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Facebook Admits Hiring PR Firm To Smear Google

hasanabbas1987 writes "The clash of the Internet Giants reached new heights after a spokesman for Facebook confirmed to Daily Beast that Facebook paid a high level Public Relation firm to publish and spread stories against Google throughout the media to study various methods to examine the allegations that Google has been violating user privacy."

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  1. Summary is wrong by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Facebook didn't hire them to publish stories against Google. That would be libel. They merely hired them to help educate the public about Google's anti-privacy practices that may violate the Consumer Protection Act. That's all. It's just part of Facebook's ongoing efforts to help educate us all and make us better consumers.

    And who better to educate us on privacy than Facebook, after all--a company well-known for its respect for user privacy?

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  2. Re:Ummm, what the eff? by The13thSin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, and it should link to the original source of the story, not this crappy write-up on some unknown blog.

    Original: [link]

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  3. Which is why education is important by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is why the dumbing-down of our educational system is so tragic.

    The fact is that we have access to more information than any people in history, but if one is unable to think CRITICALLY about the data, it's almost worse than useless.

    Why, do you suppose, Fox News is telling us about Obama's latest gaffe?
    Why, do you suppose, a failed presidential candidate makes a movie telling us how the world is going to hell?

    Certainly, the basic information could be true or false; more likely it's a careful presentation of the factual or a blend of fact and supposition in order to encourage a specific response in the reader.

    Without a good education we're unable to participate as useful citizens, and are merely a remotely-controlled 'demographic' that marches according to what the media tells us to. Sadly, this programming has always been with us and always will. The educational system used to program us to be good, unquestioningly patriotic citizens, but at least squeezed in some knowledge in the meanwhile. Now it programs our kids into reflexive iconoclasts, that they are 'good' regardless of what they do, and that their self-esteem is far more important than any silly facts, particularly if those facts came from dead white men.

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    1. Re:Which is why education is important by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The fact is that we have access to more information than any people in history, but if one is unable to think CRITICALLY about the data, it's almost worse than useless.

      Having ACCESS to the data, and having the data itself in front of you are two completely different things. Do you think that I'm going to spend my day looking for hard facts about Google or any other company I don't really care about. I have things to do!!

      This is all about the media industry and its _actual_ role as a hired out propaganda apparatus. Wealthy interests pay newspapers, radio and TV station to publish the stories those interests wish to see published. That's how the media operates and that's how it will _always_ operate.

      All that claptrap about "the free press" and "guardians of democracy" is a pile of cow dung, as anyone who lived through the last 10 years can easily tell. Read your history books and you will see that it has always been thus. The media consists almost entirely of hired shills, whose job it is to influence your opinion in exchange for money. This story is simply and admission by one of their clients.

      Todays Fun Fact: Most PR employees are in fact former journalists(or journalism majors).

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  4. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How dickish.

    Indeed it is. And Facebook is not the worst offender by far. Ever notice that when a critical Microsoft story comes up, we are bombarded by comments from certain people? dave420, x**xy**yo(or whatever), bing tsher, westlake, d'aldredge, and many more names that escape me now. Of course, when a pro-Google story pops up, the usual suspects are right there to jeer them down. It is tiresome. Then the sock puppet accounts come to mod up the shills and mod down any dissenters.

    Remember the Kin? Hordes of astroturfers came to tell us all that if we didn't see how a dumb-smartphone aimed at tweens with a plan of 80 dollars a month would succeed, we just didn't get it? Then the things sell less than 10000 units. Apparently nobody else got it either. Or the Zune HD? Took 10 seconds for the calculator app to start and then you were subjected to advertising to boot. But the shills kept screeching that it was just going to kill the iPod touch and they couldn't wait to sell "their" ipod to go get that piece of shit. And the shills keep telling us how good Vista was and how well 7 runs on netbooks even though it is slower than congealed shit. Of course, now the refrain is the iPad is just a "consumption" device and just wait for Windows 8. Yeah like $WINDOWS_CURRENT_VERSION's shortcomings will all be addressed when $WINDOWS_NEXT_VERSION comes out. Same refrain.

