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EFF Presses Apple To Indemnify Developers

Posted by Soulskill on from the an-apple-a-day-keeps-the-trolls-away dept.

Julie188 writes "The Electronic Frontier Foundation is calling on Apple to indemnify its developers from Lodsys — a patent troll that's alleging patent infringement on the in-app purchasing used by iOS apps. (That's the technology developed by Apple and forced on many of its developers.) The letters Lodsys has been sending out came to light on May 13th, and apparently developers have been asking Apple for help to no avail."

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  1. Re:mocoNews article explains Apple's dilemma well by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except that that article addresses nonexistent issues. The EFF is not demanding that Apple indemnify developers against all patent lawsuits, but rather against lawsuits relating to technologies that Apple ships with iOS and which Apple requires developers to use as part of the developer agreement. Additionally, the article claims that doing this would grant legitimacy to the Lodsys patent; but Apple already granted them legitimacy by signing an agreement with Lodsys.

    The real lesson here is for developers: don't let someone else dictate to you how you should write your software.

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  2. Failing that... by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Failing the abolishment of software patents, the lesson here is that the entire iOS development model spelled trouble. You are required to write your software in a particular way, using particular languages and technologies, and you have to distribute it through the App Store and give Apple a cut of your revenue. Developers should have refused such an agreement, and in the future developers should refuse similar agreements (I have no doubt that we will continue to see companies trying to exert such control over developers).

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  3. Re:mocoNews article explains Apple's dilemma well by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really? Funny, when last I checked, I can write software using whatever programming language I want, and whatever technology is feasible, on my laptop. Nobody tells me what languages I am allowed to use or requires me to use their method of processing purchases. I can even run a different operating system with a completely different design in a virtual machine, if I feel that a different operating system would be better for developing my software.

    So where is that dictation you were talking about?

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  4. Re:Apple vs EFF? by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "If I had an annoying neighbor that harassed me about the length of my grass, the hours I mowed the lawn, how many cars I had parked in the drive way, etc..."

    ...and he came over to let you know someone was burgling your garage, you would tell him to fuck right off, because he's annoying?

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  5. Why is this patent not yet invalidated? by kimvette · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This patent needs killed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_elements_test

    It fails the obviousness test, and it also fails prior art. After all, the button is merely a hyperlink to an app purchase page, and that has been present in shareware and trialware applications for nearly two full decades, and that in itself is a very minor update over older shareware which displayed an ASCII order form which cvould be printed and mailed to the vendor to purchase the full version of the application.

    This is not an invention deserving protection as patent law defines it, and this patent surely does not meet the Constitutional guideline:

    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

    because granting a government-enforced monopoly on prior art does not "promote the progress of Science and useful Arts" but hinders such progress.

    I'd love to choke the hell out of the next wank who takes an old idea and files a patent for "$foo, on a $bar device" then sues all the little guys using that prior art. Unfortunately killing those who need killing is illegal these days. Progress is great and all, but isn't it nice sometimes to dream of frontier law making a comeback?

    This is why China and everyone else is leaping ahead: American companies have long since forgotten the principle of long term investments and real engineering and science R&D but have instead decided to become bottom feeders and litigate rather than innovate, and pat themselves on the back for calling litigation innovation. Disgusting. I often wonder if I should go back to school and become an attorney so I can fight against the insanity of IP law.

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  6. Re:So buy a license. by michelcolman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why not?

    0.575% for having an update mechanism
    0.575% for a button that displays settings
    0.575% for using a different color for certain text
    etc...

    This has to be stopped before it goes to far (which it already has).