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Apple To Distribute OS X Lion via the Mac App Store
An anonymous reader writes "Apple this Summer is expected to release Mac OS X Lion. As opposed to other OS X releases, however, Lion will also be available for purchase via the Mac App Store, further solidifying Apple's efforts to make the Mac App Store an integral part of the Mac user experience." A lot of questions surrounding this related to the ability to make bootable disks. And also, why don't they just use apt-get? I gotta admit: it makes me nervous getting my OS from an App Store — which is strange considering how many kernels I've downloaded, built and booted over the years.
I think you're probably correct about the direction Apple is headed in. I bought my first Mac in 1987 but their behavior has effectively alienated me the last couple of years, along with the fact that OS X is nearly as buggy as windows now, and plus the Applestore techs were not competent to repair the last Mac I owned (If you have to replace the replacement "logic board" then maybe the problem wasn't ever the "logic board").
As far as the OS goes, Tiger was the pinnacle -- it's gone downhill since then. I think I knew in my heart this would happen in 2005, the day they issued the Tiger update that eliminated console login.
Caveat Utilitor
This is just the latest attempt to promote the Mac app store, but it's also another step toward what's ultimately coming. Mac computers will one day be every bit as closed off as iPhones and iPads, with all software having to come through the Mac app store the same way it has to now with the iPhone/iPad app stores.
It's also eating their own dog food and getting the OS upgrade over the internet seems like a good thing: less pollution, no waiting, etc. Apps downloaded through the Mac App Store are regular files just like those downloaded from anywhere else. I'm guessing this software update will be just an image stored somewhere on your hard disk. I won't say Apple would never do what you're suggesting but I will say they can't. You can't get the toothpaste back into the tube. If they truly wanted to do what you describe they'd have to replace computers entirely with iOS based devices, I can't see that happening.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error.
I don't think anyone is claiming that app-stores in general are a bad thing. It's just that Apple has in the past proven that they are more than willing to set up a platform so that their app-store is the ONLY method for getting software on the device. The other players you mention have not done that.
Consider it like a kitchen knife. I use kitchen knives all the time - they're wonderful tools with a lot of utility. If Wolfgang Puck asks to borrow one I wouldn't regard that with a bit of suspicion. If Charles Manson asked for one though, there's going to be an issue.
Apple has already destroyed my trust in them. The locked down situation on their mobile devices isn't a "What if", a "You know, they might . . .", or any other situation. It's real, it's here. They did it. I don't trust them anymore. End of story.
"People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who do."-Mark Twain
As I said, the problem was the only answer they seem to have at the Applestore (at Lennox Mall, Atlanta) is "replace the 'logic board'". And when that "logic board" dies, replace it again. That'll fix it!
:) So until Linux has it's pro multimedia act together I'll just use the old Macs that were tanks and ran forever with the old software. They still work just fine for that purpose.
They may have been trying to just patch it up and get rid of me because I was nearly out of warranty and by "fixing it" to work for just a few more weeks they expected I'd be back with cash to spend. Maybe that works on some people, but when it died yet again, this time out of warranty, I just junked it and replaced it with an old tank of a G4 running Tiger (It's a recording studio Mac, not a personal machine). It isn't as if the state of multitrack recording software has changed all that much in the last decade.
Caveat Utilitor
"And also, why don't they just use apt-get?"
Because most people are not comfortable with the command line.
The App Store IS the same idea as apt-get: a small interface to a trusted repository that you can download all kinds of things from. But it's got a hell of a lot more time and love put into the user interface. The App store is apt-get for people who are not interested in the inner workings of their computer.
Are you uncomfortable with getting updates to your Android phone's OS from Google/the manufacturer/your carrier over the net? Are you uncomfortable with your 360 or PS3 getting system updates? It's the same principle.
I don't know if I'll be updating my Air to Lion by buying a tiny little USB drive or by hitting the App Store. I've found myself making jokes like "Removable storage? How quaint!" when being passed data on a USB drive, so it's quite possible that this will feel like a compelling option - do I really need to add to the collection of OSX DVDs gathering dust on my shelf? I've got more than enough atoms in my life. Keep digital data digital.
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And I suspect this was precisely the issue. In my experience Linux experts who try to admin Macs quite often break things in ingenious ways. It's not their fault; the underpinnings of OS X look misleadingly similar to Linux when viewed from a terminal - 'look all the familiar directories are there' and many of the familiar tools. But these are traps for the unwary. OS X does things its own way and trying to admin via the CLI using a system that looks superficially similar, rather than going the 'Mac way' tends to end up with the system horribly borken.