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Man Ordered At Gunpoint To Hand Over Phone For Recording Cops
HungryHobo writes with this excerpt from a story at Pixiq:
"Miami Beach police did their best to destroy a citizen video that shows them shooting a man to death in a hail of bullets on Memorial Day. First, police pointed their guns at the man who shot the video, according to a Miami Herald interview with the videographer. Then they ordered the man and his girlfriend out of the car and threw them down to the ground, yelling, 'you want to be f****** paparazzi?' Then they snatched the cell phone from his hand and slammed it to the ground before stomping on it. Then they placed the smashed phone in the videographer's back pocket as he was laying down on the ground."
I guess it used to be ok when they only did this kind of thing to black people....
But now they've started doing it to people like you, its a whole different matter isn't it.
I think everyone needs to take this as a reminder about supporting the fundamental liberties (not necessarily all the bleeding-heart ones) of everyone, including those groups that you don't belong to.
Have you ever been in a high adrenaline situation that ended in you shooting and killing someone? Have you ever voluntarily ended someones life? Have you had someone film you whilst you do this? Unless the answer to all of the above is "yes", how about you keep your damning judgements to yourself. These police put their lives on the line for your protection every single day, and it's not our place to pass judgement on their behaviour. That's for disciplinary hearings. Also, phrases like "in a hail of bullets" stink of tabloid reporting and have no place on a serious news post. Dissapointing.
What do you have to hide that you fear that statement?
It's against the law for the police to do what they did. You can't make it more against the law such that they won't do it. You would have to take away their physical ability to do it, and if you do that, then they're not police, they're girl scouts.
Seriously, think before you go castrating the public's protective services just because you want to be a dick to a cop and not get punched. Because if you actually make it impossible for him to punch you, you also make it really easy for the crook he's unable to chase to punch you.
Wrong. The guy was violating privacy laws. He got what was coming to him.
Why does everyone have to bring up the Constitution in cases like this?? Please show me where in the constitution is says anything about recording police behavior, let alone cell phone cameras.
Not that I don't agree that the whole thing is disgusting and I hope the police get everything they deserve (though I doubt it). But this is a case of assault, destruction of property, harrassment, wrongful arrest - and possibly excessive use of force on both the witnesses and the victim. But these are just common crimes committed by criminals (yes, cops can be criminals, too), not "Constitutional violations". When you overuse it like that, it starts to lose meaning...
Because they are too busy crapping their pants when reality occurs around them and they realize that their manhood enhancement attempts do nothing to help anyone.
That aside, you can really depend on fascist state to behave, well, like a fascists.
It's what happens when government grows too big and powerful. It's happened every single time throughout the history of national governments whenever they grow too big. It has absolutely no relation to which political party is in control. It's because of human nature and how humans behave when in large, powerful groups.
So, who's in favor of government spending more money (getting larger) again? Anyone willing for the government to become smaller, less-powerful, and less expensive in exchange for less arrogance and tyranny from those who work for us?
Is anyone willing to *personally* take a good working-over by government thugs in exchange for another social program? *Someone* is going to get one. Likely many "someones". If you're not willing to take one, then why are you "volunteering" someone else to take one for something *you* want??
Every time people want the government to do yet another thing, add yet another program, department, administration, taskforce, panel, bureau, etc...whenever the government is given control of more wealth and power to legislate & regulate...that's the same as saying they want more of this crap like this videographer received, and other types of injustice from the government. It's what has always happened. You can see it happening now.
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Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
Bearing arms almost never defends any rights. It's almost always used to violate people's rights, except when shooting animals or targets and no rights other than the self-referential are at issue.
You gun fetishists watched Bush/Cheney shit on our Constitution for 8 solid years, and never used your guns to defend it. You proved that's just a load of macho BS. You showed that the delusion that guns defend our rights should be retired except as a fairy tale for demented children.
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Code Pink?
Yes, Code Pink. Code Pink has been neck-deep in the Middle East wanting, apparently, to finish what the Nazis started with the Holocaust. How tolerant and "Progressive" of them.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/ayers-dohrn-helped-organize-flotilla-group
Former Weather Underground leaders William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, as well as Code Pink founder Jodie Evans, helped organize the Free Gaza Movement, which launched the six-ship flotilla from Turkey to Israel that ended in a violent clash with Israeli Defense Forces, BigGovernment.com reported.
In January, the trio were spotted in Egypt attempting to stir up crowds on the streets with 1,400 other left-wing activists after the Egyptian government refused to allow Free Gaza Movement members to enter the Gaza Strip. About 100 marchers were eventually allowed to cross the border, where they were met by former Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniyeh.
Now, go back to sleep Doc, and dream about your perfect socialist nirvana that will never, ever be.
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
He's not a Republican, just your run-of-the-mill retard.
Yes I know there can be some overlap, but I don't know many (any?) Republicans who actually believe the grandparent's nonsense.
And, just like in those times, there were people who thought that the problem was not enough government power/control/wealth rather than too much, and who ridiculed, ostracized, and virulently opposed those who realized that government was the problem, not the solution. Those kinds of people came to be known as "useful idiots" thanks to Kruschev and the 20th century struggle against Marxism.
Thanks for proving my point. Although, in your case, there's very little "useful" to your idiocy.
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Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
Yes because how dare they bring medical supplies and food
Please see my other post where I explained the term "useful idiot". If you actually believe that's the true purpose, then please avoid passing on your genes to the pool.
They could bring in those supplies without the so-called "flotilla". Medical and other humanitarian supplies can be transported freely into Gaza and the West Bank by land. The Israelis would probably even provide the trucks.
It's nothing but a naked attempt to force an incident resulting in violence for propaganda to be used in helping to turn the world against Israel and paint them as "oppressors". These flotilla people and all their fellow-travelers are just using the poor Palestinians. If they weren't a great tool for anti-Israeli propaganda and terrorist attacks, none of these groups and people would give a crap about them at all.
Heck, why should they? The Palestinians' own Arab "brothers" in Egypt & Syria had many decades in which they could have given them land in what eventually became Israel. Funny how these same countries and people didn't give a crap about Palestinians until they became a useful tool against Israel after 1948.
It's the same old "kill the Jews!" hatred from WW2 Germany that horrified & sickened the world, and caused us all to swear; "Never again!".
Yet, here we are again, and supposedly educated and sophisticated people, those who consider themselves oh-so compassionate, are silent or active "me-too's"...perfectly fine with going along with the bigotry, hatred, and the re-emergence of the cause behind the worst of the horrors of WW2.
I wasn't aware that the Final Solution was back in fashion among Liberal/Progressives. Silly me, I thought from all the T-shirts that Liberal/Progressives were still doing the "Mao", "Chavez", and "Che Guevara" Communist/Murdering Thug thing.
I guess the Left just loves the smell of Jewish genocide in the morning.
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Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.