the integrated feed reader. Is there some extension that duplicates that functionallity on stock Chrome? If so, I'm game to go back (don't really care about the Facebook tie-in stuff). But I looked around for a while and have not yet located it. Yes, there are feed readers, but none quite like this one - at least as far as I can locate.

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    3. Re:Better than expected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chrome doesn't do persistent sidebars very well, so no, there's no Rockmelt-ish RSS feeder that just hangs around on the side of your window. SlickRSS is an extension that adds an in-browser RSS reader that doesn't hop to an external website, though. I've been using it for a while and the author is improving it fairly consistently. If Google ever gets around to improving the support for extensions that actually *extend* Chrome's interface, you'll probably see a clone pop up.

      You can hide the two sidebars in Rockmelt, which is welcome to get rid of the Facebook feed. BUT you can't sign out of Facebook without also signing out of the entire browser, which is a huge fail. It also throws up "HEY PIMP ME OUT TO YOUR FRIENDS AND PUT ME ON YOUR PHONE" noise that you can't get rid of in the form of a button in the upper right of the screen and a widget on the home page. These annoyances are why I'm going to be uninstalling it soon and waiting until someone clones the two salient points of the thing, the sidebar newsreader and search preview.

    4. Re:Better than expected by True+Vox · · Score: 1

      Ah well, thanks for responding anyway. :)

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  15. Others have surely pointed this out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It bears repeating.

    but adds a host of social networking, news feed and search features that make it a pile of dog crap compared to Google's Chrome

    Fixed that for you. There's a reason I switched to Firebird from IE and old school Mozilla back in the day. It was sleek; it was fast; it didn't have a bunch of crap bloat thrown into it like IE and Mozilla.

    There's a reason I switched to Chrome from Firefox. Chrome is sleek; it's fast; it doesn't have a bunch of crap bloat thrown into it like Firefox.

    There's a reason I'll switch from Chrome to the next usable browser; it'll be sleek; fast; and not have the bunch of crap bloat that Google will eventually throw into Chrome, because all browser producers are stupid and sooner or later think shiny bullshit is more important than speed and stability.

  16. Plugin by Maxx169 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't the features described be more suited to a Chrome plugin (would that be feasible?) rather than a completely new browser?

    1. Re:Plugin by igi-111 · · Score: 1

      well it's a little more than a RSS reader and a Share button, i guess it would be laggy as hell if made by a chrome extension. And after all It can be considered itself as an extension since it's compatible with all other chrome extensions(the only downside is the lack of internal flash and pdf reader, witch is normal since the base is chromium, not chrome).

    2. Re:Plugin by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't the features described be more suited to a Chrome plugin (would that be feasible?) rather than a completely new browser?

      You sound like an engineer.

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    3. Re:Plugin by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 2

      It wouldn't be laggy, Chrome JS is surprisingly fast. And anything that can't be done in JS can be done through an NPAPI plugin, though I looked into writing one once and it was a bit more complicated than I hoped even to make a "Hello World!" type plugin.

    4. Re:Plugin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NO! Chrome extensions (e.g. AdBlock, Google Voice) are limited to HTML/XML/CSS/JavaScript and reload each time a targeted page does, and the page will already load before the extensions are allowed to run. They are a huge security risk. So are Netscape Plugins, which is what Chrome uses. (e.g. PDF, Flash, Silverlight)

      That said, Rockmelt is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of in my life.

      You can just store a customized HTML with iFrames in it, as a local file in your browser directory and configure your browser preferences to load it either as the home/start-page or the new-tab-page! (a.k.a. Chrome App)

      Chrome lets you have these AND keep XSS and 3rd Part Cookies disabled on webpages. :-)

      You can even have chrome put a "RockMelt" icon on the desktop.

      Does Rockmelt support NaCl and HTML5 storage?

  17. I signed up for their beta preview and ... by cfriedt · · Score: 1

    unfortunately, their browser did not work on Linux :(

  18. Durr hurr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To the Asperger's commenter mobile!

  19. slashdot covered its downfall, back in 2010 by rickzor · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/11/12/226250/RockMelt-mdash-Right-Browser-Wrong-Platform

    "RockMelt browser is a labor-saver for heavy users of the desktop social Web, but it doesn't fully deliver on the startup's promise to build a browser 'designed around you and how you use the Web.' That's because the social Web is less and less about the PC desktop, and more about mobile platforms and appliances like smartphones, tablets, and Internet-connected TVs."

