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Comcast Offering Home Security Bundle

vaporland writes "Bloomberg reports that media giant Comcast has begun offering home security bundles with cable or phone service in selected markets. From the article: 'The Philadelphia-based company is starting Xfinity Home Security in seven markets for $39.95 a month. It lets users remotely adjust lights and thermostats, watch cameras, and get e-mail or text alerts when doors and windows are opened and closed. Customers can watch live video of their homes on an Xfinity website or with an Apple Inc. iPad application.'"

102 comments

  1. This just in: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comcast offers new, unnecessary product at exorbitant rates.

    1. Re:This just in: by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      Well, if when you buy things from Comcast you get the privilege of paying twice what people in other markets pay for comparable products.

    2. Re:This just in: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Kaspersky is not home security, moron.

    3. Re:This just in: by jhoegl · · Score: 1

      You get to pay for their terrible service and fund their acquisitions in their attempt to take over the world.
      OMG, Comcast is pinky and the brain!

    4. Re:This just in: by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was scratching my head on that. Kaspersky? Home Security? Nahhhh - but maybe I should google it?

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    5. Re:This just in: by Inner_Child · · Score: 1

      Comcast offers new, unnecessary product at exorbitant rates.

      And you just know every bit of that service will count against their cap.

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    6. Re:This just in: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      his name is jay

    7. Re:This just in: by Hylandr · · Score: 2

      RTFA FTW.

      I can already do all these things Comcast is trying to sell, and it didn't take much for the customers employee's to destroy it all and go back to robbing the employer blind.

      I can only imagine the fun consumers will have with this. Or the free tap Comcast may be giving the Govt...

      - Dan.

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  2. Convergance by Bananatree3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Convergence: When your home automation, grid power, security, telephone, TV, internet and wireless companies are all owned by the same conglomerate

    1. Re:Convergance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When fanboyism goes way too far...

    2. Re:Convergance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corporate America is way behind the times. We basically already had all of that in the 1950s, back when I was growing up in the Soviet Union.

    3. Re:Convergance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's totally different! You had central planning, where one government official who doesn't care if you get your toilet paper or not made all the decisions. This is capitalism, where one executive makes all the decisions, and if he makes bad choices, he gets paid millions of dollars in bonuses and bails out.

      Clearly the guy being paid bonuses whether he screws up or not will make better decisions than some government flunky.

    4. Re:Convergance by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1
      When your home automation, grid power, security, telephone, TV, internet and wireless companies are all owned by the same conglomerate

      .
      And that conglomerate has one of the worst customer service records of any corporation in America. It sounds like the making of a success story to me.

  3. Linking physical security to the Intertubes? by zonky · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What could possibily go wrong!

    1. Re:Linking physical security to the Intertubes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing. I know a few people who has this setup and have talk to the guy who setup steve job's system. It's a very secure system but like anything it's not like it's impossible to crack. Just so far, hasn't happened from what I've heard. Comcast is losing business because not many people want their tv / phone services these days since the internet does all that so they have to find a new market or two to replace them.

  4. Not just Comcast by JavadeHut · · Score: 2

    Rogers, Canada's largest telecom, also started offering a similar service a few weeks ago.

    1. Re:Not just Comcast by compro01 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sasktel over here in Saskatchewan has offered this for years.

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  5. Pay for your own survailence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will we have to buy the bullets they shoot us with too?

  6. Uplinks by zigmeister · · Score: 2

    Well maybe they'll finally start providing some decent upstream bandwidth then. Who woulda thunk it.

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    1. Re:Uplinks by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If this is anything like their quasi-VOIP offering a while back, they'll specifically run all their blessed-and-packaged stuff over a separate logical link(and no, the existence of that link on the same physical line in no way implies that we could remove it and offer better upstream bandwidth. Shut up, consumer, and watch some pay-per-view.) and call it a feature.

    2. Re:Uplinks by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      no, they will just lower the cap so you will get to pay more due to overage.

