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PSN Outage Continues, Console Hack Claimed To Be Responsible

Over the weekend, we discussed news that the PlayStation Network had been down for days, with Sony saying little other than that it was caused by an "external intrusion" and that they were "rebuilding their network." Many of you have written to point out that the outage continues, with Sony saying they "don't have an update or timeframe to share at this point." One theory about the cause behind the network's downtime was recently espoused on Reddit by 'chesh,' a moderator at PlayStation-modding enthusiast site PSX-Scene.com. According to him, recently released custom firmware called Rebug allowed people to essentially turn their PS3s into dev consoles, though some features were missing. A different group supposedly used this firmware to get on PSN through the developer networks, and also found that fake credit card numbers were not being validated for game purchases, leading to what chesh called "extreme piracy." He acknowledges that this theory is speculation. Sony's handling of this outage is starting to draw attention from the government. Update: 04/26 20:47 GMT by S : Sony just posted more details, saying that a massive data breach occurred: An "unauthorized person" has PSN users' "name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID." Billing address, password questions, and credit card info may also have been taken.

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  1. Speculation by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I understand that the slashdot community might be anxious to see the PSN come back up, but do we seriously have to start publishing nothing more substantial than speculation?

    Also, I've met Dick Blumenthal. He's a very nice man. However, he is, by no means, "the government", nor does a single letter from a freshman senator constitute "attention from the government".

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    1. Re:Speculation by ThePhish · · Score: 5, Informative

      You are correct, he is not the government...but he was CT's Attorney General for 20 years, and has long championed consumer rights and technology . So, him picking this battle as a freshman senator is technically accurate, but it does not reflect his multi-decade experience in the arena.

    2. Re:Speculation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, here's some "speculation" from Patrick Seybold // Sr. Director, Corporate Communications & Social Media.

      http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/26/update-on-playstation-network-and-qriocity/

      "... an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained."

      Looks pretty bad to me. Anybody that reads and understands the above will never provide their real name or birthdate to a corporation online again. Ever.

  2. Re:There's some karma for you, Mikey by tripleevenfall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A one-week outage does not make Xbox live better.

  3. Re:government? by tripleevenfall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is there anything that isn't government business anymore?

  4. Re:There's some karma for you, Mikey by xMrFishx · · Score: 5, Funny

    On the other hand, PSN can't actually get worse by being down.

  5. Re:government? by kevinNCSU · · Score: 5, Insightful

    why is the PSN outage any of the (US?) government's business?

    Because Senators are suppose to represent their constituents and the issues they care about (lets leave the vote pandering cynicism discussion as off-topic for now) and his constituents are worried their personal/financial details were compromised in the attack so it makes sense that he would ask Sony whether or not this is the case as he has a better chance of being responded to because he wields more power.

  6. Re:There's some karma for you, Mikey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It makes just about anything else better, for a week.

  7. Valve by bazald · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It would be nice to be able to activate the PC version included with my PS3 copy of Portal 2. You're in a somewhat unique position to improve matters, given that you were planning to make the PC version available to us anyway.

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  8. Theory, speculation, bullshit. by ToasterMonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One theory about the cause behind the network's downtime was recently espoused on Reddit by 'chesh,' a moderator at PlayStation-modding enthusiast site PSX-Scene.com. According to him, ... [snip]
    He acknowledges that this theory is speculation.

    Slashdot should to change its moniker to "Jerry Springer for Nerds". All that's missing is a video feed of some grimy sweat pants wearing nerds furiously typing away virtual beatdowns over who got who's virtual girlfriend knocked up.

    This whole "new media" thing is unconvincing.

  9. Re:There's some karma for you, Mikey by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A one-week outage does not make Xbox live better.

    Yeah, it's not the outage that makes Xbox live better, it's the external intrusion. Nothing quite like an external intrusion into a company that holds your credit/debit card data to make you wish you could pay for better service.

  10. Re:There's some karma for you, Mikey by nschubach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even if Sony offered a pay service, the same would have likely happened. I don't see the validity in your complaint.

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  11. Official word from Sony finally by ShaggusMacHaggis · · Score: 5, Informative

    "We have discovered that between April 17 and April 19, 2011, certain PlayStation Network and Qriocity service user account information was compromised in connection with an illegal and unauthorized intrusion into our network.

    Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.
    "

    http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/26/update-on-playstation-network-and-qriocity/

  12. Re:Sony's Silence says it all by Goffee71 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oh, Sony takes that very minute to make full confession:

    Press the NUKE button now!

