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15-Year-Old Sells Startup To ActiveState

jcasman writes "Some entrepreneurs wait a lifetime to experience the thrill of selling their startup companies. Daniil Kulchenko, a Seattle area high school student, accomplished that milestone at the age of 15. Kulchenko today announced that he's sold his startup, a cloud-based computing company known as Phenona, to Vancouver, B.C.-based ActiveState in a deal of undisclosed size."

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  1. ...and now ActiveState gets mass publicity by Gr33nJ3ll0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slashdot's work is done!

  2. Re:Undisclosed size? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nothing pisses off /.'ers more than seeing a kid [luckily] achieve what they never have.

  3. the story here.... by metalmaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the kid is 15. Another few years and this wouldnt have been newsworthy. It's good to see young people taking initiative though. Not only did he have the business sense to do something, but it was obviously something someone else thought could be worthwhile enough to purchase. kudos indeed. I certainly wasnt thinking like this 8 years ago.

    1. Re:the story here.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      the kid is 15. Another few years and this wouldnt have been newsworthy.

      Wrong. If it was an 18-year-old girl, we'd be proposing to her with haikus and fanfic letters,.

      (captcha: pervert)

    2. Re:the story here.... by timeOday · · Score: 2

      I'm impressed. At 15 I was mowing the neighbors' grass and haven't been truly self-employed since.

    3. Re:the story here.... by Seumas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't be too hard on yourself. Was your dad a robotics and AI researcher with all sorts of resources and connections to help you do something more than mow lawns? Probably not.

    4. Re:the story here.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No offense, but the only thing stopping you is the belief that you can accomplish your goal.

      Follow your dreams if you have them, don't wait, life it way too short.

      I didn't wait, because my family wasn't exactly rollin' in the cash and at 13 I mowed lawns, and at 14 I did the early am paper route thing and hated it, so I started 2 businesses while still in middle school (only to be shut down by my school administration through a ban on my products), and in high school I started another business that I ran for 7 years before moving on and starting another business, and another, and another.

      I never got rich, but I had a freedom that can't be had in the academic or business world, so I repeat as necessary, and life remains fresh and alive , no midlife crises necessary because I've already been living it for decades, which far more important than money.

      Of course, there is nothing wrong with starting a business and selling it for big bucks, I'd love that too, but it's a rare thing, so I don't spend my energy pursuing money, just the semi autonomy being an entrepreneur can bring one.

    5. Re:the story here.... by gregrah · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I truly do not understand where you are coming from when you feel the need to repeat this same comment in 3 different places. What is your beef with this kid? What is your point, exactly?

      As others have mentioned, you come across as being extremely jealous. And for an adult to make jealous comments about a teenager - well what can I say except that those comments reflect far worse on the adult, and are generally indicative of an adult who has had issues adapting to life as a grown-up.

      Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the impression that you are giving off.

    6. Re:the story here.... by slackbheep · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I was several times more impressed with William Kamkwamba.
      http://www.ted.com/talks/william_kamkwamba_on_building_a_windmill.html

    7. Re:the story here.... by iamhassi · · Score: 2

      admin a Linux box is easy, what he has done is not.

      The website gives it away:
      "I was working on a client project back in 2009, a Craigslist aggregator which I wrote in Catalyst, and spent a large portion of my vacation in Mexico trying to get it to work on the client's IIS server. It was a nightmare. At the time, I'd already heard of Heroku, a simple deployment solution for Ruby-based web apps, and I thought: why Ruby and not us? I spent weeks researching Heroku, and the work on Phenona had begun."

      Really? When he was 13 he was working on a Craigslist aggregator that he wrote in Catalyst and he spent a large portion of his Mexico vacation working on it?

      Does that sound realistic to anyone? Not to mention the website reads like it's done by a grad student with a English minor rather than a 15 yr old right out of Freshman English. I'd almost believe it if he went to private school but according to his website he attends Inglemoor High School, a public school.

      His father found a genius way to pay for his college or at least get him a great job someday: write a neat program, then convince struggling business to "buy" it for the publicity by claim 15 yr wrote the program. Now someone will hire him because he's some sort of programming genius.

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  4. Re:Heroku by rsborg · · Score: 4, Informative

    So its Heroku for perl devs?