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    3. Re:Uplinks by westlake · · Score: 2

      they'll specifically run all their blessed-and-packaged stuff over a separate logical link

      But isn't this what you want in a home security product?

    4. Re:Uplinks by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes and no. Obviously, you don't want video feeds of your house going over the public internet in the clear; but(since part of the service does involve accessing them over the internet from an offsite location), Comcast already has to have a secure-over-public internet approach sorted out(presumably just TLS). Also, since Comcast is the one running the setup, it is presumably the case that the route taken over the public internet would just be a hop from you directly to them anyway(since Comcast is both the ISP, and thus the closest thing on the network, and the one operating the server side of this service). Unless they really were to fuck it up, which would likely imperil the storage, or login page, or video streaming capabilities, you wouldn't get usefully greater security.

      Since the two logical links(Comcast qua ISP, and whatever in-house Comcast services you are subscribed to) travel over the same line and assorted hardware, reliability is unlikely to be better over one than over the other, and having Comcast able to carve out swaths of untouchable bandwidth for its own services really just makes product bundling and squelching internet-based competitors easier and more tempting.

      For non-technical users, the partition probably does have the virtue of providing a crude form of QoS; but the overall market effect of it is hard to be optimistic about.

    5. Re:Uplinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But remember, unlike DSL where the line.runs to the calamity, on cable you're on the same loop as all your neighbors,

    6. Re:Uplinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why do you assume that they would provide you more upstream bandwidth thn their competitors for free?

      also, why on earth would you ever think there's some kind of scarcity of cable bandwidth?

    7. Re:Uplinks by zigmeister · · Score: 1

      Ya I wouldn't be too optimistic about upstream bandwidth or any other decent service from them until they get some competition. For what it's worth, my cable provider is pretty darn good in all respects except one: upstream bandwidth. I get a decent price, fast down speed, high reliability so far, quick resolution when it does go down, and they even showed up on time to install it. But VNC or RDP into the home box from the lab is painful. Ah well, good things take time right?

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    8. Re:Uplinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they _will_ fuck it up. it is not a question of if, it is a question of how soon.

      comcast cares to add features, not to fix bugs.

    9. Re:Uplinks by swalve · · Score: 1

      1- I just LOVE autocorrect mistakes. Usually iphone users...

      2- I'd rather share a firehose than have my own drinking straw. The gross capacity of a coax cable is roughly 4.1 gbps (38 mbps times 110 channels). DSL is what, 4 mbps, tops, unless you are living out back of the "calamity" facility?

    10. Re:Uplinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point being made is that everyone else on your loop can take a peek if they really wanted to. At least I think that's what they were getting at.

      ~ different AC

  7. Umm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    " Customers can watch live video of their homes on an Xfinity website "

    And what makes anyone think Comcast won't be doing the same whenever they want?

  8. Some people are so stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now they can watch you in your own home....genius.

    1. Re:Some people are so stupid by Aeros · · Score: 1

      Especially when you happen to piss off one of the 'customer service' people on a call. They and their co-workers will just tap in and try to find some good video of you and your family.

  9. Centralized Burglary Map by MBCook · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So now, someone can break into Comcast and easily see which houses have good stuff and don't have anyone at home. That must be very handy for thieves.

    As a customer, I already don't trust Comcast and think they cost too much. Why would I pay them $40 a month for this? Especially since it would take away from my internet bandwidth?

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    1. Re:Centralized Burglary Map by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can trust Comcast, they use RSA SecureID fobs. Oh wait?

    2. Re:Centralized Burglary Map by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      I don't think it would take away from your Internet bandwidth - when you're not watching it, there is no data to be streamed. And when you're watching you're normally away from home so no problem there.

      Anyway, while I basically like the idea to keep an eye on your property from afar, the one thing I'd be most worried about is the security of the system itself. How to make sure that only authorised people can access the cameras, and no-one else, not even Comcast staff?

      Having this over a centralised system makes it a nice target for criminals: one hack, and you're looking at thousands of homes. And it appears to be a centralised system as they're talking about watching it from a certain web site. I really wonder how they're going to do authentication (two-factor or just a password?), and how they can prevent any unauthorised persons to access the video and other information about a home.