    Thank you for your patience while we work to resolve the current outage of PlayStation Network & Qriocity services. We are currently working to send a similar message to the one below via email to all of our registered account holders regarding a compromise of personal information as a result of an illegal intrusion on our systems. These malicious actions have also had an impact on your ability to enjoy the services provided by PlayStation Network and Qriocity including online gaming and online access to music, movies, sports and TV shows. We have a clear path to have PlayStation Network and Qriocity systems back online, and expect to restore some services within a week.

    We’re working day and night to ensure it is done as quickly as possible. We appreciate your patience and feedback.



    Valued PlayStation Network/Qriocity Customer: We have discovered that between April 17 and April 19, 2011, certain PlayStation Network and Qriocity service user account information was compromised in connection with an illegal and unauthorized intrusion into our network. In response to this intrusion, we have:

    Temporarily turned off PlayStation Network and Qriocity services; Engaged an outside, recognized security firm to conduct a full and complete investigation into what happened; and Quickly taken steps to enhance security and strengthen our network infrastructure by re-building our system to provide you with greater protection of your personal information.

    We greatly appreciate your patience, understanding and goodwill as we do whatever it takes to resolve these issues as quickly and efficiently as practicable. Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained. For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email, telephone, and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive information. Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email, asking for your credit card number, social security number or other personally identifiable information. If you are asked for this information, you can be confident Sony is not the entity asking. When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them, as well. To protect against possible identity theft or other financial loss, we encourage you to remain vigilant, to review your account statements and to monitor your credit reports. We are providing the following information for those who wish to consider it: U.S. residents are entitled under U.S. law to one free credit report annually from each of the three major credit bureaus. To order your free credit report, visit www.annualcreditreport.com or call toll-free (877) 322-8228. We have also provided names and contact information for the three major U.S. credit bureaus below. At no charge, U.S. res

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  13. Forget CC#s, there is a worse scenario by Mysteray · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd written a blog post speculating about a worst-case scenario involving attackers using the leaked firmware signing keys to push a malicious firmware update from Sony's compromised backend servers. Personally, I've disconnected my PS3 from the network until the all-clear sounds from Sony.

  14. Re:And everyone was saying hacking their ps3 was o by Chyeld · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or we are seeing what happens when a company become so arrogant that they don't bother actually locking down this info despite the fact that it would be inevitable that someone would come along and find a backdoor.

    Seriously, a 'hacked PS3' being able to do this is pretty much the definition of "Security Design Failure".

  15. Re:Take note by afidel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nope, all personal data stored with your PSN account has been compromised. It's taken this long for the forensic team to verify what people suspected. Everything including name, address, birth date, the answers to your account reset questions (used by *many* sites), email address, and *passwords* (haven't they heard of a f'ing hash!). Obviously Sony has a worst case scenario here and they wanted to be absolutely sure it was as bad as they feared before coming forward. This probably means legal trouble for them in the EU, and it might actually get Congress off their arse to enact some privacy legislation.

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  16. Evils of DRM by tekrat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, can't you wait until your Blu-Ray player stops working too, every time you want to watch a movie? This is why you can't have "server" verification. Because there's no guarantee the server will be there.

    Tell your friend to return the game. It's broken. Get his money back. It's designed to fail.

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  17. Re:There's some karma for you, Mikey by Seumas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sony does offer a paid service and it is identical to the free one, except it offers discounts on some downloadable games and automated patch downloads. It's called PSN Plus. PSN Plus users are also down right now and they are also part of the same data breach. So, the paid service is identical to the free service and the paid service is just as insecure as the free service.

  18. Re:There's some karma for you, Mikey by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

    you might as well. The cognitive dissonance could be hilarious to watch!

    I don't know, I wouldn't do it if you value him as a friend at all. A friend of mine is a big PS3 fan and I told him, look, there's no way PS3 can be the best when they have this sort of outage. It threw him into some kind of crazy logic-loop, and he started beeping and asking for someone named "Norman" to straighten things out for him...

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  19. Re:Cultural effect? by foetusinc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes - the Japanese as a rule will not speculate on worst case scenarios the way westerners do. They will say what they know has happened or is wrong, not what could be wrong or might have happened. This is often perplexing to both sides, so that they'll think we're being hyperactive or paranoid, and we'll assume they're being obfuscatory or secretive.

  20. Re:There's some karma for you, Mikey by mug+funky · · Score: 4, Insightful

    face-saving talk...

    if they say "may have been", they mean "definitely has been".

    if they say "working around the clock to fix it", they mean "shitting in our pants and yelling at our techies but not authorizing overtime for them".

    the mere mention of CC details, and the advice to avoid scammers is basically confirmation.

    they're using the same language that TEPCO has been using the last month (not just Japanese).