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Patch For The Witcher 2 Removes DRM Shortly After Release

A reader writes with this excerpt from Ars Technica: "A little over a week after its release, The Witcher 2 is getting its first patch, and with it all versions of the game will now be DRM free. 'Our approach to countering piracy is to incorporate superior value in the legal version,' explained development director Adam Badowski. 'This means it has to be superior in every respect: less troublesome to use and install, with full support, and with access to additional content and services. So, we felt keeping the DRM would mainly hurt our legitimate users. This is completely in line with what we said before the release of The Witcher 2. We felt DRM was necessary to prevent the game being pirated and leaked before release.'"

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  1. No DRM for me anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I bought it from gog so there wasn't any DRM in the first place for me. Still, great attitude for them to take. Hope more companies follow suit.

    1. Re:No DRM for me anyway by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      Why is this "bullshit"? Did anyone stick a gun to your head and make you buy it off of Steam? You had the choice of the (IMHO superior) GOG version, with no need for crap running in the background (like Steam), incredibly easy to backup, and all around hassle free version, or you could buy the DRM version from Steam and D2D.

      It was completely up to you which version you bought so don't bitch that 'Wahhh I had to make a choice, wahh!" especially when Steam has been allowing third parties like Ubisoft to add more DRM on top of Steam killing the whole damned point for using Steam in the first place.

      I just hope you were smart and bought the GOG version, I myself just bought the first one and will be getting the second as soon as I'm done with the first. I believe in putting my money where my mouth is and have been buying from GOG almost from the day it opened. If more would support DRM free then hopefully we will one day see DRM games go the way of DRM music. In both cases it only hurts the buyer while the pirate enjoys their stuff DRM free.

      So instead of whining about D2D and Steam having DRM (shock! Surprise!) why not simply always buy from GOG where possible? not to mention as owner GOG gives them 100% of the proceeds from the game VS a percentage with the others, so why the hell shouldn't they support GOG? It would be kinda stupid to give the ones that only give you a cut the same as your own site.

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  2. Interesting Strategy by Brianech · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a new take on DRM and piracy. On the plus its temporary, BUT if it fails to prevent being cracked before the release it could just annoy legit buyers for a week. I for one think its an interesting and positive strategy. They could gain with day 1 sales, and legit buyers get a DRM free product in 1 week. Personally I would put up with it, some may disagree. If you are super anti-drm simply wait 1 week before playing. Seems like a new, positive step in the right direction, and I'm at least happy to see a company try something new.

    1. Re:Interesting Strategy by quadrox · · Score: 2

      I think I am one of those super anti-drm people - but I agree with you. I just wouldn't buy the game until the DRM has been removed. When the DRM has been removed, my concerns are gone and I'll be happy to pay money for it. Ok, I'll have to wait one more week, but I can deal with that.

    2. Re:Interesting Strategy by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      The other thing it gains is that they don't have to support unlocking the game in perpetuity. I'm surprised companies like EA haven't figured out that their profits would go up if they didn't have to support a call center for people who installed Spore more than 5 times.

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  3. Re:Discipline? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most pre-release games come from people working at factory level. People that can swipe a freshly pressed disc. Alphas and Betas are the ones that are either leaked internally, or hacked (like we saw with Half-Life 2).

  4. Re:Someone gets it by Svippy · · Score: 4, Informative

    *cough* paradoxplaza.com/thewesterfront/2010/9/the-drm-dilemma *cough*

    What the summary fails to mention is that the company still will actively be looking for pirates on torrent sites. Paradox Interactive's approach is not to bother at all, but rather provide those with unique CD-keys additional benefits.

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  5. Very nice. by anomnomnomymous · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow, I'm really liking this move, and I think it makes sense. Still, quite admirable that they don't leave the DRM on there for longer.
    The first few weeks is when a game is most at risk of being pirated. Nonetheless, this game is already on several torrent sites, so it's not as if the DRM worked in the first place.

