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Russian Lie Detector ATM
smitty777 writes "Apparently the Russians are starting to add lie detectors to their ATMs in an attempt to prevent identity theft and bad withdraws. 'Consumers with no previous relationship with the bank could talk to the machine to apply for a credit card, with no human intervention required on the bank’s end. The machine scans a passport, records fingerprints and takes a three-dimensional scan for facial recognition. And it uses voice-analysis software to help assess whether the person is truthfully answering questions that include “Are you employed?” and “At this moment, do you have any other outstanding loans?”'"
Sberbank has some of the most advanced ATMs in the world now and it's mostly because of the extremely long ques. They're really advanced now, you can pay all sorts of bills from almost any company at them, gas bills, phone, internet, mobile, water, heating, taxes, etc, if for example you have a gas bill it will scan the barcode and then you just insert the money so it's connected to the billing systems of most major utility/service providers.
The main reason for these new lie detector tests is Russian people predominantly being drunk liars (but not as bad as chechens who will murder you for no reason at all) are more likely to end up dead or to take the money and dissapear off the map and it's hard to track down every worthless moron, especially when doing so may cost more than the loan is worth and it's also very likely that the money is gone and they have no assets to seize.
Sure they are. It's only corruptible if you flip the right switch underneath it. And it's reliably corrupt when you do.
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But the software told them the salesmen weren't lying!
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
If I was ever in the position where I was required to submit to a polygraph, and I don't mean this situation at a bank machine, I would gladly comply as long as I was able to add a single question as the first one:
Can this machine tell if I am lying?
Polygraph machines are not lie detectors. What they are are stress detectors. And if you know that little fact you need not be stressed when you are dealing with one. Here is a summary of a polygraph machine's reliability: here.
Shh.
No, you have to keep a minimum alcohol level in your system when you're russian and it's dangerous to go bellow a certain level.
Here's a citation to back up the parent's claim that "voice recognition of lies doesn't work at all". Language Log: Speech-based lie detection in Russia
Actually, no. Voice recognition works fairly OK with Russian language.
For instance, I'm using it on my phone to do voice search. The last search was "The Sword of Damocles" (I wanted to read the legend which gave rise to this expression), it's pronounced "Damoclov mech" in Russian and Google understood it just fine. Try that in English now - it just doesn't work.
I can also use voice recognition to dictate large texts. Good recognition engine produces near perfect output.
That's what you get if you use a language with non-crazy spelling. Additionally, grammar cases in Russian seem to work as error correction codes.
Voice-based lie detection, though, definitely does not work.
Psychopaths have zero fear or stress when they tell a lie. (They are otherwise rather fearless - but I won't go into details now.) These ATM machines are wide open for them to pick them apart.
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While those ATMs are getting more and more sophisticated at detecting who WE are, us users are still often in doubt about the "identity" of the MACHINE. "Is it really the bank we are interacting with, or is it a skimming machine (or both)?"
If Pandora's box is destined to be opened, *I* want to be the one to open it.
Application rejected: you are Guy Fawkes.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
Maybe it's just an "um" detector.
ATM: "Do you have liens against your property, unpaid bills or any other credit problems?"
Dumbass: "Um...uh...err, no?!"
ATM: "DENIED!"
I think it'd work at least as well as a polygraph machine.