  10. Text Alerts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You guys still paying for incoming texts over there?

    Incidentally, being notified of someone breaking into one's home or watching a live stream of the same hardly seems like security to me.

  11. Nice internet connection there. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'd be a shame if something happened to it...

  12. The real added value: by aix+tom · · Score: 5, Funny

    You get relevant targeted advertisements from consumer electronics companies right after you stereo gets stolen.

    1. Re:The real added value: by k3vlar · · Score: 1

      I can see it now: You're watching the video feed, and you see that your TV is missing (it was stolen! OH NO!). Moments later, the space where your TV was is filled with the ghostly image of a Samsung® 60" LED TV with Quatron® Technology using augmented reality. Clicking the image charges the TV to your Comcast account (along with a Comcast convenience fee), and instructs the installers where to hook it up. It also orders you a Comcast cable box, and monthly service to go with it.

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    2. Re:The real added value: by Phyridean · · Score: 1

      While I agree that your post is hilarious, it might not be all that far off. I can certainly see Comcast running some sort of automated image-detection algorithm (or outsourced Indian Manual image-detection algorithm) on the feeds, and targeting ads on their highjacked DNS pages to what would become an *extensive* database of your brand tastes.

    3. Re:The real added value: by Seumas · · Score: 2

      Or you get an email from GoodVibrations that says "Hi, we noticed your bottle of lube is about to run out. Please click the instant-order button below, to be taken to our website and purchase a fresh bottle.!"

  13. added equipment like needed low on Sensors / keypa by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://www.comcast.com/homesecurity/iControlSMA/index.htm Only Window/Door Sensors (4) Motion Detector (1) Wireless Keypad (1) Keychain Remote (1) Touch Screen (1) Cellular and Battery Backup Included what will more Sensors cost $0.25 /m each? Motion Detectors at $2 /m? added keypad $5-$10 /m? added Keychain Remote $3 /m see how much they bill you rent the cable box + they also bill you to rent the remote as well. That cost can go up fast. Also is there a Cellular modem rent fee like how you have to rent the emta that is not part of listed price.

  14. Quite. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, people have no scruples about advertising their location by way of Facebook, Foursquare and twatting every time they leave their house. The masses simply don't care. Can't say I care too much, either. There are easier ways to figure out if someone is home or not, honestly.

    But I wouldn't use this service, for your ultimate reason - it'd be taking away from my bandwidth. Sorry, Comcast - ditch your cap, or at least stop ejaculating about unlimited (they were still trying that line when I was reduced to using Comcast, at least) - and maybe we'll talk. ...Probably not though, because I'm pretty sure that with a trip to Fry's and a lazy Sunday, I could have a much better system in place for myself.

  15. Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They can't even bill me correctly for their crummy internet and their web account services site is a joke. I can just imagine the lights flickering wildly or the thermostat perpetually resetting itself to 50 degrees Fahrenheit during the summer. And then, "Sorry, the soonest the technician can be there is in two weeks."

  16. get interactive by hercubus · · Score: 3, Funny
    • 1) find out which Comcast execs use their own service
    • 2) hack in with malice aforethought
    • 3) ???
    • 4) profit!

    Comcast Exec: [logs into service] hmm, why does my home thermostat read 666?

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    1. Re:get interactive by Xanlexian · · Score: 1

      Because I'd otherwise sweat and swelter to death in a neoprene suit.

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    2. Re:get interactive by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      • 1) find out which Comcast execs use their own service

      None of them do, of course. Why would they pay that much money for a crappy service?

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  17. Oblig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In Soviet Russia, cable watches you.

  18. Taking it into the 21st Century... by geekmux · · Score: 1

    "...Customers can watch live video of their homes on an Xfinity website or with an Apple Inc. iPad application.'"

    You misspelled Criminals.

  19. overages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you have exceed your plans "time at home" you are now being locked out side. if you wish to upgrade to the next plan you can call comcast costumer service.