    Apparently that's what it looks like... except it's a 15 year old who dun it. FTFA:

    Your app is launched into a securely partitioned environment on a cloud server. All CPAN modules required by your app are installed. MySQL and memcached are automatically set up, and connection information is exposed to you via environmental variables. In front of your app sits a Varnish caching server, quietly improving the performance of your app.

    More in the article, but that's already pretty amazing.

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  5. Re:Undisclosed size? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Born into being fed with silverspoon, using rich engineer Daddy's academic resources, name, and business connections is not at all impressive.

    Correction: it's not as impressive as it otherwise would be. If the dad inspired his kid that much then he is impressive too.

  6. Re:Undisclosed size? by deodiaus2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh, come on. Many of us have probably have had the same soft of connections he does and never managed to accomplish this.

  7. Re:Undisclosed size? by Seumas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I didn't need to read the article to assume that was the case. You hear a lot of stories every year about genius children who discover something fantastic or start a company or a major project that makes them wealthy and/or famous and their parents are almost exclusively professionals in the same field that their child is "excelling" in. The lesson being that it's not some independent kid coming up from scratch doing something amazing - it's almost always a kid (probably smart and ambitious, still) who had a parent get them into the stuff in the first place, then support them, guide them, advise them, help them make contacts, help them find resources, have their friends and colleagues chip in where needed.

    It's not to diminish the success, but to point out that the reason THIS kid did this and YOUR kid won't is that YOU probably don't have all the resources and connections to give your child from early on to guide them into this.

  8. Re:Undisclosed size? by Seumas · · Score: 2

    Who is more likely to get into a tech field early on, have the support and guidance from an adult, early on, and have the encouragement, connections, and resources so early on? The kid with the dad who is a robotics and AI scientist or the kid with the dad who works at a concessions stand at a ballpark?

  9. Re:Name things better by Seumas · · Score: 3, Funny

    It seems kind of obvious what DBIx::Class does.

  10. Re:Name things better by larry+bagina · · Score: 2

    What? No props to JizzMop, CumRag, and SpermBurp?!!?!?

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  11. Re:"Cloud-based" by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sounds like a deployment service. From their page:

    So what is Phenona?

    Imagine this. You've spent hours and hours coding the perfect Catalyst (or Dancer, or Mojolicious, or, hell, CGI) application. You're using DBIx::Class with a MySQL database to store user info, and memcached in front of it for performance.

    You now want it out there, for the world to see and use. Here's a deployment scenario for a good web application:

          1. Get a server. These days you might go for some slow shared hosting, or maybe a VPS, or perhaps EC2 or Rackspace.
          2. Install Perl and spend a few hours installing all the dependencies of your project. (Ever installed Catalyst before? It's not for the faint of heart.)
          3. Install and configure MySQL, set up users, permissions, databases.
          4. Install and configure memcached.
          5. Set up a backup, redundancy, and failover solution. What would happen if your server went down, data was lost? You'd need to set up more than one server, do failover between them, and do regular backups to protect valuable user data.
          6. Set up cron jobs and background worker processes to work on long-running jobs.
          7. Set up a caching server, such as Varnish or Squid, to improve performance of your app.
          8. Secure your server, open the necessary ports for outside access.
          9. Deploy and test your code.
        10. Manage system updates, app monitoring, and downtime yourself.

    Hours, days, even weeks of time. Potentially hundreds of dollars. Or you could type this:

    cpanm Phenona
    phenona create MyApp
    git push phenona master
    phenona deploy production

    Yes. Those four commands encompass every one of the bullet points I listed above. The final command inserts your app into the grid.

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  12. Re:Undisclosed size? by Capt.+Skinny · · Score: 2

    AC's point is about the foolish equation of "researcher at University of Washington" with "rich engineer, silver spoon and business connections". A university researcher is not necessarily an engineer, and both research and engineering positions are well within the bounds of middle class in the western world. The kid may well have advantages in the tech field over the concession-stand dad, but a silver spoon is not one of them.

  13. Re:Huh by capnkr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Doesn't seem like 'luck' had much to do with it, unless you are referring to the definition of luck which says "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity..."

    Would be it that *I* had been as knowledgeable and motivated at his age... :)

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  14. I suck by beckyshaw · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't even sell a piece of junk on Ebay

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  15. Good effort no matter what age by anchovy_chekov · · Score: 2

    This is kinda neat. I know it's a copy of what Heroku and co have already done, and I've no love of PERL, but give the guy some cred. 15 year old or no, if this all works as stated it's a nice piece of hackery.

