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Nintendo Pulls Dead Or Alive Over Porn Fears In EU
cpu6502 writes "The new Nintendo 3DS game Dead or Alive: Dimensions is being pulled from EU member states Sweden, Denmark, and Norway. The distributor said an in-game photography mode allows players to look-up the dresses of 17-year-old Ayane, Koroke, and Kasumi — which could be considered 'child porn' by local police."
Norway isn't a member of the EU.
Don't bother clicking the link. There aren't any pictures.
Child? You call those virtual plastic-y goddesses of bounce physics CHILDREN?
What is becoming of this world...?
Actually it's not as simple as that.
If it's a real person who's over 18 but looks 12 it will still be legal.
If it's a real person who's 17 but looks 20, it will still be legal.
If it's a fictional character that is 50 but looks 12, it's illegal.
If it's a fictional character that is 18 according to the swedish version of the game but 17 according to every other version of the game then most likely it would be illegal as it would be clear that the age was changed simply to avoid the swedish legal system.
Of course, IANAL but I am swedish.
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Speak for yourself, I want my grave to be made of glass so I can look up girls' dresses after I die.
Make them 18!
I think someone confused Sweden and Scandinavia. Swedes are prudes, and have really weird laws. Denmark on the hand has legalized prostitution, and considers nudity acceptable most places, and sex in public legal as long as you "try" to be discrete.
You've got to be kidding me... This is so ridiculous I can't believe it's real.
It's a video game. They aren't real people. It's pixels on a screen. No child is being harmed, regardless of where you position the camera.
I also doubt if there's much to look at under those skirts. I doubt if the developers spent much time rendering realistic genitalia that'll likely never be seen... And if they were seen, would just generate outrage.
Further, they're 17 in the game. Here in the US that's just one year shy of legal adulthood. Are you telling me that there's some magical transformation on your 18th birthday that renders you immune to the psychological harm of somebody looking at your crotch?
But even if we accept that this is some kind of virtual child pornography that's somehow exploiting underage pixels... If we really want to make sure we protect the children... It's somehow OK to brutally beat them to a pulp? I mean, Dead or Alive is a fighting game. A "beat'em up". Like Tekken or Soul Calibur or Mortal Combat or Street Fighter... It's OK to pummel some virtual 17-year-old girl into a bloody mess, but it isn't OK to look up her skirt? How does that make any kind of sense?
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Place the blame where it should be, in the lap of Beatrice Ask. Just read this interview. She's evidently in favor of thoughtcrime; literally, she says that "children and childhood mustn't be offended" when she's asked about why drawn "child pornography" should be illegal. She's also the one who came up with the crazy suggestion that people who visit prostitutes should have mails with brightly-colored envelopes sent home to them, so that they couldn't keep it a secret from their family (or anyone who saw the letter being delivered). Fortunately, this suggestion wasn't well received by anyone else AFAIK.
Emotions! In your brain!
Now, I'm not that big into Japanese culture. But from what I gather they're not really that "obsessed" with young girls. Not any more than the Dutch are obsessed with dope. Or the average US person with guns.
We just perceive it that way because we get told a lot that these things are legal there while being illegal where we live and our sensationalist media show us that Japanese businessman who buys little girl panties, the Dutch dopehead who smokes one blunt after another in a coffeeshop and the gun-toting redneck enjoying his afternoon with a machine gun.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Two points:
1) What you describe is a stereotype of Japanese culture, which may have a grain of truth behind it, but is based on a rather limited familiarity with that culture, and is not generally true. Japan punishes actual child sexual abuse, much like any other modern industrial country does.
2) What you do see, that gives you this impression, is an example of the unintended consequences of censorship. Japan's culture has its own flavor of prudery, which enacted laws intended to stop the publication of sexually indecent images. One key provision of this was "no images in which pubic hair is visible". But rather than stopping artists and photographers from showing nekkid females, it merely stopped them from showing nekkid females with pubic hair. Which makes them look a bit like children, and in the minds of some Japanese men, has eroticized those childlike features.
But like I said, most Japanese men have no interest in sex with little girls. They may indulge in school-girl fantasies and role-play, they may want their female partners to sport the hairless look of the porn they grew up beating off to. They are obsessed with youth Just Like American Men. But the Japanese are not (as a culture) obsessed with molesting young girls.
images of child sexuality feed the lusts of depraved individuals to the extent they are compelled to act, or think we are complicit with them in their abuse of children
Do you have even one peer-reviewed citation for that? Your claim seems to have as much scientific backing as a claim that a drawing of Muhammad angers Allah and imperils the immortal soul of anyone who sees it.
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To my knowledge the woman hasn't taken a single intercourse
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