And that would be a limb that would break. In the MP3 player market iPod was and is way out in the lead. People love the system.
Only in countries where Apple markets heavily, so clearly it's not the 'quality' of the system per se.
How to completely mis-represent the market share of MP3 players. Other MP3 player manufacturers would love to have native syncing with iTunes.
I wasn't talking about manufacturers, I was talking about users; I've yet to meet a single person who wants their non-iPod player to have iTunes support, and in fact I've only seen a handful of iPod owners that even *like* the iTunes support they already have.
Apple with it's effortless iTunes syncing system remains by far the most popular MP3 player system. Few people want drag n drop manual music file management.
Really? let's see Apple offer manual music management, and see how many remain with iTunes for more than a week. People don't switch merely for the huge cost of changing MP3 players *and* online stores along with it, but if they could I'm betting most iToy owners would drop iTunes in a heartbeat.
1) Connect media player to the computer 2) Drag & Drop music collection to the computer 3) Go on with your life.
Advantages include not having to think about making backups (you and I may find them obvious, but aunt Tilly doesn't), working in case of unexpected disk failure and not just planned reinstalls, and working like every other goddamned device on the face of planet Earth. But I guess those are inconsequential when faced against the prettiness and the shiny.
And I'd go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of people want to deal with iTunes even less than Explorer, being already used to the latter through... well, every other action on Windows, and of the few that still do so is merely because they believe dealing with it is less of a pain than switching to an iToy's competitor.
Though the fact that there's so little demand for other devices to be supported by iTunes is a testament to that fact, so maybe it's not so much going out on a limb.
Webkit was forked from KHTML and became it's own implementation, developed by Apple. Are you going to claim that all Linux distributions are the 'same'?
Would you claim Canonical open-sourced the Linux kernel, then?
The... what? have you even played a Prince of Persia game in your life? I've heard "easy", "linear" and more than a few that disliked the art style, but you're the first person I've ever seen calling PoP 08 "complex".
Besides, it wasn't the only game: the first Assassin's Creed game also had only a disk check on the retail version and relegated itself to whatever DRM, if any, was used on DD stores and Ubisoft still saw a sales increase with AC2 and AC:B. I'd love to see your excuse for *that* one.
No, only for spreading old and stale FUD against Google.
Meanwhile, the people voting you down won't address the fact that Google provides no indemnification.
Obviously, since you can't post and mod at the same time. Other people however have addressed the point many times in the past: you don't get patent indemnification *anywhere* else in the industry, and that's because large corporations don't remain large by being naive enough to think that judges are infallible and would never avail the insane demands of a patent troll.
From Ubisoft's perspective, anything more than zero is a win if they assume it will more than offset those who won't buy because of the DRM. Not a happy thought, but I suspect the numbers add up the right way for them.
They don't even have to assume, they already tried the opposite approach.
Kind of sad to think that we'd have gotten rid of the nasty trash that's DRM by now if only gamers had actually bought the game instead of pirating it shamelessly, but I guess it's one of the problems of being the rare adult in a teenager-oriented market.
Not really. You see, the Orwellian DRM was tried only *after* they tried putting games out there without any copy protection whatsoever, and saw sales figures tank as a result.
Sucks to be us, but we've nobody to blame for this one other than our fellow gamers.
Kinda hard to take you seriously, though, when you seem to confuse Ruby on Rails with the Ruby language it's built upon. Or just ignorantly generalize from one to the other.
Then again, as someone with formal training in Software Engineering, I hold a much lower opinion on Anonymous Cowards of all kinds than I do of people proficient in Ruby, Rails or Javascript;)
NO ONE blasted it as a 'me too' MMORPG when it came out. IN fact, they where pretty much blown away.
Wrong. Perhaps it was luck that you didn't meet any of them, or perhaps it's just your rose-tinted glasses, but there were no shortage back then just as there are now, whether you think they were justified or not.
I haven't read the proposed standard (mostly because, not being a sound engineer, I suspect I wouldn't understand a thing), but wouldn't the problem be solved by limiting not the maximum, but the average instead? us Classical fans get our cannon shots just as Tchaikovsky intended, while mainstream Rock music stops sounding like someone fucking your ear with an ice pick, it's win/win. And as a bonus, anyone wanting to have their music louder would have to have more quiet parts to compensate, meaning they'd be encouraged to utilize the full dynamic range instead of pushing everything to the maximum.
And yet the same World of Warcraft you defend was, and still is, blasted left and right as another "me too" MMO only with Warcraft characters and less demanding graphics.
As the GP said, being creative is a terribly subjective phrase. So much, that in the eyes of anyone who thought WoW was generic, your post comes across as a defense of Carmack's position rather than an attack on it.
That's like saying Java is superior to C because the latter being "portable assembly" was its whole purpose. Yes, it was so at the beginning, but the language and the frameworks built on top of them grew to encompass much more than that.
Not really. Funny thing about math is that, regardless of your political affiliations or position on same-sex marriages, 2 + 2 still equals 4. Science is pretty much the same, as you'd know if you had bothered to learn it.
