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Senior Citizens Lining Up to Tackle Fukushima

Some have compared them to kamikazes, but the more than 200 elderly volunteers who want clean up the Fukushima power station say they are just being practical. 72-year-old retired engineer Yasuteru Yamada says: "I am 72 and on average I probably have 13 to 15 years left to live. Even if I were exposed to radiation, cancer could take 20 or 30 years or longer to develop. Therefore us older ones have less chance of getting cancer." So far the government is hesitant to let the volunteers into the power station but Yamada and the others have been lobbying for the right to aid in the clean up. He says: "At this moment I can say that I am talking with many key government and Tepco people. But I am sorry I can't say any more at this moment. It is on the way but it is a very, very sensitive issue politically."

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  1. 72 year old? by TheCreeep · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "I am 72 and on average I probably have 13 to 15 years left to live. Even if I were exposed to radiation, cancer could take 20 or 30 years or longer to develop. Therefore us older ones have less chance of getting cancer."

    Isn't the "time to cancer" a function of both exposure AND age? It would seem sensible that the senior citizens' cells are already damaged by old age, so exposure to radiation would have a head start as opposed to a 20 year old.
    IANARH (I am not anything relevant here) so I'm really curious about this question.

    1. Re:72 year old? by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't think we really know... But either way you look at it, cancer is going to take fewer years away from a 72yr old than a 30yr old.

      I have to say, though, that you have to have a bit of a death wish to volunteer to take that big a chance on getting cancer. Especially since I think their '20 years to develop' estimate is off by 18 or 19 years.

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      "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
    2. Re:72 year old? by Firethorn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Detecting cancer in a year or two in a 72 year old is probably already pre-existing; it takes time to develop to detectability, much less life-threatening size.

      It also depends on how much dosage they allow these seniors to get - if they follow current guidlines, even the more expedient 'emergency' levels, it might only raise their chances 5%.

      Then again, it might kill an existing cancer(though not likely). You just don't know.

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    3. Re:72 year old? by Aladrin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Seniors are still in the work force because they need the money.

      I was very surprised to learn (from my Japanese language partner in Japan) that 'retirement' means quitting your really nice desk job and getting a crappy manual labor job like bagging groceries. I found this out by offering congratulations when she said her husband was 'retiring'. It was the same conversation that I learned that retirement is not optional when you hit a certain age. (His company it was 60 yrs old. Hers is 65.)

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      "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
  2. Re:Inspiring and selfless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Are you kidding? The US is the nation of the scared. Politicians mention terrorists and the US citizens sell their freedom for some "protection" from the scary thoughts.

  3. Re:Inspiring and selfless by jeffmeden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Their strength is their weakness. The same nobility that inspired these geezers (and i use that term with respect) to volunteer will prevent anyone in government or management from allowing them to go through with it. If they do it, some of them will certainly develop cancer or other serious maladies, and Japan's black eye would only get worse if they were seen sending in their most revered citizens in to die cleaning up a mess caused by some whippersnapper 40 year olds and their slipshod safety procedures.

    No, the only thing that would float is if the Tepco management team themselves "volunteered" to do the clean up, as penance for the disaster they caused.

  4. you're doing it wrong by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    this only continues to prop up the disproven evil Capitalist "privatize the profits, socialize the risks" mindset.

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  5. What you don't understand seems like magic by notnAP · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Stories of the "heroism" of the workers at the plant have confounded Americans, it seems.
    While I am sure there is plenty of actual heroism going on, I start to think part of it is just a matter of being level-headed about it.

    It reminds me of the idea that to the uneducated, science seems like magic. Similarly, it seems that belief in science to the uneducated seems heroic.
    These citizens should be applauded, not for their heroism - for in reality they are risking nothing - but for their willingness to conclude that they are risking nothing, and therefore can save others and improve their world with knowledge and intelligence instead of give in to fear and commercially driven FUD at the detriment of society.

    News Flash from Japan: Brave, Brave souls make smart decisions based on facts instead of media FUD! Pictures (You Gotta see these pictures!) at 11!

  6. Re:Inspiring and selfless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Nuclear engineers, most of them, have been supporting a deadly industry which will inevitable harm people. It is good that some are willing to step up and take responsibility, but it is much more like cleaning up a mess they have contributed to than the heroism of soldiers.

    *cough* *cough* *splutter*

    As a former Nuclear Engineer, turned code monkey, let me call you an ignorant bigot.

    Nuclear Engineers and Scientists know very well how to design safe nuclear power plants. What we end up having to live with are the cost-downs and idiocies after the bean-counters and politicians take charge. "Have you got anything cheaper?"

    Not that I'm bitter and twisted, but my current job is heading to India because of bean-counters...

    See here, here and here.

    The Western World doesn't do Engineering any more.

  7. All industry is deadly by Nick+Ives · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nuclear engineers, most of them, have been supporting a deadly industry which will inevitable harm people.

    That's true of almost every industry you could care to mention. A coal burning power plant will release more radiation every year than a normally operating nuclear plant will in its lifetime.

    Speaking of coal, all the minerals we depend upon for our way of life are provided to us by miners. They do dangerous work deep underground and, no matter how safe we make it, some of them will die. Our entire way of life is built on their blood; our lives are indebted to theirs.

    You might then ask,what the point of industry is then if it's so dangerous and deadly? Well, it builds us a civilisation that is largely free of the constraints of a life built on subsistence agriculture. It's less deadly but still not perfect, just better in some ways.

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    Nick