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Sprint Pushes FPS NOVA With Firmware — and Users Can't Remove It

theodp writes "If you could change the way wireless companies did things, what would you do?' asked Sprint CEO Dan Hesse. How about stopping the use of Sprint's firmware updates to download apps that aren't wanted and can't be removed, Dan? Sprint confirmed to CNET's Elinor Mills that those strange apps she was shocked to find on her Android phone — sci-fi shooter N.O.V.A. and Blockbuster — with a long list of permissions that couldn't be uninstalled had been sneakily downloaded onto her phone during a firmware update. 'Sprint does offer a variety of partner applications that are optimized for use on our wireless phones,' a Sprint representative explained in an e-mail. 'From time to time, we will provide new apps to our customers in conjunction with a software maintenance release. Also, Sprint, in conjunction with Google, is taking steps to develop a technical solution that would allow customers to remove any unwanted applications that have been preloaded or pushed in an over-the-air software update.'" Asking first would be a nice non-technical solution.

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  1. Root and Flash, Root and Flash. by TrentTheThief · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And some people still wonder why many phone owners want to root their phone or flash a custom ROM?

    I can uninstall or install anything on my G2. Sprint is acting like Sony.

    Bad, Sprint! Bad!

  2. Asking first is not a non-technical solution by Surt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You have to build the technology to ask during installation of a patch, which is generally supposed to be an invisible process. That's the opposite of a non-technical solution.

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  3. This is a problem. by itchythebear · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am a sprint customer, N.O.V.A. is hardly the biggest problem. My main complaint was the stupid sprint sports apps that like to run in the background. I don't like NASCAR, football, or any other of the sports they included apps for that are uninstallable and automatically run in the background. Funny enough, it seemed like the only sport they didn't have an app for was the NHL (something i would have used). The only reason I rooted my phone was do delete all of those apps, and wouldn't you know... I get twice the battery life.

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    1. Re:This is a problem. by hoytak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've got a samsung epic with sprint, and really like it. Two things, though:

      1. Install Advanced Task Killer app. it periodically kills things like this when they run in the back ground. Usually, they don't restart once they are killed. After first booting the phone up, it usually kills 16-18 or so of these crapware apps. Most don't run again.

      2. If you root your phone (your call), you can uninstall all these apps. In fact, there are programs to do that.

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  4. Natural outcome by hackertourist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is what you get when the gadgets are given away or subsidized. Abuse will ensue to make sure the provider recovers their costs.
    On PCs, at least the shovelware is generally removable, and you have the option to buy a nonsubsidized gadget that doesn't have crap installed. In the US phone market, usually the gadget and service are provided by the same party and the abuse includes locking down the OS.

  5. who's phone is it? by guygo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This kind of junk will continue until the carriers realize the phone belongs to the customer, not them.

  6. Re:Just so I understand the problem by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, I think they'd rather develop something that bundles the firmware updater into the game so you can't apply security patches until you beat level 2.

  7. Re:New 4- and 5-Year-Old FPS Fans Give Thumbs-Up by merky1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You handed you child your phone, unattended I'm assuming since it seems the child was killing and slaying long enough to learn the controls to the game. Imagine what you child could have been exposed to if they clicked on the evil internet icon...

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  8. Competition should not BE between carriers by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All carriers would do this if given the chance. That is why it's so important to have cell phone MAKERS that are unwilling to put up with this crap.

    Apple of course is the first that comes to mind, no crapware at all.

    But there's another cell phone maker that does not support this either, I believe Windows Phone 7 also dictates what goes onto the phone, not the carrier.

    This is exactly the kind of thing we should be encouraging, independence from cell phone companies. Desiring openness of the platform over this is selfish because while YOU can work around carrier specifics, the vast majority of people cannot and it's not fair nor desirable to have a world where only the technically educated can function well.

    Ideally we'd have the best of both worlds, open platforms and no ability for the carriers to dictate what goes on the phones they support. But that is not currently possible.

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