  20. Wannabes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These guys really want to be the copz.

    jr

  21. dead man's switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always thought home security systems should have one of these, if a code isn't entered X amount of times in Y amount of days, it is assumed that something is wrong, and information gets sent out by the home owner.

  22. Oh yeah, "security" by The+O+Rly+Factor · · Score: 2

    Philadelphia Police: Sir, we caught this man trying to break into your house at approximately 1:30 this afternoon after receiving an urgent notification from Comcast.

    Homeowner: Who is he?

    Philadelphia Police: He claims he is from "Verizon" and that he was here to "install FiOS", whatever that means.

  23. Now they'll know.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now they'll know when to throw more advertising at you by determining your schedule. Perhaps they can find a way to "cap" the amount of door openings and window usages...or at least the alerts you receive so now you'll have to avoid opening your door too often or pay overage charges.

  24. Re:added equipment like needed low on Sensors / ke by hitmark · · Score: 1

    Only thing missing seems to be razor wire fencing and automated gun turrets...

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  25. comcast by JohnVanVliet · · Score: 1

    this better be SELinux compatible
    I would NEVER put the security of the house in the hands of Microsoft

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    1. Re:comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...I would NEVER put the security of the house in the hands of Microsoft

       
      That's because you're a tinfoil-hat-wearing know-it-all priss.
       
      Linux, by jeebus!

    2. Re:comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, this place would be better without AC posts. :-)

  26. No downside by straponego · · Score: 1

    Why wouldn't we give one of the least ethical companies in the world access to everything we do at home? They already inspect and record everything we do online.

    1. Re:No downside by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Because Larry Ellison wasn't available to personally menace that many people?

  27. Re:added equipment like needed low on Sensors / ke by Phyridean · · Score: 1

    Automated Gun Turrets would make me consider subscribing, making sure they were connected only to my LAN, and then unsubscribing.

  28. How hard is security to do? by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 1

    I was thinking of programming a system that links up to a modern computer and buying cheap webcams. Then you could monitor your house from a Flash Enabled Phone, and get alerts if motion sensors are triggered with the video feed. I was thinking with how cheap web cameras are now(practically free), all you're really paying for is cables and installation. You could probably wire a house for $500, and clear 300$ profit or more.

    Has anyone else considered this as a business?

  29. The sleaziest people in my apartment - Comcast. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously Comcast security?

    I had a ongoing problem with my Comcast service and the remedial degenerates they sent to repair the service were downright scary looking and would have otherwise NOT have been invited into my dwelling.

    I answered the door one day and immediately though "WTF.. did I order drugs?

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  30. My experience with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have the service. Allow me to enlighten you as to what it is ( and isn't ).

    First, you MUST have a router feeding the house network. You need an available eth connection as well for the alarm head unit. The unit is NOT static IP configured, it's dhcp so it will be begging the router for an IP address. Force a static on it from the router and it will be thrilled. Head unit is listening on port 80 so you need to forward the port through the firewall to allow net access. Yeah every scan on Earth will see it so I suspect your router logs are gonna jump an order of magnitude or so. Hitting the unit asks for the install code ( 16 digit ) but I didn't test it past that.

    The whole system is wireless so the main unit needs to be centralized if possible so the sensors can talk to it. The install tech has to add the sensors to the head unit and you don't get to play in the config once they're done. Preferred package is four door / window sensors and one motion sensor. Additional sensors are horrendously expensive ( $170 for a motion sensor ?! ) but the system is General Electric based so you may be able to buy your own ( Z-Wave compatible ) but they will have to configure them in the head unit. Head unit also has a battery backup with a cellular system in the event of a power failure or loss of cable signal. Head unit is broadcasting it's own SSID and appears to be running with at least WPA.

    They fail to mention on their site that the customer is required to obtain an Alarm Operators Permit from your local municipality. Not expensive ($25 first year, $15 renewal) but necessary as the fine for the police showing up on an alarm call if you don't have one is expensive.

    Email and text messages for damn near anything can be configured. System arm / disarm, tamper switches trigger, individual triggers for every sensor, etc. Make sure you have a decent messaging plan.

