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IBM Turns 100

adeelarshad82 writes "On this day in 1911, IBM started as the Computing-Tabulating-Recording Company (C-T-R). It wasn't until 1924 that the company changed their name to IBM. Needless to say that a 100-year milestone is quite the feat. While some of us might know IBM for its recent "Jeopardy"-playing Watson computer, a look back shows that IBM has a long history of innovation, from cheese slicers (yes, really) and the tech behind Social Security to the UPC bar code and the floppy disk. One of the most notable leaps of faith IBM took was in 1964 with the introduction of System/360, a family of computers that started the era of computer compatibility. To date the company has invested nearly $30 billion in technology."

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  1. Zero to Godwin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Let's not forget helping the Nazi's round up undesirables!

    1. Re:Zero to Godwin by creat3d · · Score: 2

      I'd mod you up if I could, this should've been in TFA.

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    2. Re:Zero to Godwin by MemoryDragon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually they sold the machines which helped to track the jews their death numbers etc.. the ovens probably were built by Krupp.
      The gas btw. was manufactured by IG Farben.
      All of these companies still exist, although IG Farben now has a different name.

  2. Happy Birthday IBM by xednieht · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A fantastic achievement, Here's to the next 100 years.

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    1. Re:Happy Birthday IBM by Penguinisto · · Score: 3

      I wonder if they'll make it another 100 years?

      I mean, they got this far by spotting tech trends and successfully parlaying them into products. They don't seem to be doing much of that anymore.

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    2. Re:Happy Birthday IBM by jonwil · · Score: 2

      Its not just IBM, far too many companies have abandoned everything except short-term shareholder gains.

      I think the root cause of this (and other problems plaguing the western world and its companies) comes from the changes in the mid-late 20th century where the typical shareholder mix of public companies changed away from businessmen and rich people who cared about the companies they bought to investment funds, managed funds, brokerages, day traders and others who see shares as a short term investment to be bought and sold on a daily basis and the companies they are buying and selling as nothing more than names on a computer screen.

    3. Re:Happy Birthday IBM by AlecC · · Score: 2

      IBM has converted itself from a company based on selling boxes, and providing services as a side effect, to a company selling services who may sell you some boxes to run the services. That means that IBM's innovations will no longer (or at least far less) be in the field of hardware and software, which is of interest to Slashdot readers, and much more in the field of packaging and delivering services. It doesn't mean they have stopped innovating at all, it means that they are innovating in an area that is much less visible and interesting to Slashdot.

      Of course, the services industry, being much softer, is much much more difficult to get a lock-in. It took twenty years for the world to break the lock-in that IBM had with its mainframe business. But the world did it, eventually, and it nearly killed IBM. Whereas it would only take three or four years of not having their eye on the ball for other companies to steal IBM's services business,

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    4. Re:Happy Birthday IBM by hedwards · · Score: 2

      The federal government in the US was a large part of the problem. If they graduated the capital gains tax phase in such that you needed to hold stocks for a couple years to get the full benefit of the capital gains rate, increased the short term holding substantially and limited people to only having one round trip trade per day, a lot of these problems would go away.

      Enron, as big a mess as that was, resulted in far more people making money than losing money, due to the way in which is collapsed. A relatively small number of people were left holding the bag as everybody made a run for the door.

    5. Re:Happy Birthday IBM by hoytak · · Score: 2

      I'd disagree, It seems there's a steady stream of articles in IEEE or other magazines about cool research that IBM is doing (e.g. http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-06-ibm-graphene-based-circuit.html). I think the issue is that the current problems driving innovation in companies as big as IBM are much more technical and thus more difficult to explain to a general audience, except as "20% faster" or other forgettable phrases. I suspect there's a lot of cool stuff going on.

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    6. Re:Happy Birthday IBM by careysub · · Score: 2

      A fantastic achievement, Here's to the next 100 years.

      I tend to think of IBM as being older than 100 years because the punch-card tabulating equipment, invented by Herman Hollerith, that was the mainstay of its dates to 1889, and I have viewed his Tabulating Machine Company (formed in 1896) as the true origin of the business that is IBM today. Anyone who remembers the days of punch cards remembers those Hollerith codes -- a coding scheme in use for nearly a century. It has always seemed to me the "senior member" of the four-way merger, the only one that was truly essential.

