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Tennessee Bans Posting 'Offensive' Images Online

Chaonici writes "Last Monday, Tennessee's Governer Bill Haslam signed a law prohibiting the transmission or display of an image that is likely to 'frighten, intimidate or cause emotional distress to' anyone who sees it. In Tennessee, it is already illegal to use other methods of communication, such as telephones or e-mail, to offend someone; the new law updates legislation to include images sent or posted online. However, the scope of this law is broader, in that anyone who sees the image is a potential victim. If a court finds that a violator should have known that someone would be offended by the image in question, they face up to a year in prison or up to $2,500 in fines."

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  1. Someone got a picture of the law? by MrHanky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure it would offend most people on here. Ironic that a law text should be able to break itself.

    1. Re:Someone got a picture of the law? by sqldr · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was gonna draw a picture of someone ramming a bottle of Tennesee Jack Daniels up Ghandi's arse while he urinates on Mohammad's face as he rides a half-cow-half-jesus into a hindu shrine whilst dressed as Hitler, but I don't think I'm that good at drawing.

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    2. Re:Someone got a picture of the law? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google search. It's probably been done.

    3. Re:Someone got a picture of the law? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Governor, I find your face offensive

  2. How about newspapers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does this law apply to online news sources as well? That would make it *very* difficult to report on the new in an unbiased fashion, since almost all news nowadays is sure to emotionally offend someone. Not that unbiased news reporting happens a lot these days.

    1. Re:How about newspapers? by BigSlowTarget · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The newspapers will probably not be prosecuted unless they attack the DA or other political figures.

    2. Re:How about newspapers? by canajin56 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The law requires that the image be intended to cause harm, and have absolutely no other purpose whatsoever at all. Newspapers are safe unless they start publishing pictures for no other purpose than to intimidate or threaten people (Oh, did you think the law said offend? that was made up by Ars Technica to get you offended!)

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    3. Re:How about newspapers? by causality · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The law requires that the image be intended to cause harm, and have absolutely no other purpose whatsoever at all. Newspapers are safe unless they start publishing pictures for no other purpose than to intimidate or threaten people (Oh, did you think the law said offend? that was made up by Ars Technica to get you offended!)

      It's already illegal to threaten people. What does this law proscribe that was not already covered by existing laws?

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  3. I'm getting so tired by milbournosphere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    of this crap. These 'offensive' communications laws have been in place for decades, over radio, TV, and now the web. At what point is the government going to realize that just as with every other communication media, if one doesn't want to see/hear/view it, one simply needs to change the channel, click the back button, or (heaven forbid) turn the device off and go outside? Leave our radios, television sets and internet alone. I swear, if I hear 'think of the children' as justification for this crap one more time...

    1. Re:I'm getting so tired by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Funny

      never been to a break point before

      I've been to a breakpoint before. If you don't want to see what's in there, you just step over it rather than stepping into it.

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    2. Re:I'm getting so tired by Khyber · · Score: 2

      The only people that like to scream "Think of the Children" are pedophiles.

      Real families and parents actually raise their child.

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    3. Re:I'm getting so tired by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 3

      of this crap. These 'offensive' communications laws have been in place for decades, over radio, TV, and now the web.

      TV and radio are much different, because they go over the air.

      Theoretically, I could censor all the radio stations in my town. If they have programs that use offensive language, I can just broadcast my own signal, louder than theirs, blocking out what I find offensive.

      Radio stations did not like vigilantes censoring them, and the result of this was the FCC. The FCC says that such malicious interference is illegal. As a compromise, though, they required all broadcasting stations to abide by basic standards. Sure, the constitution lets you say anything you like, but if you want the FCC to protect you from your neighbour's interference, then you have to abide by a certain amount of standards. Violating the decency standards of the FCC doesn't make you a criminal, you simply lose the license that was granted for your radio station.

      As far as I can tell, there is no equivalence with the web. FCC broadcast licenses are not required for posting to forums. Tennessee is clearly making this a criminal issue. I can't understand how it even got to the governor's desk, but I know for a fact that it will crumble the first time it goes to the courts.

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  4. Ok.... by ArcadeNut · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So if someone sends me an Image of the bill being signed into law, can I have the Governor locked up? If I lived there, I could argue that the bill intimidates me and causes emotional distress since I don't know if I'll be going to jail because someone found something I sent "offensive".

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  5. TN lawmakers find THIS image totally innocent by davidwr · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm sure some in the Tennessee leg finds this image NOT offensive in the least - they'd like to see more of it!