    Remote monitoring, arm / disarm and system / sensor history are available once you log in using your info. Same for the IPhone app.

    They need to add a swivel bracket to the motion sensors for better placement options IMO. Three year contract. $200 install and $39.95 month. Qualifies for insurance discount. IS a monitored service. Seems to perform fairly well. No real complaints to speak of so far.

    1. Re:My experience with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1st mistake ... port 80 ... clear text ... => FAIL
      Alarm Operators Permit ... ,eh? Wut?

    2. Re:My experience with it by kmoser · · Score: 1

      If an intruder wants to disable the system all they have to do is open the junction box outside and unplug the cable that feeds your house. Voila: you're off the net and they're free to break in.

    3. Re:My experience with it by mmalove · · Score: 1

      Actually... this would be totally worth the 40 bucks if the police get called on every time the internet service drops.

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    4. Re:My experience with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you forget the cellular backup?

    5. Re:My experience with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, no.

      The systems head unit has cellular backup built into it. In addition to a battery to run it. Cut the cable line and / or kill the power
      to the home and you'll still get the alarm once you activate a sensor.

    6. Re:My experience with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that the system also uses telephone landliness and the cell network, so unless they also cut your phone line and jam all wireless signals, the system will work.

      If you need greater protection that this you need a security company and a hardened system. For most consumers, the comcast offering is enough.

    7. Re:My experience with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And most security companies use phone lines. A hedge clippers will slice that in a heartbeat and leave your house vulnerable as well.

    8. Re:My experience with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you not read the part about the cellular back up in the head unit?

    9. Re:My experience with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If an intruder wants to disable the system all they have to do is open the junction box outside and unplug the cable that feeds your house. Voila: you're off the net and they're free to break in.

      As he said, it has built in cellular if the cable goes out. All standard alarm systems do now.

    10. Re:My experience with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe you missed this part, "Head unit also has a battery backup with a cellular system in the event of a power failure or loss of cable signal."

    11. Re:My experience with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If an intruder wants to disable the system all they have to do is open the junction box outside and unplug the cable that feeds your house. Voila: you're off the net and they're free to break in.

      Learn to read for comprehension.

      Did you miss the part where he said: "Head unit also has a battery backup with a cellular system in the event of a power failure or loss of cable signal."?

  31. It's about time by bhmit1 · · Score: 2

    Maybe now all the established security vendors will create a decent offering that works over IP, rather than plugging their old technology into a voip box. I wouldn't trust my home security to Comcast, but the established security vendors need to upgrade their products off of telephone modem technology badly.

    If you were on IP, a simple "ping" could be run periodically to make sure you haven't had your connection cut. And you can get more advanced, like viewing the status on a web page (we already have banking online, so this can be done right) or getting a feed of the audio and video during a break-in to give police a heads up if it's a likely false alarm or send pictures of the criminal so police know who to look for. The alerts would also be sent faster, and can be encrypted over IP, rather than waiting for the modem to dial out.

  32. Call me paranoid... by steppin_razor_LA · · Score: 2

    ... but the first I think of is the irony that Orwell had it wrong. The govt won't have to force people to install cameras into their homes, we will do it ourselves...

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    1. Re:Call me paranoid... by twocows · · Score: 2

      Huxley had it right, though.

    2. Re:Call me paranoid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this system or one like it from the big three will soon be required on all homes. If you refuse, they'll turn your home into a Mr. Donut.

  33. when I originally posted this to firehose... by vaporland · · Score: 1

    I asked the question: Will Comcast charge me extra when intruders hack their security and start monitoring my cameras 24/7, pushing me over my 2.5GB monthly data quota?

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  34. Who else?? by cheros · · Score: 1

    Who else .. .. gets to see this feed .. gets to know my entry and leaving times .. gets to enable and disable my alarm?

    I like the idea, but there is no chance in hell I'll ever allow anyone else to place a camera inside my home or be 100% in control over its defenses. Notifications, fine, outside cameras, maybe, but no internal feed is ever going to leave my place unless a member of the family permits it.