  20. Google Chrome with a bunch of shit you don't need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FTFY

  21. Lacking support for flash, PDF and audio... by santiagodraco · · Score: 1

    It does, however, lack Chrome's built-in Flash, PDF and audio players."

    "also, it lacks support for html but we are working on it..."

    1. Re:Lacking support for flash, PDF and audio... by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      If they've managed to break the <audio> tag then it already does lack support for HTML.

  22. extensions? by aahpandasrun · · Score: 0

    Can't this just be accomplished with extensions? Does it really need to be a custom browser?

    1. Re:extensions? by igi-111 · · Score: 1

      too bad there is currently no extension that does this. Besides, how do you make money out of a browser extension?

  23. Is there a problem, Agent? by furbearntrout · · Score: 0

    Welcome to the internet, where the men are men, the women are men, too; and the twelve year old girls are FBI agents.

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    Crap. What did the new CSS do with the "Post anonymously" option??
  24. It is proprietary software. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Move along. There's nothing to see here. Closed source crap built on top of open source is useless to me.

  25. Meh Winblows Only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've made it a point to stop using programs designed to only run on Winblows unless there is no other viable alternative. Chrome is a viable alternative.

  26. Oh ninja, that's epic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like hipster malware adware garbage for tweens.

    1. Re:Oh ninja, that's epic! by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "This sounds like hipster malware adware garbage for tweens."

      You are right, and with that formula it should succeed brilliantly!

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  27. New? by glwtta · · Score: 2

    Didn't this thing come out months ago? As I recall, it was a pile of ass and proprietary nonsense.

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    This advertisement has been brought to you by Slashdot.

  29. I'm still amazed that by Posting=!Working · · Score: 1

    Another version of Chrome that forces a choice between having bookmarks visible all the time or having them several mouse clicks away in a window/tab/panel that needs to be closed. It's like having a smart phone that has a scrollable contact list as your homescreen and a rotary dial; one you don't want open all the time and the other is clunky.

    Every program has drop down menus for selecting from lists of items because they work better than everything else that's been tried. Bookmarks are probably the best use cases for a drop down menu, you just want to make a selection and have the menu go away.

    Also, how did non-scrollable tabs make it through the first alpha version? After 10 tabs are smashed together, you can't really tell which is which and after about 20, they're just blank nubs. How is that useful?

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    This sentence no verb.
    1. Re:I'm still amazed that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      about the scrollable tabs

      i love it that they aren't there. it makes it easier in my opinion, i usually remember the position of the page, not the full name or whatever i could see when scrolled, its way faster to just go to its position, that is, unless its scrollable and happens to be somewhere else then where i left it, in the line

    2. Re:I'm still amazed that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. I wouldn't want this bloated variant of Chrome with all the social crap built in why? But bookmark use and management in Chrome has been one of its worst shit stains.

  30. Better? Elevated Above? by __aazsst3756 · · Score: 1

    So they took out the good parts of a browser, and tacked on a bunch of bits I don't need, and call it better? I don't think so.

  31. Meh by MikeyTheK · · Score: 1

    I started messing around with RockMelt six months ago after receiving an invite. It's ok, but I have yet to find a real compelling reason to use it over Chrome, especially since, as the article mentions, it only sort-of supports Chrome extensions, which means I can only sort-of do things that I rely on Chrome for.

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  32. economic colapse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you hadn't noticed the collapse of the world economy came at the same time as the rise of farce-book and social media. Trillions of man-hours wasted on no productive activity for things no one will ever see. Yes, I am saying that the crack that is farce-book is the cause of the economic collapse and we will not recover until there is a prohibition on social medial. Then people will go to internet speak-easies and spend large amounts of money to get their social media fix.. Only when social media is illegal, underground and expensive will the economy recover.. natch.

  33. RockMeh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have been testing it out for the past 3-4 days. Kind of feeling like it's completely pointless. The side bars really seem distracting no matter WHAT I'm doing, even if it is social networking-related. It's basically a child's version of chrome, if children had a need for social networking tools.