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    7. Re:Happy Birthday IBM by careysub · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed. IBM hasn't been doing much innovation over the past 10 years

      It is one of the few American businesses today that still vigorously conducts basic research. It is also constantly churning out new technological innovations that invigorate the entire field of computing (copper-on-silicon, silicon-on-insulator, etc.).

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    8. Re:Happy Birthday IBM by careysub · · Score: 2

      . That means that IBM's innovations will no longer (or at least far less) be in the field of hardware and software...

      IBM is still a world-leader in solid-state research, and develops and releases fundamental hardware advances on a regular basis. Its software innovation includes the remarkable AI demonstration of Watson with Jeopardy this year.

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    9. Re:Happy Birthday IBM by NoOneInParticular · · Score: 2
      Yes, that's the theory. The practice turned out to be that once the banks lost an incredible amount of money in reckless ponzi schemes, they blackmailed the world into submission by stopping doing exactly what you deem to be their primary function: give loans to businesses and individuals. At that point, the government needed to bail them out as, like a petulant child, they were pulling the rug underneath the entire economy. And even now, even after the bail out, and even after the ponzi schemes have been started up again, the bonus train is running again, they still refuse to loan out the money. It's more profitable to borrow money at ridicolously low interest rates from the government, and then lending it back to the government in the form of T-bonds.

      The Glass-Steagull act was there for a reason. It split the buccaneers of high finance from the low margin, risk averse retail bankers. Now the pirates reign the bureaucrats. Small banks are dead, killed by the pirates. The pirates are now funded by the tax payer. Be very afraid.

  3. Other uses IBM found for its technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Re:Other uses IBM found for its technology by halivar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hitler used IBM punchcard systems purchased in the 30's to facilitate the Holocaust. Of course, if IBM hadn't sold them the punchcard machines, the Holocaust would never have happened.

      Next up, we'll tackle Boeing's complicity in 9/11.

    2. Re:Other uses IBM found for its technology by Hyppy · · Score: 2

      You must have missed the part where IBM's wholly owned subsidiaries in Germany and Poland operated closely with the Nazi regime to design, create, and maintain the various census and camp-tracking systems.

    3. Re:Other uses IBM found for its technology by halivar · · Score: 4, Informative

      In 1933. And the Hollerith machines were not "designed" in Germany. In fact, we'd been using such machines since 1890 for OUR census. IBM's entire revenue revolved around selling tabulating machines.

      Also, Hollerith machines were not designed for "camp-tracking." Census machines were re-purposed for that task.

    4. Re:Other uses IBM found for its technology by Darth_brooks · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You must have missed the part where the Nazi regime decided to stuff people they didn't like into camps while starving them, beating them, working them to the bone, then executing them.

      Personally, I believe if you're going to hold IBM (or Ford or Bayer or any other trendy 'you helped the holocaust' company) responsible, then you should also hold trees responsible. Trees provided the wood that built the guard towers, that held the barbed wire fences in place, and built the barracks. Bricks, fire, lead, and rope should also be investigated.

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    5. Re:Other uses IBM found for its technology by Himring · · Score: 2

      Godwin's! No Quirk's Exception!

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    6. Re:Other uses IBM found for its technology by mcmonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Computers in the 1930s weren't the general purpose machines we have today. You didn't just buy a computer, bring it home, and plug it in. There was no off-the-shelf software. Computers came with a team of IBM engineers in white lab coats.

      If Boeing's engineers had been in the cockpit on 9/11 and had been paid to fly in to buildings, then Boeing would be as complicit in 9/11 as IBM is in the Holocaust.

      And no one is saying it would not have happened without IBM. But that does not diminish IBM's role.

    7. Re:Other uses IBM found for its technology by guruevi · · Score: 5, Informative

      You also must have missed the first few years of the World War where the US knew about the atrocities but decided to do nothing about it or Ford-Werke, the division of Ford in Germany or the 'neutral' Swiss supplying weapons and bankrolling the operations with Jewish deposits.

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    8. Re:Other uses IBM found for its technology by halivar · · Score: 2

      Ford's a different story from the others. Henry Ford was known as a Nazi sympathizer and anti-semite who received senior Nazi officials to his home.