  16. Re:Heroku by Cramer · · Score: 2

    Cloning a VM is amazing? The real magic(tm) is in creating the VM the first time. (something my coworkers learned recently when I made them build the windows vms for virtual center, domain controller, etc.)

    He appears to have written some scripts / programs to automate a highly complex process. System admins have been doing that for as long as computers have existed. He's managed to get someone to buy his creation -- for an undisclosed amount that isn't likely to be the billions the /. crowd is making it out to be -- and that ain't bad. Me? I tend to get paid for the shit before I write it. (but I'm an old fart... I don't write code for fun.)

  17. Re:Heroku by codepunk · · Score: 2

    " I made them build the windows vms"

    You heartless bastard!

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  18. Re:Undisclosed size? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    who cares, it's Perl.

    Fuck Perl in the ass hole with a big rubber dick then break it off when it's halfway inside. Enough about Perl.

    The important take-away from this story is that this businessdude is A) not female and B) not black. I don't have to RTFA to know that. Neither do you.

    Just keep tellin' yourself it's all a big coincidence you politically correct tool. Have fun with that!

    i can't tell if thats a sexist nigger joke or a lament about the way we treat women and "brown people" different in society

    they both work. it's like some kind of crazy quantum duality

  19. Re:Undisclosed size? by gregrah · · Score: 2

    Hey Daniil,

    Don't feel like you need to defend yourself against any of the trolling comments here (and in fact you're better off ignoring them). You're a talented young man - and anyone of any importance in the world is going to recognize that immediately. This guy is not important.

    Congrats on your success. If you care to share how much $$ you made on the sale, we would all be interested. :)

  20. Re:"Cloud-based" by Seumas · · Score: 2

    Perl remains extremely powerful and one of the most versatile languages, even today. That said, the heavily trafficked and fairly complex 15,000 lines of code service I wrote when I was a kid (well, before drinking age) from scratch in 1998-2000 that powered everything up until 2011 is probably not the choice I would make if I were doing it all over again, today. At least, not if I were still starting out as I mostly was, back then. I made the mistake of choosing it as my first real language that I really did anything of significance with. Bad move for a language that makes it so easy to blow your own foot off with (and yet incredibly robust and flexible if you're experienced and it's just another tool you're adding to your belt). Over those many years, I considered another language a few times, but it always came down to not finding any other community that was as large and active as Perl's nor with the extensive public library of code to solve so many problems.

    What surprises me is that someone half my age would have such an interest in Perl, in 2011. It's not sexy and python and ruby and everything else is being pushed non-stop, these days. Hell, Haskell seems more popular if you just go by the number of stories about it on tech news aggregators.

    As to this kid "identifying fools and parting them from their money" . . . I don't get where you're coming from. He sold to ActiveState. It sounds more like he identified a possible demand to fulfill for people who use Perl. ActiveState is a Perl shop and their customers are primarily Perl people. It doesn't sound like he suckered anyone, but rather found a niche and filled it. In fact, it's one of the most suggested startup strategies. He didn't invent the wheel, but found a niche where he could apply a slightly modified wheel for a different audience. And it paid off.

  21. Re:Undisclosed size? by TheLink · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ignore the haters. They're jealous and/or stupid.

    I'm not surprised that a smart kid can do what you do especially now given the vast resources available on the Internet. There's just so much a person can learn online nowadays, the issue is more of what you want to learn and spend your time on.

    When you get older you might find you have less energy and time to spend on your interests, and stuff might just not feel as interesting and exciting- you might get a bit jaded. The first time you eat ice cream is often much better than the 100th time, even though the ice cream has not changed.

    So before that happens, have fun, stay motivated, keep doing stuff and keep finding cool stuff to do! And you might find you never get old, just older ;).

    p.s. try not to spend too much time on Slashdot - it can be a big time-sink...

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  22. Re:Undisclosed size? by goarilla · · Score: 2

    Congrats on your success. If you care to share how much $$ you made on the sale, we would all be interested. :)

    No, No never do that. Some of us are still bitter (old/older) IT-janitors.
    If you think this is turning way too hateful now just wait and see then.