    Anyhows, this is sortof obligatory: Penny Arcade's view on The Witcher :-D

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    1. Re:Very nice. by MemoryDragon · · Score: 2

      Actually Penny Arcades view is not entirely correct. First the fight is not the first one, it is just the first one if you play that submission before another one which comes earlier int he intro story.
      Secondly, the game has in game help but in the middle of a fight it is hard to read the hings, but luckily they are also stored in the journal and there is also a manual which explains a lot.
      There is only one thing which the game definitely does not do, it does not do handholding and you cannot master the fights with simple button smashing.
      And with normal and hard they really mean normal and hard btw. not like normal is advanced easy like so many others do.

      Btw. I died on the mission Penny Arcade talks about also 12 times but only because it was the first submission I played. Everything became more sense when I did the entire prolog in a linear fashion. And I am not really such a good gamer, how anyone can die 47 times on that mission is beyound me.

    2. Re:Very nice. by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 2

      Nonetheless, this game is already on several torrent sites, so it's not as if the DRM worked in the first place.

      As others have mentioned here, this game was always available without DRM if you bought it from GOG.com. Presumable it was this version that got pirated. Even if it wasn't that version, I doubt that they paid top dollar for the best DRM solution if they knew that they would abandon it so soon.

      I just noticed something annoying. When you go to the page that I referenced above from an Australian IP address, you end up paying over US$75 for the game. Bloody region crap! I wont blame GOG for this too much, as I am sure that it is just part of their deal that they can't undercut the official distributors in other regions of the world. At least they say:

      Since the AU price is almost $26 more than the price in USD, weâ(TM)re giving you a $26 USD credit to spend on GOG.com.

      Which is fine for me, but if you are not interested in old games then it would be annoying. Finally, Aussies get a cut down version of the game due to our stupid ratings system because our government will not trust us. Oh well, at least GOG trusts us to enter our details correctly on the account settings page...

    3. Re:Very nice. by tdelaney · · Score: 4, Informative

      GOG no longer relies on IP geolocation services to determine what country you're in, although they use it as an initial determinant. But if you happen to have one of the very very many IP addresses that are "incorrectly" identified as Australian, you can go into your profile and tell them what country you're "really" in.

      Strangely enough, GOG decided to stop relying on geolocation services shortly after they were forced to give higher prices to Australians on The Witcher 2 by the local publisher.

  6. Re:Someone gets it by MareLooke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which is just another form of DRM and it makes the resell value of your game basically zero (which of course is the entire idea). 0-Day DLCs and forced online activation (so you get access to all the content you already paid for) are even worse than the other crap as they require you to give up personal info (to be able to sign up) to companies that have your privacy as a very high priority (hello Sony)

  7. Re:days later.. by Lokitoth · · Score: 2

    The story was DRMed until now.

  8. Re:Thank you by MemoryDragon · · Score: 2

    It was mainly the publisher, the CDProject guys never were happy about the DRM to begin with. Btw. the same goes for the price fixing on the publishers side. They wanted the same price for Europe and the USA, the publisher wanted to charge more in Europe and hence GOG (which is owned by the same company as CDProject) simply gave refunds for various other games in their catalogue to make up for the price difference.
    CDProject are really nice guys and I hope they sell a load of games everyone who pirates this game really is a criminal they went great lengths to be customer friendly.

  9. Re:Thank you by Spikeles · · Score: 2

    I bought the game on GoG($45 USD) because it was $30 cheaper than the Steam version($75 USD) on the Aussie store. DRM free was just the icing on the cake.

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  10. Not from the goodness of their heart by flimflammer · · Score: 2

    The DRM was causing severe issues with the game. The only logical move they could make aside from telling their users tough luck was to remove the DRM.

    It's certainly a nice story but it's not for the right reasons. They're just aiming for some good press by putting a positive spin on the fact that their DRM was defective to the point of breaking the game for its users.

    1. Re:Not from the goodness of their heart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, they always intended to remove the DRM ASAP. I have been a supporter of CD Projekt since they took similar action with The Witcher 1 (removing the godawful TAGES crap).
      Originally it was their intent to have no DRM on the Witcher 2. When I found out they did a U-turn on that (a month or two ago) I contacted their customer support to express my disappointment. I got a very nice e-mail back telling me exactly why they included DRM on some versions of the game (publishing requirements, stopping before-release leaks etc.), where I could get a non-DRM version if I preferred (GoG.com) and that they intended to get rid of it as soon as they were allowed to. They delivered on this promise, which is why I am likely to buy their games again.