    9. Re:Other uses IBM found for its technology by dcollins · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, that's actually the thesis of that (national award-winning) book. "[W]ithout IBM's machinery, continuing upkeep and service, as well as the supply of punch cards, whether located on-site or off-site, Hitler's camps could have never managed the numbers they did." (p. 352) Germany had plans for a long-delayed census of ethnicity, which was not feasible until IBM came to the rescue in 1933, which was followed soon afterward by laws barring Jews from citizenship or marrying Aryans. Early predictions of ~500K Jews in Germany were revised upwards, identifying 2M afterwards.

      "This activity was not only countenanced by Thomas Watson and IBM in America, Black argues, but was actively encouraged and financially supported, with Watson himself traveling to Germany in October 1933 and the company ramping up its investment in its German subsidiary from 400,000 to 7,000,000 reichsmarks — about $1 million.[17] This injection of American capital allowed Dehomag to purchase land in Berlin and to construct IBM's first factory in Germany, Black charges, thereby "tooling up for what it correctly saw as a massive financial relationship with the Hitler regime."[17]" (from Wikipedia, etc.)

      More generally, if we're going to gush about IBM's history, intellectual honesty demands that we include the well-known black marks, too.

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    10. Re:Other uses IBM found for its technology by halivar · · Score: 2

      You leaving out relevant details. Did Watson travel to Nazi Germany to push for the purchase of Hollerith machine for the the oppression and eventual genocide of minorities?

      Or did Watson travel to Nazi Germany to push for the purchase of Hollerith machines for the purposes of Germany's seemingly innocent upcoming general census (remember that this is 5 years before Kristallnacht, and 3 years before Berlin would host a very-much-not-boycotted Olympics)?

      Other pertinent facts: Dehomag's upper management was in no way loyal to IBM, and was considering divestiture at the moment war broke out. At issue was Thomas's insult to the Third Reich by returning a commerce award it had given him.

  4. The things IBM made... by wandazulu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I worked for a large organization in Chicago that had the "gold" IBM support contract back in the early 90s; they would show up at 2 am Sunday morning to replace a keyboard if necessary. Our main contact was a guy who had been with the company for 30+ years and he would mention some of the things he'd had to fix, in addition to the standard computer stuff: scales for weighing meat in the meat packing district and the thing that was most surprising: the clock on the Wrigley Building. Apparently IBM didn't actually out-and-out make the clock mechanism but had bought some company that had and they inherited the support contract. He mentioned having to get some gears specially made when it broke down.

    The thing I thought was so ahead of its time was the wireless device he had that was essentially a large, two-line blackberry that he'd carry on his shoulder with a strap; it would beep and he'd flip the cover open, read the message, then type some sort of response. I remember he'd use it to order parts and within an hour(!) another guy would show up with them, a new ps/2 mouse, a monitor, or a reel-to-reel tape drive for the as/400. I was surprised IBM never thought to market that device; much like Apple is reluctant to talk about their ipod touch-based POS terminals, he wasn't too keen about showing it off or even talking about it.

    1. Re:The things IBM made... by silas_moeckel · · Score: 2

      Having had one of those devices back in the early 90's it was just a 2 way pager, They never got really popular, the prices made early text messages seem cheap, water cooler talk placed it at 25 cents for each outbound message but no idea what they really cost. You can still get the modern versions have a client that thinks pagers make more sense for on-call so they are still passing around a clamshell 2 way pager. They looked at me funny when I told them the monitoring software could take care of dispatching based on a schedule and send text messages/emails to peoples phones.

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    2. Re:The things IBM made... by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      much like Apple is reluctant to talk about their ipod touch-based POS terminals

      Supposedly Apple is doing very quiet testing with third parties for that system (Old Navy/Gap is apparently testing them), which Apple calls EasyPay. It's quite sketchy, but it appears Apple has been inundated with requests for more information about them so they could be deployed elsewhere.

  5. Re:Outsourced by dingen · · Score: 4, Funny

    What do they even make anymore?

    About a $100 billion a year.

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  6. Re:Only 30 billion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    From TFA:
    The company invested $5 billion in [system/360], about $30 billion today, but the gamble paid off.

    Summary is wrong.

