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Wardrivers Target Seattle Businesses

angry tapir writes "Seattle police are investigating a group of criminals who they say have been cruising around town in a black Mercedes stealing credit card data by tapping into wireless networks belonging to area businesses. The group has been at it for about five years, according to an affidavit signed by Detective Chris Hansen, a fraud investigator with the Seattle Police Department."

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  1. Feed 'em false numbers by karl.auerbach · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It would be easy to set up a weakly protect access point that did nothing but generate bogus transactions with bad credit card numbers - that could pollute the crook's database, particularly if they don't do a good job of recording of which card number came from which network.

    And if the bogus numbers were timestamped and logged then when the bad card numbers are used (and bounced) one could use the bounced transactions to build a map of where the crooks were on any given day.

    1. Re:Feed 'em false numbers by clang_jangle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm always amazed at shows like CSI and NCIS that make it look as though Law Enforcement is all about 1337 h4xx0rz using tech to prevail against evil, when reading between the lines of so many news articles reveals quite a different story.

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  2. No surprise by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We discovered that the company below us a few years back (here in Seattle) had not only an open wifi but also had all of their drives shared. We immediately went down stairs and warned them after one of us accidentally connected to their wifi and saw a whole bunch of computers (with official sounding names even) pop up in the file explorer.

    Their reaction? "Whatever." They never put a password on it. I was actually surprised by their disinterest in locking down when alerted. Even after we told them that people could just drive by and steal all their company records... so stupid.

    1. Re:No surprise by blair1q · · Score: 4, Funny

      Let me guess. It was these guys.

    2. Re:No surprise by dissy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That is unfortunately a very common reaction. I don't understand how people could not care either.

      Another unfortunately common reaction is, after trying to be nice and warn them about the problem, once someone else actually does exploit the problem, they likely will come back to blame you :/

      I do hope for your sake that doesn't happen, but I've had it happen to me before, and was shocked at the multiple layers of stupid their line of thinking was.

      These days I don't even bother unless I already know the person. Being accused of a serious crime for only trying to help just isn't worth the chance.

    3. Re:No surprise by PRMan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A company I used to work for was next door to a lawyer and all her drives showed up on our phones using Bluetooth (it was annoying when trying to reconnect your headset because you had to scroll past her 7 drives).

      I told her about it and she didn't care! I told her that anyone could read her clients' confidential documents. She told me that she would sue them...<facepalm>

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  3. Re:Seattle Police - Priorities Are Not Job One by Posting=!Working · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't afford a Mercedes tho

    It was a 1988 Mercedes. The laptop and antenna might have cost more than the car.

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    This sentence no verb.
  4. Re:SMBs should stand up and take notice by plover · · Score: 4, Funny

    With money to be made breaching networks, practitioners of one of the oldest professions in the world, will be learning to breach insecure WiFi networks

    Hookers are taking hacking classes now? Finally some slashdotters are going to meet some women!

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  5. Re:Seattle Police - Priorities Are Not Job One by ustolemyname · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Exactly. But he was leaping to some crazy conclusion of this logic:
    These guys were wardriving + the police are after them = cops are after them because they were wardriving
    Which is stupid. The cops are after these guys for misusing the information they obtained, not because they were wardriving. If they had been wardriving, and simply retained the information for their own use the cops never could have found them and never would have needed to. Quite frankly his posts are aggressive and irrational, and I was trying to explain to him why the cops are actually after these guys. From the first sentence in the summary:

    stealing credit card data

    And if you RTFA you learn that the owner of the Mercedes was only discovered after he was busted performing other forms of fraud.

  6. Re:Seattle Police - Priorities Are Not Job One by dissy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Using someone else's credit card is criminal. Doesn't matter if they use a megaphone and tell the whole world what it is

    While yes using someone else's credit card fraudulently is criminal, I wouldn't say the megaphone bit doesn't matter.

    Screaming out their customers credit cards of course does NOT excuse the wardrivers crime in any way shape or form. But the separate act of sending all of their customers credit card information to the world should also be a crime as well.

    At the very least I wish the police would post a list of these companies, so the general public knows they can not be trusted with our business.

    At most, the companies should be brought up on charges of mishandling customer credit accounts and fraud.
    They will just need to schedule that court case for a different day than the wardrivers court date, so everyone can attend.