    Oh, and no alarm system of mine is ever going to be solely dependent on a single Internet provider - I have seen that mistake too often..

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    1. Re:Who else?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Who else .. .. gets to see this feed .. gets to know my entry and leaving times .. gets to enable and disable my alarm?

      If you can't trust Comcast, who can you trust? (evil laugh)...

  35. At times like these... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I am happy not to own anything valuable (well, maybe except my computer, but who's interested in stealing PC's anyway?).

  36. A better product is.. by onceuponatime · · Score: 2

    We will be releasing a new product in two months time that will allow you to monitor your home before they break. You receive SMSes with links to video trigger from sensors outside of your house and then you can set off flood lights, alarms, send SMSes, E-mails, gateway to other systems of your own etc etc. It encodes the video to WebM (I expect it's the first security product to do that) so you can save the events and all this is under your own control, not an external company. It's highly configurable and you can take input from and control devices connected via X10 or via a generic digital I/O board (Phidgets).

    http://www.hydracontrolfreak.com/

    Note, the website is in pre-release state as we haven't released the product yet. We expect it to be released in about 2 2/12 months.

    Cheers,
    Kim

    1. Re:A better product is.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to be able to answer my door in the U.S. via smartphone from a street-front cafe in Thailand.

    2. Re:A better product is.. by onceuponatime · · Score: 1

      I've heard about products that do that. Of course you can't let them in. Out product doesn't do that.

      Actually, you could with our one. You could let them in because you could control a solenoid with the generic output control (Phidget 8/8/8 board). However, you wouldn't be able to talk to them. If you don't mind strangers wandering around in your house then it can do it for you :-)

    3. Re:A better product is.. by FlxMatrix · · Score: 1

      Can you share more info about your solution? I checked the website but it is lacking info.
      I see you are running a SheevaPlug - Linux? And what is being used as a middleware? OSGi?

      Just curious on the implementation.

      Cheers,

    4. Re:A better product is.. by onceuponatime · · Score: 1

      It is a Sheevaplug under the covers, but it's not designed to be user customisable product as in the users can login and do things in the OS. It's not using OSGi. It's a standalone appliance (Black box). However, we have designed it to be very flexible. There are several different types of inputs that a user can provide to the box as events

              * X10 events from wireless PIRs
              * HTTP events as in a user can define button groups and button titles and then we provide a link that will provide the user with a page of buttons on the smart phone that send the events they have defined
            * I/O events from a phidgets 8/8/8 interface card, which can be used as physical button events or outputs from an existing alarm system can be fed here for example
          * Scheduled events. You can setup events that will fire regularly into the system, as in a calendar
        * Network camera input. This is continuously monitored and one of the other events can trigger capture of one or more cameras. The user can specify the capture to start in the past so you can see what happened before the event was triggered. For example, 5 seconds before the user triggers the PIR so that you can see the intruder traverse past the PIR.

      the device then provides flexible event processing where you can trigger many output events, along with a lot of qualifiers, such as time of day constraints, the presence of certain "state" (Which can also be added by the event processing engine) and finally it then triggers the output events, these include:

          * X10, i.e. switch on/off/dim appliances or trigger the X10 alarm module
          * I/O trigger on/off of a port on the phidget 8/8/8 or send a custom defined pulse train
          * Send an E-mail event. This contains the name of the event and links to any video that triggered by the event (Viewable as either mjpg or pseudo mjpg which is viewable on Android or Windows 7 phones)
      * Send an SMS event, same as an E-mail event, except via SMS
      * Sent a custom HTTP event. The user can setup key/value pairs of parameters and a target url and method. This provides a very easy to use gateway facility to your own application.
      * Trigger video capture of one or more video streams.

