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China Calls US Culprit In Global 'Internet War'

On Wednesday we discussed news of Google's accusation that sources originating in China were interfering with Gmail using malware and phishing techniques, targeting Chinese political activists, US government officials, military personnel, and others. In response to the accusations, a Chinese official denied government involvement in the attacks, while the US government indicated they would investigate the matter. The attacks were more sophisticated than a typical phishing attempt, they involved Yahoo and Hotmail as well, and they have likely been going on for months. Now, according to a CBS report, "The Chinese military accused the US on Friday of launching a global 'Internet war' to bring down Arab and other governments, redirecting the spotlight away from allegations of major online attacks on Western targets originating in China."

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  1. Hilarious by gubers33 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    China got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and immediately creates a story about the US playing foul on the internet whether it is true or not, the only reason it was released by them is to avoid attention. China is not going to be able to avoid this they have been in the midst of internet controversy for the past few years from Green Dam software (Great Firewall of China) being created from stolen source code, to hacking Google and other countries to this newest event. They need to figure out if you start poking around in someone's backyard who has more advanced systems they are going to find out soon or later.

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    1. Re:Hilarious by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      News and historical revisionism is all part of the CCP's modus operandi. To them, it's one of many tools to control society and socially architect a future generation mindset.

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    2. Re:Hilarious by sl3xd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Extremists on any part of the political spectrum use the same tactic; whether liberal, conservative, or libertarian.

      I reject your reality and substitute my own.

      North Korea lives by this standard...

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    3. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ++

      I can't wait for China to have a PMS moment and create their own internet. My SSH server will thank them. They can take the Koreas with them, as well as the old Russian Federation...

    4. Re:Hilarious by gilbert644 · · Score: 2

      Funniest part is that the Chinese government is so fascist that they don't recognize that claiming American involvement in the overthrow of dictators is actually pro-American.

  2. Re:Wag the... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2

    Both are supreme villains.

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  3. Re:Never a leader by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As it currently stands, China may become the leader of the world, but most certainly it will not be one of freedom.

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  4. But didn't China..... by chrisj_0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Reroute half the internet last year?

  5. China did it. by sethstorm · · Score: 2

    Ok.

    * Various political interests that China wants to kill off are targeted.
    * The US military is targeted.
    * The US government (outside of the military) is targeted.
    * A company that left China out of concerns for it being used as an attack platform was targeted.
    * The rest of the evidence points to China's red hands being all over this.

    The only answer worth giving to the Chinese government: 使''èZï¼

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  6. Re:Safe-Mail.net & Tor = better solution by petteyg359 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because I can use SSL with Gmail, and I trust Google more than I trust some random mail server I've never heard of. Also, safe-mail advertises 3Mb (I seriously hope they're just idiots and are actually offering 3MB, because 375KB isn't going to last long for anybody who actually uses their email account. 3MB isn't going to last long, either.). Gmail currently gives me almost 8GB.

    If I'm really concerned about privacy, I can use one of my many email accounts on my own server. Then again, are you sure that all the intermediary servers your mail goes through are using SSL?

  7. Wait a minute... by bl4nk · · Score: 2

    I've personally been noticing a lot of suspSuí zhe yídòng dào zhèl kàn dào shénme

  8. Business as usual in Beijing: by Hartree · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google traces targeted gmail password trawling attacks to China.

    Reaction?

    The "independent" (and presumably "fair and balanced") Global Times calls Google "snotty nosed". The equally "independent" Xinhua News Agency says that the acusation that China was behind the gmail phishing was "evil intentioned".

    The Chinese military ups the ante and accuses the US of an undeclared cyber war on the whole world.

    In other news, the Reichstag still appears to be vaguely smoldering.

  9. Re:Never a leader by benjfowler · · Score: 2

    The world will be as prejudiced as it likes against tyrants, thieves and murderers.

  10. Re:Wag the... by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's called psychological projection. You will find that the bulk of this mindset makes up a disproportional amount of ideologs. For every conservative that you name, I can name an american liberal. No need to get into a pissing contest here.

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  11. You can always unplug it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hey China, nobody here held a gun to your head and forced you to use the Internet. We invented it for our own use, and thought it would be a good idea for peers to connect worldwide.

    We had a saying during the Cold War: If you don't like the US, you're free to leave. This contrasted our philosophy with that of the Soviet Union, where emmigrating was very difficult.

    Likewise, if you don't like the Internet you're free to create your own local network which is partially what you're doing with your "great firewall". Trouble is, you want it both ways. Sorry. Not our problem. If you can't firewall out everything you don't like then that leaves you with a choice:

    Deal with some things you don't like, or unplug it.

  12. ha by itchythebear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I chuckle every time i read an article like this. Yes, I'm sure the United States is participating in electronic espionage (or whatever you want to call it), but does that surprise anyone? Seriously, is anyone surprised at this, like at all? As a United States citizen i would actually be very upset if my government wasn't doing this. The flip side to this is that I can really not be that upset at China for doing the same thing. So really this is a non story and the only one governments are fooling when they make claims like this are... no one.

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    1. Re:ha by mhesd · · Score: 2

      The real flip side would be that there are hundreds of US right activists political persecuted in the US, emigrated to China and now targeted by the US government or army by phishing attacks. Did you ever heard from at least one of these mysterious activists?

  13. Re:Wag the... by rickb928 · · Score: 2

    "many other dictatorial regimes composed of blowhards, up to and including the modern US Republicans/TeePartiers."

    "Whenever they start accusing someone else of something, assume either (a) they're doing it themselves or (b) they're doing something far worse and trying to draw attention away from it."

    Well played, sir. The irony is deafening...

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  14. Pay attention to what they say by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

    They say "the Government of China did not have anything to do with the attacks".

    They do NOT say "the Chinese Army had nothing to do with the attacks".

    It's all in the details and the saving of face.

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  15. Everyone's doing it, just own up to it by fa8os · · Score: 2

    China's just the sucker that gets caught doing it. They're after all sorts of targets, government or otherwise. I had them ruin my. Xmas holiday when they tried unsuccessfully to send 10G DDoS attacks across the wire. Just protect your stuff, because there are a lot of people out the with a lot of motivation to either get your IP, money, are just try to shut you down. China's just one of many. If you have any sort of online presence you are a potential target.

  16. Re:Ban the republican party by Dainsanefh · · Score: 2

    Sieg Heil! LOLOLOL!

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