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  6. Free speech by losttoy · · Score: 5, Funny

    hey Tennessee, Saudi Arabia called. They want their right to suppress free speech back.

  7. Holiday Fun! by AioKits · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, can't wait for this come the winter seasons. Nativity scene on the front lawn of a government property should do just nicely. It would probably fall under at least one of the 'frighten, intimidate or cause emotional distress to' requirements for someone out there. What good is creating a poorly worded cudgel if everyone doesn't get a turn at using it? Heheee.

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    1. Re:Holiday Fun! by rrohbeck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even worse, what about all the images of a half naked man nailed to a cross? That scared me as a kid and I'm sure will scare many today. Those pictures (and their abstraction, only the cross) have to go.

  8. You have no right to not be offended by spidercoz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It will happen, it's part of life. How you deal with it is what matters. You can either be an adult, suck it up, and move on, or you can be a little crybaby bitch and turn it into a huge legal stink costing taxpayers money.

    This is one of those bullshit laws that lawyers love. It doesn't even matter if they win a case on it, they still make off like bandits. How the hell they can even pretend to legislate something as completely subjective as "offense" is beyond me. If there were any real justice this would have been struck down as unconstitutional the moment it became law.

    Good job, Tennessee, once again you've made the whole country look like a bunch of backward illiterate morons.

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    1. Re:You have no right to not be offended by txghia58 · · Score: 2

      So my grand father was a fire and brimstone southern baptist preacher. Most of his sermons were intended to frighten people of going to hell. So in this day and age he would have been breaking the law. The movie Reefer Madness was intended to scare people of the evils of marijuana. etc.... etc.....

  9. whaaaat.... by itchythebear · · Score: 2

    I know a lot of people who are frightened of clowns, or spiders, or dogs, or women, or men, or.......

    Or how bout emotional distress?? what if you post a picture with your new boyfriend/girlfriend, your ex sees that and that causes emotional distress. You could face a fine or go to jail for that?

    No worries though, I'm sure this will only apply to things that frighten, intimidate or cause emotional distress to a small select group of people...

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  10. On the plus side by Noah69 · · Score: 2

    It would mean the end of 4chan

    1. Re:On the plus side by spidercoz · · Score: 2

      dude, regardless of what you personally think about it, you should be glad 4chan is there

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    2. Re:On the plus side by Toonol · · Score: 2

      Funny that you're the one posting anonymously, and the 4chan defender isn't. Funny that you're the one with over-the-top vitriol on a forum, partly fueled by your anonymity, and the 4chan defender was civil.

      You're just a mess of contradictions, anon.

  11. So a female not wearing a Burka is offensive. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And a female wearing a Burka is offensive to others.

    Do they think through these laws?

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    1. Re:So a female not wearing a Burka is offensive. by mugurel · · Score: 2

      So a female not wearing a Burka is offensive. And a female wearing a Burka is offensive to others.

      So by logical inference, females are offensive, and thus, by the proposed law, it is not allowed to post images of females online... Tennessee is undermining the very concept of the internet!

  12. Re:I am not in Tennessee. by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 2

    In before someone posts Goatse.

    Too late...

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  13. Re:I am not in Tennessee. by DrBoumBoum · · Score: 2

    I am offended. Please go directly to jail.

  14. Re:Hollywood by idontgno · · Score: 2

    Don't get too comfortable. My first lawsuit will be over Bambi. Do you know how offended I was when Bambi's mommy got shot? If you're a Disney shareholder, you will find out.

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  15. Re:Let the lawsuits begin by Technician · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hmm, how far does that jurisdiction reach? Does it include links? Does it include out of the country? They should have fun with the sudden influx of goat links. Good luck with that.

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  16. Here's who decides by BigSlowTarget · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The only people who get to decide what's offensive are the prosecutor or DA (who brings charges) and the jury (if there is one). What you find offensive simply doesn't matter because it will not be brought up in the courtroom.

    In reality this will be a handy way of imposing legal costs, fines and jail time on anyone the DA doesn't like or who offends people with influence in that department.

  17. Re:Constitution by afidel · · Score: 2

    Duh, this will get slapped down harder than COPA, it has no chance of passing constitutional muster.

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  18. No more Sarah Palin? by Relayman · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean I can move to Tennessee and be guaranteed of never seeing Sarah Palin's picture again?

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  19. Can we impeach them? by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 2

    > Exactly. This law is going to exist until someone, anyone, brings it to trial for any reason. Any judge is going to take one look at this and strike it down.