I find cigarettes have a calming effect that allows me to put up with assholes like yourself.
Funny way of showing it, perhaps you need more nicotine?
While I'm being mostly facetious, I have noticed that some of my friends get very frustrated over things that don't bother me in the slightest. Stuck in traffic? Turn up the radio and have a cigarette. Calms me right down, versus some of my friends who don't smoke and sit and fume and yell at other drivers.
I know it's paraded around here to the point of being cliche, but... correlation does not imply causation. I'm the same as you yet I've never smoked in my life, so rather than your nicotine addiction being the cause I'd just bet on you having shitty friends to begin with.
People still drink alcohol despite the stench, the expense, the liver problems, hangovers, etc. I suppose the reason they drink is that they're addicted, too.
Well... yeah. Is there any reason why someone would believe otherwise?
The interesting thing is that, if you managed to keep it there long enough, it'd actually work.
Let's be honest: if I asked you which are the modern world's wonders, would you check out UNESCO or Wikipedia? and what would everyone else in your family do?
Ahh, yes, the good old "I have a right to my opinion, and don't you dare criticize my criticism!" cry that everyone holds until they realize their own working field has been driven to the ground by marketing departments paying more attention to the "faux connoisseurs" than to professionals in the area due to the former spending more money than the latter.
Unless, of course, you do work in Marketing and PR in which case you've never had it better.
Nope, nothing in any of the parents showing how Ogg support implies no MP3 support. The conversation went pretty much like this: "there hasn't been many people asking Ogg support" -> "because most stuff already does" -> "which sucks for the rest of us" -> "explain why" -> "no mp3 support" -> me WTFing.
Even ignoring "clones" that ultimately surpassed the original such as Unix, Linux, GCC and so, Miro is already a well-established project that's been going on for years (the project formerly known as "DemocracyPlayer" btw) and has got a sizeable userbase on PCs, this new marketing strategy is merely the result of one guy noticing that, if Miro makes for such a neat app on PCs it'd be pretty cool to have it on Android as well, and since it'd work roughly iTunes-ish they could market it as such rather than explain all its features one by one.
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Judging from your moderation at +5, Funny, I'm guessing I wasn't the only one who played Superman 64 here on Slashdot.
And that would be a limb that would break. In the MP3 player market iPod was and is way out in the lead. People love the system.
Only in countries where Apple markets heavily, so clearly it's not the 'quality' of the system per se.
How to completely mis-represent the market share of MP3 players. Other MP3 player manufacturers would love to have native syncing with iTunes.
I wasn't talking about manufacturers, I was talking about users; I've yet to meet a single person who wants their non-iPod player to have iTunes support, and in fact I've only seen a handful of iPod owners that even *like* the iTunes support they already have.
Apple with it's effortless iTunes syncing system remains by far the most popular MP3 player system. Few people want drag n drop manual music file management.
Really? let's see Apple offer manual music management, and see how many remain with iTunes for more than a week. People don't switch merely for the huge cost of changing MP3 players *and* online stores along with it, but if they could I'm betting most iToy owners would drop iTunes in a heartbeat.
And you don't understand what a "smartphone" is, particularly the part where they differ from regular phones (ie, true appliances).
Or alternately, with a non-iPod device:
1) Connect media player to the computer
2) Drag & Drop music collection to the computer
3) Go on with your life.
Advantages include not having to think about making backups (you and I may find them obvious, but aunt Tilly doesn't), working in case of unexpected disk failure and not just planned reinstalls, and working like every other goddamned device on the face of planet Earth. But I guess those are inconsequential when faced against the prettiness and the shiny.
And I'd go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of people want to deal with iTunes even less than Explorer, being already used to the latter through... well, every other action on Windows, and of the few that still do so is merely because they believe dealing with it is less of a pain than switching to an iToy's competitor.
Though the fact that there's so little demand for other devices to be supported by iTunes is a testament to that fact, so maybe it's not so much going out on a limb.
And other than showing your poor grasp of logic, what does that prove?
Webkit was forked from KHTML and became it's own implementation, developed by Apple. Are you going to claim that all Linux distributions are the 'same'?
Would you claim Canonical open-sourced the Linux kernel, then?
The... what? have you even played a Prince of Persia game in your life? I've heard "easy", "linear" and more than a few that disliked the art style, but you're the first person I've ever seen calling PoP 08 "complex".
Besides, it wasn't the only game: the first Assassin's Creed game also had only a disk check on the retail version and relegated itself to whatever DRM, if any, was used on DD stores and Ubisoft still saw a sales increase with AC2 and AC:B. I'd love to see your excuse for *that* one.
Prepare to get modbombed for criticizing Google.
No, only for spreading old and stale FUD against Google.
Meanwhile, the people voting you down won't address the fact that Google provides no indemnification.
Obviously, since you can't post and mod at the same time. Other people however have addressed the point many times in the past: you don't get patent indemnification *anywhere* else in the industry, and that's because large corporations don't remain large by being naive enough to think that judges are infallible and would never avail the insane demands of a patent troll.