      The freaks can be linked together. For example, one freak could send an event to another freak across the net so that the remote freak can turn on a panic light for example. In addition to whatever other output events are triggered locally. They are also linked for video capture, so that one freak can trigger the video that is being captured on a remote freak and we provide a webpage that will provide you with a synchronised and merged view of the video that is captured across a specified "slice" of video cameras you have chosen across your collection of freaks. This is also good for a neighbourhood watch scenario, where you have a PIR sensor at your place, but your neighbour places the camera on their window sill where it can see you place. When someone enters your place, you can an SMS with "guest video" from your neighhour where his camera can clearly see the intruder enter your place. When you combined this with the video buffering you could see the person enter your place even if the sensor was not triggered till several seconds later.

      Once a capture period has been captured, the system encodes this into WebM video, which is great for remote viewing of large format video sections, saving events. The video that is captured is instantly playable even as it's still capturing, so you can view the intruder within seconds of the intruder triggering the sensor.

      A description just doesn't really do it jusfice, but we will be preparing some video of it's operation that we will put online when we are closer to releasing. That and additional documentation, examples of use etc. Right now we are working hard to try and get it in the shops so to speak within the next two months.

    5. Re:A better product is.. by FlxMatrix · · Score: 1

      Thanks Kim - seems quite a good concept - I can even see the possibilities of future expansion on other Home Automation areas besides security.

      As an OSGi / Smart Home / Home Automation developer I'm quite interest on the implementation details of these solutions, so thanks for taking the time replying.

      I'll keep an eye on your site for future updates.

    6. Re:A better product is.. by onceuponatime · · Score: 1

      Your welcome. We developed it initially to solve specific security problems. But it is indeed very generic and includes some simple to use but none the less quite flexible state control so as to keep it's potential applications flexible. We'll see what kind of things users are interested in.

      We will try and generate as much news as possible when we launch, so hopefully you will notice :-) As we will be amongst the very first consumer hardware products to support WebM this shouldn't be too much trouble.

      Cheers,
      Kim

  37. Homeseer.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy Homeseer and do this all yourself and make your own password.

    I'd be interested to see what the underlying technology is. If it is Zigbee I'd expect they will get load of interference problems. If it is Zwave I am loading up on Sigma Designs stock.

    1. Re:Homeseer.... by wpiman · · Score: 1

      It is Zwave compatible....

  38. Note to Self by logandr · · Score: 2

    Note to self: cut landline AND cable TV coax before breaking and entering

    1. Re:Note to Self by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cellular backup in the head unit won't care. It will still dial the monitoring station once you trip one of the sensors. Technically
      you COULD also bring a cell jammer, but if you're smart enough to bypass the alarm to begin with, then you're likely not breaking into
      the average home anyway unless you're a genius criminal who is setting their standards bar way too low :D

      Then again, the homes the intelligent criminals want to target aren't running home security by Comcast either. They'll have dogs and
      folks with guns walking around the property :D

  39. Privacy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Something tells me their cable boxes already spy on you so opting into the security package is just a way to inadvertently consent to everything else they are already doing by signing a confusing and lengthy EULA.

  40. This isn't new by WankerWeasel · · Score: 1

    Comcast has offered a home security product in a number of markets for a number of years. This isn't something new.

    1. Re:This isn't new by geoffrobinson · · Score: 1

      I believe it has only been in test markets up til now. This looks like they are beginning to roll this out.

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    2. Re:This isn't new by WankerWeasel · · Score: 1

      When I worked for Comcast (was working for Time Warner and then worked for Comcast for about 1 week after they took over the Minneapolis market) at least 3 years ago, they offered it in the Texas area and a number of other spots. Seems they have added some features but they did offer security system services in a small number of markets.

  41. creepy... by schlachter · · Score: 1

    don't like the idea of video feeds in my home that are centralized to any company. If I ever set up video feeds, I'd want to host them on my own server/router and login to view.

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  42. Is this a Slashdot article or an ad? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

    This looks like transcribed verbiage right off the sales brochure. At least in the past the Slashdot folk have rewritten the ad to be a bit more oblique. What's next? \/1agr/\ by Comcast ads in Slashdot?

    In any case, anyone who would trust their security with Comcast is a fool, just as is anyone who uses their internet service.

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