  7. I'll wager $723.42 that IBM goes another 100 years by filesiteguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is amazing to me that - back when I graduated university in '92 - people were foretelling the death knoll for IBM. Next thing I know, I'm working on programming ASP.NET using JCL on zSeries machines fifteen years later.

    Now, we're using Rational and Eclipse to manage Websphere projects.

    Go figure.

  8. Re:I'll wager $723.42 that IBM goes another 100 ye by tnk1 · · Score: 2

    The colossal size and huge brand reputation of IBM is enough to keep a company going for a very long time. Long enough, in fact, to change its business model significantly before having to actually face real danger of going under.

    We see companies disappearing all the time, but a lot of the time, it's actually due to a merger or acquisition. As long as you can avoid being acquired and having your assets sold at a fire sale by some short term raider or a competitor, businesses have a good chance of weathering bad times if their long term fundamentals are good. Additionally, having sound business practices can also provide you the money and tools to resist being bought out by people who are not in it for the long term.

    Of course, today we are used to companies that are built on vapor and return to vapor soon after. Those are basically money pinatas for Wall Street types.

  9. Re:I'll wager $723.42 that IBM goes another 100 ye by Artifakt · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's easy to get confused when it's all three letter acronyms: IBM death knell - JFK death knoll (yes I went there) - D&D death gnoll, it just goes on and on and on.

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  10. Re:30 Billion on Research? by HeckRuler · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except that the $30 billion is just what they invested in researching and developing the system/360. Summary is wrong.
    Also, most of the $700 Billion of that bailout were loans that have been paid back. There's still a ludicrous about of wasted money, like the $200 million that a bankers wife took, and then deposited in a bank, and reaped the interest! But in general, it was a short term loan to keep the economy moving. And it worked. Get over it.

  11. Re:Influence by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 2

    Possibly Bell Labs (transistors, lasers, sound movies,...), including numerous Nobel prizes in physics.

  12. Re:IBM = Innovator? Not in my lifetime. by bws111 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You seem to be confusing 'hype' with 'innovation' if you think it was led by Microsoft and Apple. There is a reason that there were basically 2 PC architectures - Apple, and (wait for it) 'IBM PC Compatible'. One of those completely swamped the other.

    You might want to check out whose systems are behind almost any financial transaction you process. At the other end of the scale, you might want to check out whose processors are in every XBox/360, PS/3, and Wii.

    Maybe you have a GPS - want to take a guess on whose semiconductor (SiGe) technology is in there?

  13. you missed the other part by decora · · Score: 3, Informative

    where IBM kept in contact with its Switzerland headquarters, was in trouble several times with the government for dealing with 'blacklisted' countries, the strings it pulled to get around those limitations, and one of whose officials was denied entry into the US after the war.

    and then there are the ways that the subsidiaries, after the war, were brought back into the fold of IBM, along with all the profits they had reaped from their wartime experiences, which were meticulously recorded.

    1. Re:you missed the other part by JBMcB · · Score: 3, Insightful

      and then there are the ways that the subsidiaries, after the war, were brought back into the fold of IBM, along with all the profits they had reaped from their wartime experiences, which were meticulously recorded

      You're right - IBM should have forced those subsidiaries out of business for their complicity in the German war machine. In fact, all companies in Germany that helped out the Nazi regime should have been closed down. All those horrible people should have been forced into bread lines for their crimes.

      I mean, that's basically what they did after WWI, and it seemed to work out pretty well.

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  14. please i invite you to read Mr Black's book by decora · · Score: 2

    it is not propaganda. almost every line in the entire book is well cited and documented.

    we are not talking about Ford here. a truck can be used for anything.

    the punch card systems had to be specifically designed, and then an IBM technician had to specifically go and maintain them, they were massively maintenance-intensive pieces of equipment. and punch cards were at the center of a lot of SS operations, including the holocaust (there were machines in the death camps), but also stuff like the Night and Fog decree (there was a hole punch coding for non-existant prisoner or something like that).

    Also please remember the first concentration camp was built in 1934, at Dachau. IBM did not stop dealing with Dehomag right up until the US got into the war. It also dealt with subsidiaries in the Netherlands, Hungary, and several other Nazi occupied countries, sometimes surreptitiously through its headquarters in Switzerland.

    in France, there a guy, Renee Carmille, who sabotaged the punchcard system, thus saving tens of thousands of Jews from certain death.

    we are talking about misconduct, during the war, on a large scale.