It seems to me, overly restrictive DRM would necessarily cause more piracy not less.
That's what they thought three years ago, they tested that theory, and it failed.
From Ubisoft's perspective, anything more than zero is a win if they assume it will more than offset those who won't buy because of the DRM. Not a happy thought, but I suspect the numbers add up the right way for them.
They don't even have to assume, they already tried the opposite approach.
Kind of sad to think that we'd have gotten rid of the nasty trash that's DRM by now if only gamers had actually bought the game instead of pirating it shamelessly, but I guess it's one of the problems of being the rare adult in a teenager-oriented market.
Not really. You see, the Orwellian DRM was tried only *after* they tried putting games out there without any copy protection whatsoever, and saw sales figures tank as a result.
Sucks to be us, but we've nobody to blame for this one other than our fellow gamers.
Kinda hard to take you seriously, though, when you seem to confuse Ruby on Rails with the Ruby language it's built upon. Or just ignorantly generalize from one to the other.
Then again, as someone with formal training in Software Engineering, I hold a much lower opinion on Anonymous Cowards of all kinds than I do of people proficient in Ruby, Rails or Javascript ;)
No, what he's saying is that if you tell "fuck you" to someone else, you shouldn't be arrested for attempted rape.
NO ONE blasted it as a 'me too' MMORPG when it came out. IN fact, they where pretty much blown away.
Wrong. Perhaps it was luck that you didn't meet any of them, or perhaps it's just your rose-tinted glasses, but there were no shortage back then just as there are now, whether you think they were justified or not.
I haven't read the proposed standard (mostly because, not being a sound engineer, I suspect I wouldn't understand a thing), but wouldn't the problem be solved by limiting not the maximum, but the average instead? us Classical fans get our cannon shots just as Tchaikovsky intended, while mainstream Rock music stops sounding like someone fucking your ear with an ice pick, it's win/win. And as a bonus, anyone wanting to have their music louder would have to have more quiet parts to compensate, meaning they'd be encouraged to utilize the full dynamic range instead of pushing everything to the maximum.
And yet the same World of Warcraft you defend was, and still is, blasted left and right as another "me too" MMO only with Warcraft characters and less demanding graphics.
As the GP said, being creative is a terribly subjective phrase. So much, that in the eyes of anyone who thought WoW was generic, your post comes across as a defense of Carmack's position rather than an attack on it.
The beauty of being an homo sapiens is that I don't need to.
That's like saying Java is superior to C because the latter being "portable assembly" was its whole purpose. Yes, it was so at the beginning, but the language and the frameworks built on top of them grew to encompass much more than that.
Not really. Funny thing about math is that, regardless of your political affiliations or position on same-sex marriages, 2 + 2 still equals 4. Science is pretty much the same, as you'd know if you had bothered to learn it.
I find cigarettes have a calming effect that allows me to put up with assholes like yourself.
Funny way of showing it, perhaps you need more nicotine?
While I'm being mostly facetious, I have noticed that some of my friends get very frustrated over things that don't bother me in the slightest. Stuck in traffic? Turn up the radio and have a cigarette. Calms me right down, versus some of my friends who don't smoke and sit and fume and yell at other drivers.
I know it's paraded around here to the point of being cliche, but... correlation does not imply causation. I'm the same as you yet I've never smoked in my life, so rather than your nicotine addiction being the cause I'd just bet on you having shitty friends to begin with.
People still drink alcohol despite the stench, the expense, the liver problems, hangovers, etc. I suppose the reason they drink is that they're addicted, too.
Well... yeah. Is there any reason why someone would believe otherwise?
The interesting thing is that, if you managed to keep it there long enough, it'd actually work.
Let's be honest: if I asked you which are the modern world's wonders, would you check out UNESCO or Wikipedia? and what would everyone else in your family do?
It's kind of scary, in fact.
Ahh, yes, the good old "I have a right to my opinion, and don't you dare criticize my criticism!" cry that everyone holds until they realize their own working field has been driven to the ground by marketing departments paying more attention to the "faux connoisseurs" than to professionals in the area due to the former spending more money than the latter.
Unless, of course, you do work in Marketing and PR in which case you've never had it better.
Nope, nothing in any of the parents showing how Ogg support implies no MP3 support. The conversation went pretty much like this: "there hasn't been many people asking Ogg support" -> "because most stuff already does" -> "which sucks for the rest of us" -> "explain why" -> "no mp3 support" -> me WTFing.
Even ignoring "clones" that ultimately surpassed the original such as Unix, Linux, GCC and so, Miro is already a well-established project that's been going on for years (the project formerly known as "DemocracyPlayer" btw) and has got a sizeable userbase on PCs, this new marketing strategy is merely the result of one guy noticing that, if Miro makes for such a neat app on PCs it'd be pretty cool to have it on Android as well, and since it'd work roughly iTunes-ish they could market it as such rather than explain all its features one by one.