    Yes.

    Did the people who voted for or signed the law ever take an oath to protect, preserve, or defend a Constitution including freedom of speech?

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  20. Re:...really? by sarysa · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe not the Supreme Court, but how many tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees would it take to get that far? All for a $2500 fine?

    Looks like Tennessee has a strong extortion racket going, so long as they don't get greedy and go after rotten.com or something.

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  21. Oaths by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did the people who voted for or signed the law ever take an oath to protect, preserve, or defend a Constitution including freedom of speech?

    Sure they did. As did all members of congress, the executive, and the judiciary. You'll note how well *that* worked.

    An oath without enforcement and punishment is utterly worthless unless the oath-giver has profoundly well established ethics that include the concept of personal honor in their foundation.

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  22. I'm so confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    They say offensive images. Wait... does that mean this text is legal:

    What do you call a nigger with a stutter? A cocoon!

    But if you took a screenshot of it and re-posted it, you'd be breaking the law?

    Just askin'.

    Mature adults can get past the crude joke and appreciate the question I am asking. The rest of you will get your panties in a wad over it and should probably consider moving to Tennessee, where the good benevolent government will support your desire to control what other people say, post, and laugh at, I mean um support the fact you got "offended" at something.

    If some state has the balls to pass a law stating that "anyone person over the age of 18 who gets offended at what another person says, writes, or depicts and complains about it shall be guilty of a misdemeanor" then I am packing up my bags and moving THAT DAY. Can't we just have one place that doesn't validate the crybabies and tells them to get over it? Just one? The bleeding heart gutless pansies who want to live in a G-rated fantasy land can have the other 49. They outnumber the adults anyway.

    1. Re:I'm so confused by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      i suspect this is just an extension of the purposely harassing someone laws that got royally screwed up in the process. they are designed to stop intimidation and harassment of someone specific by someone specific.

      An example of this is where someone's father has passed on and a person who is upset with them for any reason, decides to send pictures of him dead with captions drawn on it saying something I'm glad or something similar. It's to stop someone from calling up repeatedly and saying congratulations on losing your job, your house, your car, I'm gonna fuck your daughter and steal your wife.

      The ability of someone to do that can be debated, but the intentions would be pure malice and some people think the government has the ability to stop some of that by laws with penalties much the same way they do with laws against physical violence.

      Don't delude yourself into thinking something like this law was supposed to cleans the intertubes for the fine citizens of that state. It's more to do with crap like this

      http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/family-gets-go-ahead-to-sue-chp-over-release-of-grisly-crash-photos.html

    2. Re:I'm so confused by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2

      Words and images! How terrible. Better ban the ones that offend certain people immediately and label them as "harassment" while pretending that they aren't speech.

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    3. Re:I'm so confused by Bobartig · · Score: 2

      The statute language is inclusive of any "communication," so you do not need to re-package as an image. Your post is sufficient under the text of the law.

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    4. Re:I'm so confused by spauldo · · Score: 3, Funny

      That text isn't offensive in Tennessee. Try changing it to something like, "those white women just love that black cock".

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    5. Re:I'm so confused by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget this is also the state where they passed a "don't say gay" bill, like not saying the word will magically make gay teens straight. Pretty sad considering all the press about that 13 year old who committed suicide over being bullied for being gay. I did enjoy Star Trek's George Takei and his take on it, if you haven't seen it his advice is to just say Takei. I think I may buy one of the shirts the rainbow Star trek logo is kinda cute.

      As someone who live in AR allow me to say, keep it up TN! You may us look less backward all the time! While you are passing crazy laws like this and the don't say gay bill we've gotten too large and very nice gay communities in our two largest cities, we have a nice symphony and plays in the park, if you haven't come down it is actually quite nice here now. So keep it up TN, you make us look better every day. And Go Hogs!

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    6. Re:I'm so confused by losthought · · Score: 2

      I'd mod you up to 6 if I had mod points and it were possible.

      I am a Tennessee resident and also IANAL. I was about to get all up-in-arms and send an angry email off to Gov. Haslam's office when I read this story but, fortunately, I decided to actually read up on what this "new" law is. It is, indeed, an update to the Harassment laws on the books for TN. This law covers directed communication with a malicious intent. Simply re-posting goatse images on your blog does not put you in violation of this law. Re-posting goatse images with an attached threat to a specific individual or group probably would, though.

      Should harassment be protected free speech?

  23. Re:I am not in Tennessee. by easyTree · · Score: 2

    I'm offended that you're offended. I'll see you in jail.