    All IBM has to do to clear this up is to open it's archives, like every other company has done.

    IBM refused to do this.

  15. they have tried to cover it up by decora · · Score: 2

    that is IBM's main problem. Companies like Ford and IG Farben have opened archives and they have even participated in restitution programs.

    IBM has not.

  16. Pretty impressive all things considered! by ErichTheRed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So far, the comments are the predictable ones I'd expect -- the recent love of offshoring, sell-off of products, etc. But it's pretty amazing to see what they did after almost dying in the late 80s after they missed the client/server and PC boat. I don't agree with a lot of their short sighted moves, but changing from a hardware to a consulting company without people realizing it is an interesting feat.

    Stories I've been told describe the IBM prior to this period as a pretty amazing place to work in terms of benefits and the tech you were able to work on. Don't forget that all of that was possible because back in the day, margins on hardware were orders of magnitude higher than they were now. Plus, IBM had a total lock on the mainframe market (still does pretty much, but less work needs to be done in this space now.) When they could get a much higher margin for selling boxes, they could lavish R&D money on the people who designed those boxes, training and salaries on the people who supported them, AND still have plenty left over for the execs and shareholders. You know, the "golden age of computing".... Now, most hardware is in the single-digit percent margin category (except for Apple stuff) and there's no money to be made in it. "Consulting" and managed services will bring in millions more than a hardware purchase; they can throw half the population of India at a customer and still make billions even if it takes longer to get results...which is where we US techies are stuck right now. In particular, the stories of older IBM techies being told to move to India or Brazil or leave paint a pretty sad state of affairs. (Side note, this trend will never reverse until we can kick everyone's hyperfocus on the stock market and corporate earnings. No public company is able to do anything that isn't guaranteed to instantly pay off anymore.)

    That said, the hardware they do still make (or at least OEM) is pretty good. And, if you're willing to pay the premium for this gear, System x and BladeCenter support is still done in the US. Documentation is horrible because of the huge decentralized nature of the company, but I've been able to call these guys up and get an answer in 5 minutes. Still, it's kind of ironic that IBM hires teams of customers to come in and basically rewrite the documentation for some of their products (see Redbooks.)

    Also, don't forget that IBM is one of the only companies big enough to put serious money into research anymore. In my mind, that's really important. Where are all the CS, physics and EE Ph. D's going to work now that Bell Labs is gone and HP only does product research?

  17. Re:IBM = Innovator? Not in my lifetime. by Relayman · · Score: 2

    Of course, there for a while, Apple was running on the same Power PC architecture as IBM was using for midrange servers. I believe my Centris 610 has an IBM processor in it.

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  18. Re:IBM = Innovator? Not in my lifetime. by ediron2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'There is a reason...' is something of a historical mess of a sentence. At the release of 8088-based IBM computers, one could still buy Apples (6502, not macs), trs-80's, commodore systems, atari, several 8080 and z80 systems/OS's (mostly CP/M), international alternatives (Acorns, Sinclairs), and niche business systems (wasn't OS-9 out by this time?). Apologies to fellow oldsters for not digging up a comprehensive list or missing your pet system -- many more existed when the IBM PC was released.

    Skip ahead a few years, and there were newer commodores, apples, ataris, other brands and various Radio Shack schlockery. There'd also been all sorts of changes on OS's, all sorts of changes under the hood. By then, there was a burgeoning PC-compatible market... and it was beginning to be clear that 'PC-compatible' was going to dominate the future. But the category didn't exist initially, and pretending that it was ever an apple/ibm/microsoft triumvirate is just silly.

    Having said that, around this time (1977-1985) nobody seriously considered IBM innovative. Their dominant strength was in delivering stodgy b-side computational function that companies could rationalize buying. Any innovation seen pc-side sprang to life as a 3rd-party product. After a few years, IBM might deign to make their own version.

    During their existence, Apple deservedly gets credit for innovation, even if part of their genius has been recognizing underappreciated good ideas and pushing them (xerox parc, etc.).

    Through all of this, many other companies should get credit for innovation in networks, printing, software (visicalc, sidekick, turbo * compilers), modems, displays, input, storage, etc.