    I think you're better off just getting chrome and customizing it through plug-ins that way if you want something less intrusive. This thing was just designed to make your life more difficult to customize to fit to your needs.

  34. What the fuck does "rock me it" mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can somebody please tell me what the fuck the "rock me it" means, and why the fuck it'd be used as the name of a web browser?

    1. Re:What the fuck does "rock me it" mean? by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      It means you need a font that distinguishes capital I from lowercase l. Those are different letters.

  35. print preview by cephyn · · Score: 1

    yeah but does it do print preview?

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  36. I prefer SRware Iron. Sometimes less is more. by guidryp · · Score: 1

    The only Chrome build on my system is Iron:
    https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/SRWare_Iron

    Like Chrome but without the call home/tracking info.

    1. Re:I prefer SRware Iron. Sometimes less is more. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only Chrome build on my system is Iron:
      https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/SRWare_Iron

      Like Chrome but without the call home/tracking info.

      This. Been rocking SRWare Iron on Mac OS and Windows VM's for some time.

    2. Re:I prefer SRware Iron. Sometimes less is more. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  37. FF_ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just raise an eyebrow and wonder when something this simple will become an addon for firefox :P

  38. Too bad SRWare Iron is a scam by keitosama · · Score: 1

    It's the same browser as Chromium with a few options being hardcoded instead of being user-selectable. http://chromium.hybridsource.org/the-iron-scam

    1. Re:Too bad SRWare Iron is a scam by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      I thought the whole point wasn't to get something better than Chromium, only to not get the extra stuff in Chrome (Google Update, anyone?)

      Also, since when are open-source forks a scam? Maybe the source code isn't as important as the installation and packaging.

    2. Re:Too bad SRWare Iron is a scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um...what? The way I read that, it appears that Iron is doing pretty much what it says it is.

      Calling it a scam would be a huge stretch.

  39. ActiveDesktop and PointCast All Over Again? by stokemaster · · Score: 1

    I am excited again about the time when ActiveDesktop and PointCast channels were announced!

  40. Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It does, however, lack Chrome's built-in Flash, PDF and audio players.

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

  41. ...but adds a host of social networking... by RichiH · · Score: 1

    > but adds a host of social networking

    Yep, better.

    In related news, Konqueror has been able to embedd PDF an incredible PDF viewer, has been running flash in a separate process, has had customizable web shortcuts, and the only decent password and cookie management for almost a decade, now. Oh, and their HTML engine is what Webkit came from.

    tl;dr: Try Konqueror today.

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  43. blackbird by epyT-R · · Score: 1

    apparently racist browsers are ok too

    www.blackbirdhome.com

  44. IE with 10,000 toolbars... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, they are simply converting Google's browser into something resembling the average IE installation.

  45. Meh ... by lennier1 · · Score: 2

    There already is a good browser into which they've crammed a ton of bling and other unimportant crap that should have been banished into optional add-ons. It's called Firefox!

  46. It will go the way of the Flock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's what became of the last Chromium-based "social browser":

    Support for Flock browsers will be discontinued as of April 26th, 2011. We would like to thank our loyal users around the world for their support, and we encourage the Flock community to migrate in the coming weeks to one of the recommended web browsers listed below.

  47. Fantastic idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take one of the leanest fastest browsers and bloat it to hell! Surefire trail to success.

  48. "One single binary format"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, for the x86 chips only! Or are you forgetting about the vast number of browsers on cell phones, tablets, etc. that are running on an ARM processor?

    1. Re:"One single binary format"? by StripedCow · · Score: 1

      This is just a minor obstacle.
      Think "virtual machines" or "binary code recompilation" or "intermediate languages" or "LLVM".

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  49. yeah, the world... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, the world totally needs yet another web browser.

    Tell you what, you release a browser that frees developers from the html/js/css hell that's been foisted on them and THEN get back to us.

  50. Horray. by Yaos · · Score: 1

    I'm sick and tired of having to visit crappy websites to be annoyed by something, I'm glad somebody made a browser that brings the annoyances straight to you without needed to do anything.

  51. Garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lean browser bloated with bloatware.....