  24. Re:...really? by causality · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe not the Supreme Court, but how many tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees would it take to get that far? All for a $2500 fine?

    Looks like Tennessee has a strong extortion racket going, so long as they don't get greedy and go after rotten.com or something.

    That's why any citizen who wants to hire an attorney should automatically have standing to challenge the Constitutionality of any law.

    Here's my logic. All citizens are expected to know and obey all laws that apply to their jurisdiction. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Since the law applies to all, and all are expected to obey it, all should have standing to challenge it. Why should someone need to be convicted under the law before they even have a chance to do that, when compliance to a bad law also has a cost and is also a type of damage?

    These politicians value an imaginary right not found in the Constitution, namely the "right to never be offended", more than they value an enumerated natural right that is plainly protected by the Constitution. Bear in mind that the overwhelming plurality of politicians are lawyers -- it is not like they don't understand what the Constitution says. It's not like you would need to be a lawyer to understand the First Amendment. It's more like they know they can do this with impunity, so what's their incentive to honor their oath of office and the highest law of the land?

    I'd love to see jail time for politicians who support this bullshit, no matter what other downside to that there may be. If that means politicians spend a great deal of their time trying to jail each other, that's fine with me -- there's more where those came from, time they spend doing that is time they can't spend doing damage to the People, and that would provide incentive for passing only laws that are obviously Constitutional. When I say jail time, I'm not talking a nice cushy vacation getaway type of prison either, I'm talking count them among the general inmate population and see how well they fare.

    It's unjust that a few politicians can make millions suffer due to their idiocy, and when the law is finally defeated after great personal cost, financial cost, and possibly years of time, there is no penalty for the legislators who voted for it. This needs to be changed and they need to be reminded that they are our servants, not our masters. I've never heard of a single nation in history which had a legally "untouchable" ruling class that gave a damn about freedom and prosperity. I doubt we're going to be the first.

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  25. With apologies to Chandler Bing by chargersfan420 · · Score: 2

    "Yes, I was really sad too, when the artist stopped drawing the deer."

  26. Politcal exemption? by sgunhouse · · Score: 2

    You realize that this law would effect any of those right-to-life groups posting images of fetuses, as well as those animal rights groups and so on. I mean, their whole intent is to offend the common person to supporting their view.

    Note that the law does say "everyone", not "anyone". It's not enough to offend Aunt Millie, you also have to offend the toughest biker, butcher (as in, meat processing), etc. Okay, maybe those baby seal pictures wouldn't offend the butcher, and the fetuses wouldn't offend abortion practitioners, so perhaps it's harder than I thought. Then again, they can't literally interview everyone, so maybe "the common person" will suffice.

    Mind you, I would include anyone who posts that picture of Congressman Weiner - that ought to offend everyone.

  27. Re:Real Q: Const. covers feds; what of state laws? by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 2

    I've heard lots about how the Constitution constrains federal law (when it's actually being respected...). But after growing up in the US and paying attention more than many seem to, I confess I'm still quite ignorant about how the Constitution affects lawmaking at the state level -- though I suspect the answer is "not much".

    See Incorporation Doctrine.

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  28. Re:Abortion zealots will be a nice target. by losfromla · · Score: 2

    It's my opinion that the egg-sperm combination becomes a human at some point between conception and emergence from the womb. I don't think it is when the cells start to divide and become 4, or 8, or 16, or even 1024. I think it happens sometime around when the brain actually begins to function. I think that if one goes in with the position that you hold, one will never arrive at a solution. At the other end of the spectrum from you is the abortion happy guy who thinks that it's cool to shove a pair of scissors into the skull as long as the child has not exited the vagina. I think both you and him are wrong (him, criminally so, in my opinion) but, I think that if you ante'd up with a more reasonable number, and so did your opposite twin, we'd be more likely to arrive at a reasonable meeting point regarding a cut-off time-frame for abortions.

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  29. Offensive is in the eye of the beholder by woboyle · · Score: 2

    "If thine eye offends thee, pluck it out"...

    Most billboards offend me and cause me undue emotional distress. Ditto religious displays, pictures of cops beating people, and politicians giving speeches. The first time I saw Ronald Reagan on TV as the replacement announcer for Death Valley Days after the old ranger quit/died, I got nauseated, and blurted out (I was 5 or 6 at the time) "I don't trust that guy!", and never watched the show again. So, according to Tennessee law, pictures of Ronald Reagan should be banned...

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