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NVIDIA Announces GeForce GTX 560M and GT 520MX Mobile GPUs
MojoKid writes "NVIDIA just took the wraps off of a couple of new mobile GPUs at Computex and announced a slew of notebooks designs that will feature the new chips. The new GeForce GTX 560M and GT 520M will be arriving very soon, in notebooks from Asus, Alienware, Clevo, Toshiba, MSI, Samsung and others. The GeForce GT 520MX is an entry level DirectX 11 GPU designed for thin, light, highly mobile platforms. It sports 48 CUDA cores with a 900MHz graphics clock, 1800MHz shader clock, and 900MHz memory clock. Decidedly more powerful, the GeForce GTX 560M is outfitted with 192 CUDA cores and clocks in at 775MHz, with 1559MHz shaders, and 1250MHz for GDDR5 memory."
But will it run DNF?
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
No where near the desktop part – it has half the number of cores. Still, it'll compete handily with some lesser desktop cards.
Perfect design, made for mobile machines, cheap, powerful, fast, sleek.
"Intel does provide development drivers for Intel graphics to the open source community."
+1 :D
http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-010512.htm?wapkw=(linux)
Bah, the GTX 560M is just a refresh of the GTX 460M. It sports the GF116 chip instead of the GF106 and has got higher clocks, but that's all. *shrugs*
"The body may heal, but the mind is not always so resilient." -- Deus Ex: Human Revolution
I'd say the bigger question is: How long will Nvidia be able to stay afloat? First you have the dirty dealing by Intel (why they haven't been busted for antitrust i'll never know, as between AMD and Nvidia they caused billions in damage to the market with their dirty dealing, even worse than MSFT in the 90s IMHO) which slaughtered their Intel chipset division, causing them to go out of business, and now there is Intel licensing PowerVR for Atom which I'm betting will do to ION what cutting off access to the bus did to their Intel desktop sales
And on the other side you have AMD which frankly doesn't need Nvidia as they have excellent Radeon GPUs both discrete and as APUs with the new Bobcat and Bulldozer chips. Nvidia is still trying to make a little money with their desktop chipsets for AMD, but since they aren't making any new ones all they have left is the bottom of the barrel sub $45 market and from what I've seen most AMD guys (myself included) buy the Radeon chips to go with them so not much money on that side of the isle. Finally you have the fact that while Nvidia designs the monster chips first and then figures out ways to cripple them for the smaller markets AMD switched to simply designing for the midrange and using dual GPUs with HT links for the high end which is the obviously cheaper way to go.
So that leaves phones, HPCs, and discrete GPUs, which while decent markets are nothing like the size of the chipset division and as the APUs get better and better OEMs will be less and less likely to use discrete for anything but the gamer laptops, a teeny tiny niche.
Frankly I'll be amazed if Nvidia is around in 5 years, I really will. Personally I think the moves by intel are designed to slowly bleed Nvidia to make a takeover less expensive. Lets face it Intel has always sucked when it comes to GPUs and having Nvidia to integrate the way AMD did with ATI would give them some serious graphical muscle, although again why nobody has screamed antitrust over the way Intel has been behaving I'll never know. but I can't see the markets they are currently in bringing in enough cash to pay for the massive R&D that having to keep up with AMD costs and from the looks of it the new APUs are gonna end up "good enough" for everyone but hardcore gamers further hurting their bottom line.
So frankly I just don't see how discrete chips like TFA are gonna keep them afloat long term. The discrete chips cost money the OEMs don't have to spend with virtually all the chips from Atom on up coming with GPU on chip, those that buy gamer notebooks are a tiny niche of the overall market and with the vast majority of discrete cards going to the sub $150 market, which favors the AMD "build the MOR chips" over the Nvidia "high end first" model I just don't see how they are supposed to survive long term. CUDA is nice but I don't see it being enough to keep them above water, especially if Intel has eyes on buying them out down the road and keeps up their douchebag behavior.
So how many think Nvidia will be here in 5 years, or will they end up a footnote like Voodoo? Which in a twist of irony if it turns out I'm right was bought by Nvidia after being slowly bled to death by changes in the market. While I switched to AMD only for me and my customers after the Bumpgate mess I'd hate to see Nvidia disappear, especially since it would ultimately be over Intel douchebaggery.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Be wary on the Linux side of the 'Optimus' technology. I didn't do due diligence and impetuously ordered a new laptop from Dell with an nVidia card (GT 525M). Turns out that there was no way in the Dell laptop to turn it off, and Linux couldn't see the nVidia card, just the intermediating Intel card. The ‘automatic graphics switching’ is done in software only under Win7. End result - no OpenGL under Linux. End-end result, I sent it back.
There is a project to get Optimus working on Linux (https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee) but I really don't have time, and the switching has to be done manually at the moment.
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I think NVidia should do an x64 chip. The patents on x86 have mostly expired now. AMD have said they will license the x64 extension to anyone - they've already done it to Transmeta and Via.
An Atom class x64 chip would mean they could do a combined CPU/GPU.
The other option would be to buy Via who've already got an x86 licence. Or even just team up with them to put NVidia GPUs on the same die as Via CPUs. Which would be interesting combination actually. You could scale the performance from Intel Atom to AMD Bobcat. It should be possible to get HD video acceleration pretty easily, and that's something Intel Atom based systems seem to struggle with.
In fact it's a shame Intel won't play nice with NVidia - Like Via Intel make some excellent CPUs but horrid GPUs. NVidia make excellent GPUs but lack an x86/x64 design. Which is kind of an issue in the netbook market. I can see tablets being ARM but legacy x86 applications will run like ass on an Arm via emulation, and that is where all the money is.
echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;