    Just know shills, that shit may have worked on OS/2 vs NT when you all flooded usenet but, the competitors are much stronger now and people apparently think a little more critically.

    If anyone really wants to see how the masters orchestrate this farce, start here

  5. Corporate Mottos 2011 by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google - Don't be evil.
    Microsoft - Be incompetent.
    Intel - Be oligopolistic.
    Dell - Be beige.
    Acer - Be shoddy.
    HP - Be recurrent.
    Cisco - Be expensive.
    Sony - Be invasive.
    Twitter - Terse.
    Apple - Be exclusive.
    Facebook - Be evil.

    1. Re:Corporate Mottos 2011 by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

      Amazon - Be cloudy.
      Slashdot - Be a dupe.
      Yahoo - Be mediocre.
      Slashdot - Be a dupe.
      Wikipedia - Be {citation needed}.
      Ebay - Be A+++++.
      Youtube - Be dat vid suked ur gay u faget.
      Craigslist - Be a prostitute.
      RIM - Be outdated.
      Verizon - Be abusive.
      T-Mobile - Wear a sun dress.
      AT&T - Be... [carrier lost]

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  6. Re:Wow by oakgrove · · Score: 5, Informative

    What is the difference between a shill and a fanboi?

    A shill is paid whether he likes the product or not, generally follows some sort of script and is usually an account manned by more than one person. It's really a coordinated attack on the truth. A fanboy genuinely likes the product and, though extreme, is actually representative of the true fan base. It's the difference between grass-roots and astroturf to use the terminology generally associated with the phenomenon.

    Real fanboys don't bother me because it's all in good fun but shills are pure poison and the practical differences are significant as what happened on usenet during the OS/2 NT wars. Say a product comes out and there are 10,000 people roaming around on the internet that actually care about it and post to message boards with a 50/50 distribution of for/against. Then a "relationship management" firm gets in the game with multiple shill accounts on the most important sites, i.e., Engadget, Slashdot, Zdnet, etc. It's not that hard to turn the conversation on its head with a coordinated campaign on a few target sites with the right kind of money in a specific time frame. Those 5000 people out of our hypothetical 10,000 can easily be drowned out by a room full of Indians shilling full time for the company du jour. This happens all of the time and has been going on for a while.

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  7. Re:Wow by the_B0fh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That would be me. Fuck Microsoft and its shitty OutFuckingLook. I've wasted 3 weeks of my life because of that piece of shit.

    1) Can't *COPY* a piece of mail, have to move it. So I have to export the mailbox in order not to screw with the user's mailbox.
    2) exporting a 2Gig file out of outlook can take 1 whole business day.
    3) Hell, syncing a 2G mailbox from sexchange can take 1 whole business day.
    4) why is there no tools to convert from OST to PST?!
    5) And how do you export to PST? File -> Open -> Import -> Export to a file. WHAT THE FUCK?
    6) Indexing sucks more ass. I have a quad core 16Gig system. 1% cpu utilization. But NOOOOO, MICROFUCK MAKES IT SO THAT I HAVE TO WAIT ONE WHOLE FUCKING DAY FOR THE INDEXING TO RUN IN THE BACKGROUND WITH NO WAY TO INCREASE PRIORITY.
    7) OK, now all done. WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SEARCH MENU? OH, IT'S PLAYING FUCKING HIDE AND SEEK. You have to click on the search box, then the fucking search menu pops up (so that I can find out what is the current indexing status)
    8) Really, Microsoft, is it SO FUCKING HARD TO MAKE IT AN OPTION TO MAKE SEARCH ALL SUBFOLDERS THE DEFAULT? I'M IN THERE *SEARCHING* FOR SHIT. Why WOULD I NOT WANT TO SEARCH ALL THE FUCKING SUB FOLDERS?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU MORONS!

    So, how many business days did I just waste, just so that I can search a mailbox for some terms and create a new mailbox with those emails?

    On unix, with maildir, I can run swish-e, and be done in a couple of hours. The HATE AND LOATHING I have for OutFuckingLook just cannot be understated.