  11. Re:Someone gets it by evilbessie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I buy a used car I don't get the original owners warranty or any free stuff which may have come with the original purchase, free services, road tax, insurance offers etc. Not entirely sure why you think a secondhand purchase should be the same as buying new. Being as this is a relatively effective and less intrusive way of reducing piracy it's better this direction than others have taken.

    If you can come up with a good solution to reducing piracy and rewarding genuine purchasers of software then you could make a lot of money.

    Also when I buy a car I am generally required to give lots of personal information, are you suggesting that you should be able to just have software like a book. Well it comes with some services (online content, updates, support) and it is reasonable to request registration for such services.

    You however seem to want the moon on a stick, which I am unable to assist you with.

  12. Re:Someone gets it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I buy a used car I don't get the original owners warranty or any free stuff which may have come with the original purchase, free services, road tax, insurance offers etc.

    Perhaps it is different in the US, but in the UK you can transfer benefits like free services when you sell your car. Obviously they don't recreate the exact same sales package as they do for new games.

    Pretending that this is the same as 0-day / new only offers in games is naive or misleading. I doubt many players have any issue at all with the odd novelty addition for new games, however games have moved well beyond that now. People who buy second hand, get the game with significant content or entire areas of functionality removed. Game devs are no longer even pretending to add extra for people who buy new, they are openly nerfing games for people who buy second hand (removing aspects like multiplayer, or campaign segments).

    Given how much they some companies hate the second hand games market, I don't understand why companies like EA don't simply make their games so they don't work at all if not bought new, or require a ~£5 payment to activate a 2nd hand copy. At least that would be clear, easy to understand and honest (even if I don't like it).

  13. Re:Related News: The Witcher 1 is still not patcha by Tuidjy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just in case someone wants to reinstall the original Witcher: The Patch 1.4 on this page http://www.en.thewitcher.com/the-witcher/1/ will remove the DRM that comes on the retail CD. You will need to download the appropriate language patch in the same directory. And then you can apply patch 1.5 for extra content.

    CD Project are trying. They fucked up big time with the registration servers, but I do not think it was trough malice. Never attribute to malice that which, yada, yada...

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  14. Re:Someone gets it by toxickitty · · Score: 2

    Which part of the article you linked to said "Weill actively be looking for pirates on torrent sites"? All I see relating to the web in the article you linked to is this: "This does not mean, however, that we support piracy or think it is ok to share our games freely over the web. We still believe people should pay for the games they play. After all, this is what keeps this industry running." There's nothing I can find about pursuing pirates online, unless I am missing something? After reading the article I feel like buying the game, is it good? Going to watch some trailers in a bit.

  15. Re:Someone gets it by laughingcoyote · · Score: 2

    No it's not.

    There used to be a pretty decent trade in going up the side of a mountain, bringing down a block of ice, and selling chunks out of it. Then along came freezers, and everyone could make a "copy" of that ice chunk right in their own home. Now ice hauling is no longer a viable business model. Times change, technology disrupts, and sometimes something that was once lucrative becomes superfluous or worthless.

    The selling copies model is dead, and it's only thrashing at all through enforced monopoly (an enforced monopoly over thoughts and numbers, no less). That's not going to work, with a machine designed to make copies in every living room. You are correct that asking nicely for a donation often does, and I often give one. But it's tough to demand money for something people can easily do themselves. If a chef develops a delicious recipe, but it's relatively easy to cook, a lot of people will cook it rather than going to the restaurant. Those who do go to the restaurant will see some benefit in paying that premium (added convenience, the atmosphere, what have you). And no, it makes no difference that in this case the cooking only takes a button press-if anything, that means less reason to go to the restaurant.

    When you develop something that's not actually scarce, don't be surprised if you don't make a ton of money from it. Ideas spread easily, especially now that we've got a global network designed to do exactly that. We're well into a new paradigm here, and if the lumbering old giants want to ignore that-well, we all know what happens when you fail to adapt.

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  16. Re:Someone gets it by sremick · · Score: 2

    When I buy a used car I don't get the original owners warranty

    Not sure what brand you're buying. Maybe you need to buy a better car brand. When I bought my used car (private sale, not a dealer), it still had almost 2 years left on the warranty. And I know it transferred because I made use of it.

    It was a SAAB, and I live in the USA.