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Unabomber Property Up For Creepy Online Auction

coondoggie writes "Ok this is kind of creepy. The US Marshalls Office today said it will hold an online auction of the personal effects of the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski. The auction will run until June 2 and will include personal documents, such as driver's licenses, birth certificates, deeds, checks, academic transcripts, photos, and his handwritten codes; typewriters; tools; clothing; watches; several hundred books; and more than 20,000 pages of written documents, including the original handwritten and typewritten versions of the 'Unabom Manifesto.'"

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  1. Re:In your face by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm certain that watching the state sneeringly auction off his personal effects on the internet from his cage for the amusement of the crowd will serve as a devastating rebuke to his thesis that technology inevitably tightens its grip on the individual and drives them to ever shallower and more inauthentic attempts at activity.

    I find the guy's terrorist activities deeply distasteful, and he certainly deserves to rot in jail for them; but as a theorist of the sociology of technological advance, he is actually pretty underrated...

  2. Re:Not creepy but smart, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Stupid question, but... will Unabomber fans be sending their payment in by mail?

  3. Re:Fruad by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

    I am disturbed by this as well. Unless Ted Kacynkski signed a waiver to allow the government to auction off what can be considered private records, I don't see how the government should be allowed to do this. Selling off other property to pay restitution to his victims, I don't have a problem with.

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  4. Montana Property by ISoldat53 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Too bad the Montana property isn't included. It's in a pretty part of the state.

    1. Re:Montana Property by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Informative

      Kaczynski's Montana property was sold last year. This is an auction of personal property, probably the items that were seized from the cabin as evidence.

  5. Psychological Experiments by waterford0069 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's sad about this is that Kaczynski was the subject of what I'll argue were some pretty wicked and unethical psychological experiments when he was in school - long before he ever became a danger to the world. Some have suggested that these experiments pushed him over the edge.

    1. Re:Psychological Experiments by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually the whole idea of this auction comes off a pretty crass and pathetic. The auctioning off of the personal affects of what was clearly a mentally disturbed individual, only claimed as sane by a very distorted US legal system (clearly his actions speak volumes about his lack of mental stability). It's looks like the US marshals office in all of it's jock strap douchiness is celebrating the failure of an ohh evil intellectual, "We will use the technology that Kaczynski railed against" speaks very much of petty jealously.

      Celebrating the the turning of mentally unstable people into non-persons by denying them any personal affects is really petty.

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    2. Re:Psychological Experiments by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Informative

      Kaczynski was a guinea pig in the MK Ultra program... where people were subjected to "surreptitious administration of drugs and other chemicals, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, isolation, and verbal and sexual abuse."

    3. Re:Psychological Experiments by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's looks like the US marshals office in all of it's jock strap douchiness is celebrating the failure of an ohh evil intellectual, "We will use the technology that Kaczynski railed against" speaks very much of petty jealously.

      Nah, you're reading into it more than is there.
       

      Celebrating the the turning of mentally unstable people into non-persons by denying them any personal affects is really petty.

      Nah, it's standard practice to sell off items seized as part of law enforcement investigations/prosecutions. The only thing notable here is who the property once belonged to.

  6. most should have been donated by rubycodez · · Score: 2

    Most of these things should have been donated to psychology or criminology school, or similar scholastic endeavor.

  7. Re:Slashdot: nerd news up to the minute... by ari_j · · Score: 2

    ...too bad CNN has been crying about the Kacynkski auction for 2 WEEKS now.

    Not only behind... 2 weeks behind.

    The editors had to wait until someone blogged about it and then submitted his own blog article to the site.

  8. Re:In your face by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    Pragmatism means never assuming your ideological assumptions are absolutely right, and allowing yourself to compromise. You call it a cop-out, I call out a corollary to Asimov's famous axiom "Never let your sense of morality prevent you from doing what's right."

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  9. Re:None of those things are private by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Interesting

    None of the items mentioned can be considered private records. Driver's licenses, birth certificates, deeds, and academic transcripts are publicly accessible anyway, even before they become evidence in a criminal trial.

    Birth certificates and academic transcripts are considered private. Except for immediate families of the person but I can assure you that you cannot get these records of individuals from the state. That was part of the BS of the whole Birther controversy with Birthers complaining that somehow Hawaii was making an exception for Obama when it is clear in all states that birth certificates are not public records.

    The other items became public information or government property once they were entered into evidence in the court proceedings against him, unless Kaczynski's attorney won a court order to have the evidence sealed or to have the items returned to him - which he didn't.

    The existence of property held by the state does not automatically make a piece of property eligible for public viewing. In the many cases, all the state did was to list the property as in their possession as required by law; the state did not list the contents (or make it available to the public) especially if the piece of evidence was not used at trial.

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